List Mgmt. The Official Cam McCarthy Superultramega Thread - Deal done!

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I know that this isn't awfully chill of me to say, but I want to spin-kick General Giant in the neck/face.

He's a shit stirring tool. Has absolutely no idea except he knows he hates Freo.

Ignore it. 10 year old mentality at best. Hardly worth your efforts and in all probability if you met the fool, you'd likely just pity him.

It doesn't speak highly of anybody when they behave the way he does, so I'd say he has bigger problems than you do
 

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He's a shit stirring tool. Has absolutely no idea except he knows he hates Freo.

Ignore it. 10 year old mentality at best. Hardly worth your efforts and in all probability if you met the fool, you'd likely just pity him.

It doesn't speak highly of anybody when they behave the way he does, so I'd say he has bigger problems than you do
Maybe he is Kevin Sheedy.
 
I'm at the point where I don't even care if he goes to Freo. It's obviously more than homesickness so I just hope he gets everything sorted and gets healthy again. (Obv don't want him going to west coast though)

I'm amazed how many people are blaming this on Freo - when we have nothing to do with it at all. The statements coming out of GWS are weird and almost hurtful. And given how hard everything was pushed during trade period - how could they not have seen something like this coming. Sounds like it's been a few days coming too. They have a video up on their website from team photo day and it looks like Cam's not in it.
 
He's a shit stirring tool. Has absolutely no idea except he knows he hates Freo.

Ignore it. 10 year old mentality at best. Hardly worth your efforts and in all probability if you met the fool, you'd likely just pity him.

It doesn't speak highly of anybody when they behave the way he does, so I'd say he has bigger problems than you do
Yep...genital giant is all class...nearly got sucked into a slinging match with him but left him to it. I hope his proped up club slowly fizzles away like a disprin in a cup of urine.
 
Thread on the main board about Cams personal problems is disgraceful, I suppose with a big member base like Bigfooty the ratio of faarkwits is going to be high.
 
Awful lot of comments around from people that almost certainly don't know the reasons behind it all.

I've got a feeling we might have dodged a bullet.

I wasnt too keen on getting Mitch Clark in 2011 as pick 16 should of been enough to get him. Brisbane got greedy as they demanded picks 16 and 20. I am probably alone on this, I don't want McCarthy if GWS will pull our tails and try and screw freo over.
 
I wasnt too keen on getting Mitch Clark in 2011 as pick 16 should of been enough to get him. Brisbane got greedy as they demanded picks 16 and 20. I am probably alone on this, I don't want McCarthy if GWS will pull our tails and try and screw freo over.

Yep Mitch Clark has twice gotten to where he wanted and it didn't help the underlying issue, the poor kid is suffering and changing jobs/locations won't magically fix it.

I doubt GWS thought it was this bad, no way would they have turned down 2 1st rounders or whatever it was if they thought he wouldn't rock up.
 

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When it comes down to it, he is just a kid and some kids can't handle the pressure of AFL, no matter how talented he is. Maybe a period at home surrounded by family and friends will give him some perspective and space to decide what he wants to do with his life. He might decide to walk away from football who knows.....
 
When it comes down to it, he is just a kid and some kids can't handle the pressure of AFL, no matter how talented he is. Maybe a period at home surrounded by family and friends will give him some perspective and space to decide what he wants to do with his life. He might decide to walk away from football who knows.....
Welcome to Big Footy as I see you have just joined. Great commonsense post. Well Done. :thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:
 
I wasnt too keen on getting Mitch Clark in 2011 as pick 16 should of been enough to get him. Brisbane got greedy as they demanded picks 16 and 20. I am probably alone on this, I don't want McCarthy if GWS will pull our tails and try and screw freo over.
His trade value has declined sharply. The value of his potential contract may also be adjusted due to his circumstances. Their are questions about his willingness to train. The rumours of 2 first round picks was pretty reasonable, but it was declined.
 
For what it is worth we offered more than two late first round picks for McCarthy. Lloyd was interviewed after the draft and he said what we offered to GWS was the equivalent in academy points of pick 3 to 4 for McCarthy, but no listed player.. In the lead up to trade week it was reported that our first pick and a future pick was actually a top five pick in trade currency for an academy player bid. For us to offer more than the two first round picks after downgrading the 2015 first pick with the Bennell trade we would have to offered something like our first three picks in 2015 and a future first rounder. What GWS would have received if they had agreed to the trade would have been the ability to land Hopper while keeping their initial first pick. GWS would also have the currency of either our second or third pick to use on other academy players. Keeping their first pick and change in effect is greater than was most on the main boards seem to think in terms of trade currency offered.

That said I don't get the hate on our board for GWS refusing the bid. Very few talented young key position players get traded with two years of their contract to run. Also, Waterhouse, Jeff White and even Pav are players who in our history are rumoured to have asked for a trade during a contract and told they wouldn't be traded.
 
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He's a great prospect but he wasn't worth much more than what we offered (next years first and 22 this year), I'd say he would be worth about pick 7-9 by itself. The main board cretins are saying we should give Weller plus the two picks - yet the next time here is a Ross Lyon main board thread im sure they'll say he doesn't rate any of our young kids.

Yes we need a KPF, but this is Cam McCarthy not Jeremy Cameron or Hogan. He was the 2nd or 3rd choice at GWS, yes he showed a bit but he was also playing NEAFL later in the year.

I will lay some blame at our footy department IF we weren't into his ear the minute he was drafted. But I assume Colin Young encouraged him to re-sign until 2017.

Our club is well run now, it's not a case of finding a prospective recruit than selling the farm to get him like we did for a road, Tarrant, Josh Carr & Headland.

And finally if all the talk is true regarding his mental health is legit than we have dodged a problem (hope he gets well) but GWS will be worse off, if a 2nd player leaves due to mental health it will reflect poorly on them.
 
For what it is worth we offered more than two late first round picks for McCarthy. Lloyd was interviewed after the draft and he said what we offered to GWS was the equivalent in academy points of pick 3 to 4 for McCarthy, but no listed player.. In the lead up to trade week it was reported that our first pick and a future pick was actually a top five pick in trade currency for an academy player bid. For us to offer more than the two first round picks after downgrading the 2015 first pick with the Bennell trade we would have to offered something like our first three picks in 2015 and a future first rounder. What GWS would have received if they had agreed to the trade would have been the ability to land Hopper while keeping their initial first pick. GWS would also have the currency of either our second or third pick to use on other academy players. Keeping their first pick and change in effect is greater than was most on the main boards seem to think in terms of trade currency offered.

That said I don't get the hate on our board for GWS refusing the bid. Very few talented young key position players get traded with two years of their contract to run. Also, Waterhouse, Jeff White and even Pav are players who in our history are rumoured to have asked for a trade during a contract and told they wouldn't be traded.
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He's a great prospect but he wasn't worth much more than what we offered (next years first and 22 this year), I'd say he would be worth about pick 7-9 by itself. The main board cretins are saying we should give Weller plus the two picks - yet the next time here is a Ross Lyon main board thread im sure they'll say he doesn't rate any of our young kids.

Yes we need a KPF, but this is Cam McCarthy not Jeremy Cameron or Hogan. He was the 2nd or 3rd choice at GWS, yes he showed a bit but he was also playing NEAFL later in the year.

I will lay some blame at our footy department IF we weren't into his ear the minute he was drafted. But I assume Colin Young encouraged him to re-sign until 2017.

Our club is well run now, it's not a case of finding a prospective recruit than selling the farm to get him like we did for a road, Tarrant, Josh Carr & Headland.

And finally if all the talk is true regarding his mental health is legit than we have dodged a problem (hope he gets well) but GWS will be worse off, if a 2nd player leaves due to mental health it will reflect poorly on them.

Two excellent post that say it all and what's it about.
 
GWS done ****ed up.

McCarthy doesn't have any issues (comes from about eight blokes who all play AFL/WAFL) but just hates the place.

Welcome to Fremantle, 2017.
 
lol, the main board McCarthy thread is like a who's who of the Big Footy Freo trolls.
Really can't see how so many people are putting the blame on Freo. Sure it's not a great situation for GWS, they can't blame Freo. It's like you guys caused the mental illness somehow and are now trying to cash in on it.

BF's finest.
 
GWS done stuffed up.

McCarthy doesn't have any issues (comes from about eight blokes who all play AFL/WAFL) but just hates the place.

Welcome to Fremantle, 2017.

Hey SA - can you dig a little to substantiate the rumors around the reported weight loss ?? I'd be keen to know if this is hogwash or not...
 
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