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It's exactly why TC people are annoyed about Jamo's long term deal - it's could be Carrots all over again.
Who cares about what they think over at TC!
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It's exactly why TC people are annoyed about Jamo's long term deal - it's could be Carrots all over again.
Who cares about what they think over at TC!
such a tribalist AphWho cares about what they think over at TC!
such a tribalist Aph
Given the way Carrots' long term deal on big bucks has turned out, they might have some merit re:Jamo.
Fresh air would be competition enough given the form he's in.Jarrad on his day is an exceptional footballer and sadly we have very little coming up to replace him so he doesn't have any real competition for his spot.
Gone: Carrazzo, Waite, Mclean, Bootsma, Duigan, Scotland, Watson, Warnock, Lucas.
Borderline: Garlett, White, McInnes, Bell, Armfield, Temay, Tuohy, Ellard, Cachia, Robinson (at least he has some heart), Judd (if he chooses to retire).
WTF has happened to: Walker, Henderson.
Shit list is utter, utter shit.
Carrots: Rookie list himCarrots is contracted
Robinson was our BOG, he should be kept even if it's for depth
Hendo is unfit
Why is Temay borderline?
What a terrible post. Really need to take a step back and calm down before ranting.Gone: Carrazzo, Waite, Mclean, Bootsma, Duigan, Scotland, Watson, Warnock, Lucas.
Borderline: Garlett, White, McInnes, Bell, Armfield, Temay, Tuohy, Ellard, Cachia, Robinson (at least he has some heart), Judd (if he chooses to retire).
WTF has happened to: Walker, Henderson.
Shit list is utter, utter shit.
What a terrible post. Really need to take a step back and calm down before ranting.
Where do we find replacements with 18 teams looking for talent?
No team can cut all these players and replace them with the talent you find after the third round.
Carrazzo won't go.
What a terrible post. Really need to take a step back and calm down before ranting.
Where do we find replacements with 18 teams looking for talent?
No team can cut all these players and replace them with the talent you find after the third round.
Carrazzo won't go.
What a terrible post. Really need to take a step back and calm down before ranting.
Where do we find replacements with 18 teams looking for talent?
No team can cut all these players and replace them with the talent you find after the third round.
Carrazzo won't go.
I do.Who cares where they come from ??
If we are being beaten by the bottom 4 teams now with these players we cannot possibly get any worse by drafting in a slab of youth and playing them all on a constant rotational basis next year.
Worrying about who is going to replace players in a team that constantly loses is simply nonsense.
Where do we find ready made replacements who can step in for all these players?Any 6 year old AusKicker at half time shows better skills and more heart than our excuse of a list.
Why bother retaining him? We have Curnow, Graham, Everitt, Armfield and Cachia who can all play inside/run-with roles. He's been pretty good through his career, nothing special. Would he still be on a Geelong list, or a Hawthorn list? Hanging on to players is part of our problem. We've debuted ONE player all year. Cats have debuted 9 or so. Hawks, Swans and Pies keep turning their list over. Our list is like a garden that hasn't seen a rake in years. It needs weeding and pruning and re-seeding.
Didn't the Demons bring in Vince, Cross and Dawes to get more veterans or experienced players?It's actually a very sensible post. Pumpy's not saying that we can dump all those players in a season. He's saying that our list is stuffed with VFL wonders, failed early round draft picks, failed trades, and a few very decent players who are starting to smell past their used-by.
There is no quick fix for this. We loaded up and the window is shut, and now we have to take our medicine.
With the rise of Melbourne, we are now very close to being the team with the worst round 1-3 recruiting/development record over the past decade. Nothing gets fixed until that gets acknowledged and fixed.
You're underrating GWS who have performed well against the Hawks. They could easily be biting at the heels of the Suns this time next year.
You only want KPP who are 196 cms or taller...
Where do we find ready made replacements who can step in for all these players?
Our list is a reflection of the drafts being compromised to build the Suns and Giants. There isn't enough talent out there to improve Carlton, Richmond, North, Essendon and the other mediocre teams. Other clubs have had just as many failures, but our overly critical fans expect us to nail every pick.
You CAN'T delist/trade them all. That's NOT what I was inferring. What I was certainly STATING though is that all the players I listed DESERVE to be delisted/traded. Obviously we can't do it, but, with the exception of Robinson and Judd, none of the players I mentioned really deserve a starting 22 spot on any AFL team.
Soft. You didn't hard enough!We aren't much good, we are lacking in good footballers, it's scary but our coaching staff are actually getting the best out of what is an atrociously bad football side.
Our problems:
- Too slow.
- Ball handling is not good enough.
- forward line is not dangerous, there are no good tall targets and the rest are hot and cold, don't get enough goals or defensive pressure from small forwards.
- Midfield has too many passengers and one dimensional types.
- We have no real high possession accumulators in our team.
- Our small defenders are of really poor quality.
- Our ruckman is a very poor and stupid footballer.
- Our onballers lack the leg speed, ball winning ability and kicking quality to be real damaging.
- Our major ball winners aren't damaging enough with their possession.
- Our decision making is terrible.
- Not fit enough.
- Too many players who do not contribute week in week out.
This all comes back to our poor drafting, both drafting mediocre players with high picks, drafting players who can't play and making poor decisions on types at the draft table.
This is going to take a lot of turning around.
We've gotta draft well, we have to be aggressive come trade time.
This list also has Hughes' fingerprint all over it, he has made some very poor choices over a number of years that has baffled everyone (Exhibit A : Lucas V Talia, Exhibit B : Watson V Darling).