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What do we think about Elons claim of clearing 2t off the budget?

I have maga mates who think he's serious and they say he's going to do it by slashing public servant numbers. Even if he sacks every civilian federal employee, that's only 300b gone.

Defence won't get cut, which means that around 40% of health and welfare spending would need to be cut to make up 2t.

I'm not worried because it's Elon, he's not actually going to review the budget, but if they cut 2t it would make the 2008 recession look like nothing.
Just hyperbole, won’t happen, can’t happen. They will find savings, I mean who couldn’t but to find that amount is just crap.
 
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i think he will do fine and will clean up
id rather him in than the swamp
Yea the swamp, lolz, that's why he has selected two neocon warhawks as secretary of defence and state .
Anyone who believes the swamp nonsense is very funny.

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The left has a massive issue with identity politics. No one cares, yet they've been sucked into it and it's hard for them to find a way out.

Your average person just doesn't give a shit about race, gender identity etc. The sooner the left realise this and move the hell away from these issues the better.

The thing that's so funny about this US election is Trump has spent four years saying he was robbed and cheated, then starts a riot, then on the night starts saying that he's being cheated in Pennsylvania. Then as soon as he starts winning that state and the election it's like "um actually yeah this election is all good, thanks guys".

The fact that the democrats couldn't beat a guy that just constantly lies and pretty much threatened to try and start a civil war if he lost the election just shows how our of touch they are with regular people.

And the sad thing is that Labor look very similar here. Completely out of touch with people.
 
Your average person just doesn't give a shit about race, gender identity etc. The sooner the left realise this and move the hell away from these issues the better.
Were the dems really running on a platform of gender identity issues? I don't really recall them bringing it up.

I heard a lot about what the right said the left were going to do about those issues, but it really didn't seem to come up much from what I saw.

What the left need to do is find a way to break the narrative that conservatives are better at managing the economy. We have decades of evidence going back to the 70s in the US, UK and Australia that indicates this is just not the case.
 
The left has a massive issue with identity politics. No one cares, yet they've been sucked into it and it's hard for them to find a way out.

Your average person just doesn't give a shit about race, gender identity etc. The sooner the left realise this and move the hell away from these issues the better.

The thing that's so funny about this US election is Trump has spent four years saying he was robbed and cheated, then starts a riot, then on the night starts saying that he's being cheated in Pennsylvania. Then as soon as he starts winning that state and the election it's like "um actually yeah this election is all good, thanks guys".

The fact that the democrats couldn't beat a guy that just constantly lies and pretty much threatened to try and start a civil war if he lost the election just shows how our of touch they are with regular people.

And the sad thing is that Labor look very similar here. Completely out of touch with people.
I would say liberals and neoliberals have a problem with Identity politics.

Any actual left wing person does not give a ****, It's about class and economics.

The democratic party in the USA is run by upper class corporate liberals.
 
Were the dems really running on a platform of gender identity issues? I don't really recall them bringing it up.

I heard a lot about what the right said the left were going to do about those issues, but it really didn't seem to come up much from what I saw.

What the left need to do is find a way to break the narrative that conservatives are better at managing the economy. We have decades of evidence going back to the 70s in the US, UK and Australia that indicates this is just not the case.
I think they tried to distance themselves from it but the association is there now. They need a bit of a new take on it all. Not sure anyone knows what they stand for.
 
He’s a smart guy and will do some good but he’s on for a shock if he thinks you can run a government the way he runs his companies.


He gets billions in subsidies from government or he's be broke. They are all full of shit. Deifying politicians is a form of insanity. They don't let you in if you are any good for the people at the bottom.
 
I would say liberals and neoliberals have a problem with Identity politics.

Any actual left wing person does not give a ****, It's about class and economics.

The democratic party in the USA is run by upper class corporate liberals.


Socially liberal policy has taken over from economically socialist policy that might help people financially. While people are arguing over drag queens they don't need to give them anything to help cost of living.
 
Socially liberal policy has taken over from economically socialist policy that might help people financially. While people are arguing over drag queens they don't need to give them anything to help cost of living.
It's divide and conquer.

The "culture war" is just a distraction from the class war.

I feel the occupy wall street movements suddenly made the companies that own the media to start focusing on "culture war" issues as a distraction.

And culture wars = clicks = engagement = advertising money.
 
Having read it properly though, I still don't like it.

Imo Myer shouldn't cancel the event. Anyone protesting should be arrested.

Surely the "right to protest" needs to have some common sense attached as to what you're actually protesting about. It's a Christmas display ffs.

Completely agree, the logic seems to be "unless everyone in the world is happy, no-one can have fun". I don't really see where that logic ends tbh.
 

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It's divide and conquer.

The "culture war" is just a distraction from the class war.

I feel the occupy wall street movements suddenly made the companies that own the media to start focusing on "culture war" issues as a distraction.

And culture wars = clicks = engagement = advertising money.

It's generally better for the 1% to have the 99% fighting amongst themselves about stuff that sort of matters, that way the 1% can concentrate on extracting cash from them all. Very effective tactic!
 

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