I mean, it's a pretty poor trade but it's not hard to mention the fact we got a third round pick back for him as well as (likely irrelevant) pick 70
The Worst Trade Ever
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That this Weller trade is being touted as anywhere close to the worst of all time is a typical knee jerk BF reaction.
Slight overpayment as things stand. A likely 200 game player who is going to be a jet and more importantly, wants to be there was traded for an untested kid who in all likelihood, if he turns out to be any good, will be lured back home in a few years.
Slight overpayment as things stand. A likely 200 game player who is going to be a jet and more importantly, wants to be there was traded for an untested kid who in all likelihood, if he turns out to be any good, will be lured back home in a few years.
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In a practical or pragmatic sense, yes it's not a bad deal. Would they be happy with drafting at pick 2 a talented midfielder who looks the world to be a future 200 gamer, keen to play at the club for the long haul and known leadership ability? Damn straight.
But I do think they left a lot of their leverage on the table. Was going to come next year regardless, player himself actually came out and said his requested worth of pick 2 was "silly" and actually Freo's coaches did not rate him in their top 10 performers this year despite playing every game.
Good on them for backing up their commitments to their man and putting their money where their mouth is, but does seem a very steep cost in relative terms.
Overpaid a bit but I don't reckon it's that bad.
Struggle to comprehend that one as well. Very talented kid, but there's still a lot of question marks and like the Suns they left a lot of leverage on the table after a protracted stand off.
I guess again good on them for honouring their commitments to the player which might be part of a strategy to develop confidence and trust within the playing group and the club. I don't think he fits that big a need for them though.
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Then do what GWS does and draft the best players, then trade them back home for top picks in a future draft, or for top players. There's never a reason to devalue a pick just because you have a lot of them already. Picks are currency!
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I know of clubs who have used pick 1 on players who haven't played a game.
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Pick 2 for Lachie Weller.
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All over an earring apparently too.
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pick 2 for Weller makes sense to me.
Weller is proven and will most likely be a 200+ game player.
Especially for GC that a local boy actually wants to go and play for them is also a bonus.
If they picked a vic kid with pick 2, he will most likey want to come home in 2-5 years.
Weller is proven and will most likely be a 200+ game player.
Especially for GC that a local boy actually wants to go and play for them is also a bonus.
If they picked a vic kid with pick 2, he will most likey want to come home in 2-5 years.
I think the club is in a position where they need to get as many willing and able guys into their club as they can to rebuild a lot the loyalty that has been eroded over the last few years by so many draftees bailing out.
Brisbane were willing to pay for Cameron from the outset from most reports (high teens/low 20s) which would have been a very fair deal for the Crows but I guess Adelaide being on the back foot and Cameron having a contract made him harder to extract. He's a talent though - he kicked 5 in a Prelim and one of the best young small forwards around. Worth it for them I think.
They'll always fight the Go-Home factor, even when they were flying they still lost Des Headland, so when it's coming back the other way (Beams, Christensen, Cameron), you can't blame them for grabbing those opportunities for guys that want to be at the club while they rebuild.
Schache was clearly the opposite - decided they just couldn't twist his arm every couple of years, wasting time developing a guy who would bail and play his best football elsewhere.
I very strongly disagree. Take away the 5 goals and he kicked something like 24 goals in 23 games playing in the team that finished on top of the ladder. He will never be a number one small forward. He looked ok at times next to Betts and playing in a strong forward line, but in reality hes an average player who will struggle massively playing for a weak team.
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Will be interesting to see how these players drafted at 2 and 12 turn out. Appears as though recruiters see this draft as incredibly speculative. I'm going to back in Weller and Cameron. And I am going to back in the positions of GC and Brisbane in valuing the fact that young talent with some runs on the board have a strong desire to play for them and now have something to prove at their new clubs.
To suggest that these are even in the stratosphere of the 'Worst Trade Ever' is I guess just predictably BigFooty.
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He didn't say valuing him at pick 2 was silly, he said we'd be 'silly' not to take the deal GC had offered.
It was just a statement designed to try force a move.
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this.
on paper it looks like utter madness, but when you dig into the detail its actually a good trade for GC. you need to look at the draft to understand why it was a good move by the GC to lock away a talent like lachie
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The new normal with Queensland clubs. Keeping AFL talent in Qld is so hard that they'll overpay for anybody who actually does want to go there.
I don't think 2 for Weller is that bad, Gold Coast have finally found someone who wants to play for them!
It wasn’t just 2 for Weller, there some quite good steak knives in matera too!
If Hawthorn had pick 2 they would have given it up for Mitchell, you can only give what you have!!!
Now at the same age Mitchell had 20 games under his belt with just the one 30+ (31) possession game, how many people knew then that he would be the player he is today, you and who else?
And what has Wellers input next year have to do with the trade?
That makes it part of the problem and sets a precedent for the club. It must be a bit of a worry for the Afl that the go home factor is becoming an issue and is affecting how teams trade and draft as it creates an uneven playing field. GWS are bleeding players as well but the issue is being hidden to a certain extend due to the amount of top end drafts picks they received at start up.
Can't blame a kid for going to a team that is willing to pay you massive overs and give you a chance to play finals football. Teams have been trying for years but players were (stupidly) loyal to thier clubs and with the ridiculously small salary cap it was almost impossible to entice a player to change clubs. I think it's great players move for money, they don't have long so make the most of it.
He wasn't better than any of these players, it doesnt mean he was bad!!!
Bradley Hill, Lachie Neale, Nat Fyfe, David Mundy, Michael Walters, Joel Hamling, Michael Johnson, Connor Blakely, Stephen Hill ect
Plus the voting system is shit!
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GC didn't just have pick 2, they had pick 19 which would have been far more suitable for Weller. I also doubt Hawks would have given up pick 2 for Mitchell. It would definitely have been worth it in hindsight, but only in hindsight, wouldn't have seemed like a good trade at the time. As it was, 14 seemed like a good deal for both teams.
You don't trade on the off chance they turn into the next Gary Ablett, you trade on the potential they currently show. GC paid more than what than what he has currently shown, therefore you'd hope he'd take a much bigger step forward than Mitchell has to justify the price.
