UK The Queen

[Gethelred]

This thread is actively moderated, let's behave like adults, shall we?

For conversation on an Australian Republic:

Who wants a Republic?

I am just curious in the figure as it has been over 10 years since we had a referendum for it. Personally, I think we should become a Republic.

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[spinynorman]

To some that seems an outdated idea, but that is the reason she's been respected throughout the world, for her steadfastness.

Not everywhere.



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Whether you endorse their views or not, the reality is that outside our own coddled state, British power and the monarchy that represents it is extremely divisive and reviled, including for its actions during the past 70 years.

 

[Crow54]

Not everywhere.



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Whether you endorse their views or not, the reality is that outside our own coddled state, British power and the monarchy that represents it is extremely divisive and reviled, including for its actions during the past 70 years.

And I'd say there are many millions who don't think that way. Of course there are people who are anti-monarchy. Let them enjoy themselves in their own way, and let the majority mourn in peace.

 

[Roylion]

Honestly hopefully this is the beginning of the end for the royal family

Why would it be? The whole point of a hereditary constitutional monarchy is continuity.

 

[Crow54]

I really don't see how those who wish to mourn the queen are prevented from doing so. It is not a comment on her personally. If our country's desire for independence is inherently harmful to her memory then it doesn't say much for her legacy. It just supports the view that her role was only in service of upholding a nation's desire to desperately cling on to a fading empire.

If we're talking about reflection, she was one of the most major political figures of the past century, and many will remember her as one of the most privileged people who ever lived, born into an undemocratic position of power and that her tenure was fundamentally immoral and harmful.

We can certainly have a debate about that at the right time. This is not the right time.

 

[tandino]

He mispronounced the Falkland Islands.

 

[Ice-Wolf]

Not everywhere.

Still lost. Pretty embarrassing to lose when Prince Andrew is fighting on the other side.

 

[Crow54]

A political figure has died. There should be no time for “decorum” in terms of not having conversations because of the time.

If she/her family wanted “respect” and “privacy” and “decorum” at this time they should have chosen a life as a private citizen. Can’t have it both ways.

She wasn't a political figure. The Queen's role in Government: As Head of State The Queen has to remain strictly neutral with respect to political matters. By convention, The Queen does not vote or stand for election, however Her Majesty does have important ceremonial and formal roles in relation to the government of the UK.

It's neither here nor there whether her family wants respect, privacy or decorum. It's what the public expects and wants, imho.

 

[Gough]

Not everywhere.



And



Whether you endorse their views or not, the reality is that outside our own coddled state, British power and the monarchy that represents it is extremely divisive and reviled, including for its actions during the past 70 years.

 

[Gethelred]

Australia's parliament suspended for 15 days. 15 days? What a joke. She's not even Australian ffs.

Dude. You absolutely know why they're doing it. C'mon.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

She wasn't a political figure. The Queen's role in Government: As Head of State The Queen has to remain strictly neutral with respect to political matters. By convention, The Queen does not vote or stand for election, however Her Majesty does have important ceremonial and formal roles in relation to the government of the UK.

It's neither here nor there whether her family wants respect, privacy or decorum. It's what the public expects and wants, imho.

Lol.

If you believe she was apolitical I don’t know what to tell you. Every utterance and outing was carefully crafted and statements had political impact.

Glad to see you can speak for the entirety of the public though.

 

[Gethelred]

Alright, that's enough.

Crow54, posters are allowed to post as they would in this thread. It isn't for you to decide what an appropriate reaction to this is.

As for everyone else, acknowledge that there will be people who are in mourning and show an appropriate level of maturity, or you will be threadbanned.

 

[Festerz]

She wasn't a political figure. The Queen's role in Government: As Head of State The Queen has to remain strictly neutral with respect to political matters. By convention, The Queen does not vote or stand for election, however Her Majesty does have important ceremonial and formal roles in relation to the government of the UK.

I very much disagree.

She was very much a political figure and, more importantly, her position and role given to her by an archaic birthright process, is the embodiment of the political class system that is an anathema to principles of freedom and equality that underpin modern democratic principles.

And, as was pointed out to me in another thread, her personal role in influencing government decision making was more than evident throughout her reign. e.g.:

The queen’s gambit — new evidence shows how Her Majesty wields influence on legislation

New documents expose a chink in the queen’s armour of secrecy.

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[quotemokc]

Not everywhere.



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Whether you endorse their views or not, the reality is that outside our own coddled state, British power and the monarchy that represents it is extremely divisive and reviled, including for its actions during the past 70 years.

Please name a country that has not done bad things ever.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Sad. RIP your majesty.

 

[ibd77]

Soooooo, do we still get a long weekend in June?

She had a good innings, may she RIP.

 

[NSWCROW]

Please name a country that has not done bad things ever.

Wakanada.....? wa..... wa..... wakanda

 

[Satan]

Wakanada.....? wa..... wa..... wakanda
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Zamibia

 

[Bluelegs]

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To be fair the whole point of that movie was that Wakanda's isolationism was inherently immoral.

 

[Underarm]

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You mean a fictional country that basically said to all its impoverished neighbours "**** you I got mine"?

 

[Bluelegs]

You mean a fictional country that basically said to all its impoverished neighbours "* you I got mine"?

I like how the resolution was they donated a basketball court to an impoverished suburb.

 

[projectv]

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Dude. You absolutely know why they're doing it. C'mon.

What reason? Is 15 days necessary? Surely 1 day is appropriate.

 

[Cuzz09]

Dude. You absolutely know why they're doing it. C'mon.

why?

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[Cuzz09]

Soooooo, do we still get a long weekend in June?

She had a good innings, may she RIP.

that's what most want to know.

Whens Charles birthday? maybe make a new pub hol on that day

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[Aristotle Pickett]

Please name a country that has not done bad things ever.

Britain tops the list of decimating Indigenous cultures.
Why do they own 1/3 of Ireland, why do they own the Faulkland Islands ? They took them by force.