List Mgmt. The Official Cam McCarthy Superultramega Thread - Deal done!

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For some reason, I have no idea why but Port are my most hated, followed by Richmond then West Coast.

Hawthorn are catching the eagles for me.

No one will ever overtake them though. Hating the eagles is our birthright, if the footy gods didn't want us to hate them they wouldn't have made their fans so annoying.
 

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Guys if you don't mind me interjecting, there are a few points I'd like to make.

Firstly, what is with the ridiculous amount of hate towards West Coast? Look I understand there's a bitter rivalry between the clubs, and that's all well and good, banter is always appreciated and you're allowed to dislike particular teams and supporters, but honestly the magnitude is beyond ridiculous. A lot of you are fine but some of you just seem so one-eyed and biased that everything West Coast does is designed to put Freo down and it's just not true.

Secondly, in terms of the situation with McCarthy, we have players like Josh Kennedy and Mark LeCras who are still performing well, but age will catch up with them, and McCarthy at the very least may ease some of the pressure in that area. We're not heavily looking into him, but it'd be silly not to show some interest in a talented player that wants to come home. Honestly the fact that some of you think that WC are showing interest purely to make you pay more is a stretch and it's not like you guys wouldn't do the same in our position anyway.

Lastly, in terms of Jetta, Wellingham, Hill and Cripps. I completely agree that so far, Jetta has been a dud. However, at his best he certainly offers the club something unique, and in the long term Lycett is a much better backup ruckman for Naitanui so losing Sinclair hasn't really been a big deal.
I also agree that on the surface, paying pick 18 for Wellingham was way overs, but considering the lack of talent in that draft, it actually wasn't a big loss. His first two years were horrendous due to form and injury, but since last year, he's played an instrumental role in our backline in combination with Sheppard, both organising the defensive structures, locking down on players well above his weight category, and providing run & carry and great disposal from the backline. Your comments on Hill being a seagull, while not entirely true are somewhat correct. He's very outside and I'd certainly take Sonny Walters over him every day of the week, but he still provides a lot in the forward line, and kicking 40 goals in 22 games is a pretty solid effort. You'd take that from a small/medium forward. Finally on Cripps, he's not a seagull by any means, and while not being an overly spectacular contributor, is enormous in his physical pressure and tackling in the forward line, and still pops up for a goal or two every game, similar to Mayne when he actually scored goals regularly.

I understand you don't have to agree with any of those points, but I just wanted to say that I think you've based some strong opinions on a lot of players without actually reading into the impact they have on the structural integrity of the team, and I think although keeping up a strong rivalry between the two WA teams is great, the level of hate is really much greater than it ever needs to be. Banter is one thing but just one-eyed resentment is unnecessary.
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Ibbo?

He's similar to Joel Patful who I reckon will be retired in 1-2 years whereas I think Ibbo has a few more years in him than that

If WC somehow get McCarthy i will lose my shit !!

Unfortunately the Giants need defenders more than anything. Something we certainly cant help with :(

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Look I have no issue with you disagreeing with any of those statements, but come on, I'm just trying to be reasonable and it's purely subjective. I feel categorise it as ill-informed is a little unfair judging as it's based on opinion.

That would be reasonable if we wanted to give you a decent discussion about the subject, which we don't

Sorry mate, wrong board.
 
Nothing trumps my hatred for WCE. But I really dislike Norf and I hate losing to Richmond with a passion.

If Having Harvey, Thomas, Thompson or Furrito isn't enough, coached by Brad Scott just makes it so much worse. Easily the biggest bunch of muppets.

I find I hate the eagles fans more that I hate the team. Don't like the team, but the fans are unbearable.
 
My eagle hatred has subsided in the last few years, though it is slowly coming back this year.

I am finding my hatred to be more and more directed at any team out of Victoria.
The main reason I think is the pro Victorian football media and there sense of self entitlement.
Plus the obsession and hatred they all have for Ross.
 

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You obviously can't read properly Cletus.

I said that Jetta was a dud and that Wellingham has added nothing to your side. Losing Sinclair and gaining Giles was a bust too.
Sinclair would not have gotten a look-in this year. When Lycett is fit he takes second ruck. Sinclair coughed up a few goals against the tigers last week too. Jetta not much better for us.
 
If the budgies are looking at McCarthy it's because they're interested in him. Who do you think they'd really be worried about over the next couple of years - freo or GWS? I doubt they'd want to give GWS any extra help.

FWIW I doubt they're as interested as us, but if they could get him on the cheap then I reckon they would be mad not to.
 
Absolutely they are. Thing is, we're probably already prepared to offer Cam a lot more than what WC can afford. So basically, they're just d*ckheads.

Freo 1st pick will be pick 3>5ish, you won't finish last No 2nd pick (traded for Bennell) and their 3rd round will likely be 38ish.

Eagles 1st will likely be pick say 15, 2nd 33ish and 3rd 50ish.

Hard to tell with all these free agency picks and then the northern clubs cashing in picks for academy kids.

But the Eagles 2nd will be better than Freo's 3rd. That's Freo's problem to deal with and the Eagles would definitely offer 33 for McCarthy.

Eagles can afford whatever they feel he's worth, they aren't desperate to land any single type of player as their list is balanced. They do need a gun mid more than another tall but at pick 15 most gun mid's and gun tall's are gone.

So Freo won't be getting Cam for pick 38, they will need to do better than that.
 
I was an Eagles supporter.
Freo became my number one team when I heard Neesham was the appointed inaugural coach.
I was happy to support the Eagles as my second team. That lasted for only a couple of seasons. Their fans turned me.

I still have two passions, Freo and hating the Slime up the road.
 
Would rather we put our efforts in getting Hogan (to replace Kennedy). McCarthy is good but he's not needed.
Here we go

I know i am one of those one eyed hatred supporters. But if a club that has had Kennedy darling and lecras, with 2 GF and a flag in that time got hogan or mccarthy i would be furious !!! We have never had a decent forward

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honestly Aceknuckles does not deserve any of the hate guys. His post was fair and just standing up for his players, whilst I don't believe ALL comments regarding their players are spot on ... as a west coast supporter, he is in a better position than us to judge their team. I also think the hate from our board towards west coast, their players, fans and just in general is unnecessary, and derails threads. If a young big bodied midfielder wanted to come home, would we not have a look at him, despite our need in that regard being less than theirs (even though they're not desperate either.) They have all the right in the world to show interest in him, and ultimately, as our need is greater, we should be able to grab him. Unfortunately our trading has always been very poor and West Coast have got many of the stronger plays wanting to return home, credit to them. Jetta would slot straight into our team as would wellingham.
However other West Coast fans entering our board and turning this into a competition, or deliberately trying to annoy Freo supporters with Hogan ideas and etc.... they're flogs. Don't group somebody who came and supported his team with a bunch of d**heads just because they support the same club.
 
Freo 1st pick will be pick 3>5ish, you won't finish last No 2nd pick (traded for Bennell) and their 3rd round will likely be 38ish.

Eagles 1st will likely be pick say 15, 2nd 33ish and 3rd 50ish.

Hard to tell with all these free agency picks and then the northern clubs cashing in picks for academy kids.

But the Eagles 2nd will be better than Freo's 3rd. That's Freo's problem to deal with and the Eagles would definitely offer 33 for McCarthy.

Eagles can afford whatever they feel he's worth, they aren't desperate to land any single type of player as their list is balanced. They do need a gun mid more than another tall but at pick 15 most gun mid's and gun tall's are gone.

So Freo won't be getting Cam for pick 38, they will need to do better than that.
If we make an offer that GWS accepts but McCarthy does not sign off on, he's truly not homesick and the rumours of freo offering him 700k a year is true.
 
Here we go

I know i am one of those one eyed hatred supporters. But if a club that has had Kennedy darling and lecras, with 2 GF and a flag in that time got hogan or mccarthy i would be furious !!! We have never had a decent forward

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Not confident at all of us making top 4 this year let alone winning the flag, stop stressing
 
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