The Worst Trade Ever

[KissKiss]

I was definitely wrong, no doubt about that. Bit odd to quote somebody from about 6 years ago though.

Going early on this thread is setting you up to either look like a genius or risking you looking like an idiot.

Definitely some potential future additions to this thread this year:

• North: Pick 2 or 3 for 27 and 20+ (and maybe add 25 for Caleb Daniel to that)
• WC: pick 3 for Baker, Owies and 13
• GCS: Pick 6+23 for Rioli + some junk picks (although useful for points at least)

 

[Lars27]

Are we all just ignoring Essendon giving up pick 9 this year?
Surely you trade it up a spot or two to grab a top 10 talent and Kako

It would of taken too much to trade up AND have enough points to match Kako.
We don't know if Kako would of been bid on or not if we kept pick 9. But even if he wasn't bid on before our first pick, we would be only be getting Kako+Lindsay (or someone else rated similarly) and no other decent picks. And we likely would of gone into deficit next year as we only had pick 28 to match (no third rounder).
Instead of Lindsay we now have Melbourne's F1 + picks 37/39/42 in a deep draft. That's not a bad result at all.

 

[HBFlanker]

Last nights two contributors to this thread.

- North trading a probable top 5 pick for pick 19 and pick 27

- Essendon trading out of a super draft top 10 thinking a club will bid on a small forward in their academy, which didnt come until the mid teens.

Both 10/10 bad decisions.

 

[Blackhawk42]

The North trade looks bad on the surface, but not so much when you take a few things into consideration.

1. They've had plenty of first round picks the past few years, including FOS last night.
2. We have no idea how good Whitlock could turn out to be. If he's projects like Josh Weddle then all will be forgiven.
3. Even if they finish 17th next season (and Richmond 18th), then they have (without bids etc) picks 19 and 20.
If they let LDU walk for the compo they're straight back into pick 3 alongside those selections. If they don't then they hold the all important 'first pick of the second night' and will likely receive plenty of offers for it to improve their hand elsewhere.
4. If they manage to improve enough next season to climb up the ladder then nobody will care either.


If Whitlock is a bust AND North are dead bottom again next season then the trade will likely be viewed as a monumental failure.

 

[faible]

- Essendon trading out of a super draft top 10 thinking a club will bid on a small forward in their academy, which didnt come until the mid teens.

Stop listening to Mick Ablett and you'll be smarter for it.

Our pick ended up being 11. Kako was bid on at 13.

Saints were always considered likely to bid, we did a draft night trade with them to get them up the order in the second round, and lo and behold, they didn't bid.

 

[HBFlanker]

Stop listening to Mick Ablett and you'll be smarter for it.

Our pick ended up being 11. Kako was bid on at 13.

Saints were always considered likely to bid, we did a draft night trade with them to get them up the order in the second round, and lo and behold, they didn't bid.

Essendon should have traded 9 and a future 1st to get into the top 3. I reckon North would have done it for pick 2 and you could have got FOS and North would have got Tauru.

Then it just would have been a matter of getting the points for Kako together, which would have been easily done.

 

[faible]

Essendon should have traded 9 and a future 1st to get into the top 3. I reckon North would have done it for pick 2 and you could have got FOS and North would have got Tauru.

Then it just would have been a matter of getting the points for Kako together, which would have been easily done.

Tauru went the pick before Essendon's. So you wouldn't have got Tauru.

 

[HBFlanker]

Tauru went the pick before Essendon's. So you wouldn't have got Tauru.

Whoever they would have got would have made sense.

Both clubs didnt have great nights.

 

[faible]

Whoever they would have got would have made sense.

Both clubs didnt have great nights.

Essendon traded out: 9, 44 (F3), 53 (Stringer).

And got: 5 (F1), 32, 35, 37, 47, 54, 65

So out 2064 points, in 4093 points.

I think we did fine.

We entered the draft with 1 x 1st, 1 x 2nd and no third.

We'll leave taking 1 x 1st, 2 x 2nds, 1 x 3rd (assuming nothing changes) and with an extra F1 in-hand for next year.

 

[Lars27]

Essendon should have traded 9 and a future 1st to get into the top 3. I reckon North would have done it for pick 2 and you could have got FOS and North would have got Tauru.

Then it just would have been a matter of getting the points for Kako together, which would have been easily done.

Even if that was possible, it would end up being FOS vs two F1 picks (our one likely early, Demons possibly top10) and picks 37+39+43 in this draft.
No thanks

 

[maskmcgee]

It all comes down to how good Whitlock turns out to be.

Who was that player Carlton did the same thing for a few years ago? I'm pretty sure that was a spectacular failure.

Are we all just ignoring Essendon giving up pick 9 this year?

I thought we should of just kept it and not matched a bid on Kako if it came, but we traded pick 9 for probably around pick 9 next year and basically all of Melbourne's other picks this year. Much better than trading 1 for 27 and 29.

 

[tombomb]

Stop listening to Mick Ablett and you'll be smarter for it.

Our pick ended up being 11. Kako was bid on at 13.

Saints were always considered likely to bid, we did a draft night trade with them to get them up the order in the second round, and lo and behold, they didn't bid.

You should start listening to him because he is right.

Your team had multiple options with Kako. Panicked and took the worst one.

 

[faible]

You should start listening to him because he is right.

Your team had multiple options with Kako. Panicked and took the worst one.

Nope he was very wrong.

Twomey and Landsberger managed to comprehend it just fine. Ablett needs to spend more time understanding what he's talking about and less time sticking botox in his forehead.

 

[adonski]

If Norf can trade the 2nd rounder tied to Richmond back into this yrs draft and grab another tall - the other Whitlock even, the optix will be much improved

 

[tombomb]

Nope he was very wrong.

Twomey and Landsberger managed to comprehend it just fine.

Everyone understands why Essendon did what they did ... but it was still a really dumb decision.

 

[faible]

I doubt it was Sam Landsberger.

But as for Twomey, everyone understands why Essendon did what they did ... but it was still a really dumb decision.

Disagree.

Twomey also disagreed. Between Twomey and Ablett, I know which one I'd go with.

 

[tombomb]

Disagree.

Twomey also disagreed. Between Twomey and Ablett, I know which one I'd go with.

You had an opportunity to double dip in the first round of a super draft and passed it up. Good for the other clubs I guess.

 

[faible]

You had an opportunity to double dip in the first round of a super draft and passed it up. Good for the other clubs I guess.

We almost certainly didn't.

It's also regarded as a deep draft. Not necessarily stacked with super stars.

 

[Lars27]

Everyone understands why Essendon did what they did ... but it was still a really dumb decision.

No it wasn't. It protected us from a scenario where Kako was bid on early, but still gave us plenty of draft capital over two drafts.

 

[tombomb]

No it wasn't. It protected us from a scenario where Kako was bid on early, but still gave us plenty of draft capital over two drafts.

You had 6 weeks to prepare for a live trade in the very slim chance that a bid came. North just traded their f1 for pick 27.

 

[tombomb]

We almost certainly didn't.

It's also regarded as a deep draft. Not necessarily stacked with super stars.

Well you did. Because the bid for Kako came after your selection. It just happened last night.

 

[faible]

Well you did. Because the bid for Kako came after your selection. It just happened last night.

You're battling here mate

Saints were always considered likely to bid, we did a draft night trade with them to get them up the order in the second round, and lo and behold, they didn't bid.

 

[Lars27]

Well you did. Because the bid for Kako came after your selection. It just happened last night.

Yeah you don't know for sure if it would play out like that if we had kept our first pick. For instance we ended up doing a pick swap with St Kilda that might have included them not bidding on Kako.

 

[fnerd]

No it wasn't. It protected us from a scenario where Kako was bid on early, but still gave us plenty of draft capital over two drafts.

Protected lol.

It only ended up protecting you from the draft monsters in your list managers head , that was about it.

Absolute rookie mistake by your dodo heir apparent (no doubt with a bit of advice from the Sith Lord himself I suspect)

Essendon just doing Essendon in things

 

[Lars27]

Protected lol.

It only ended up protecting you from the draft monsters in your list managers head , that was about it.

Absolute rookie mistake by your dodo heir apparent (no doubt with a bit of advice from the Sith Lord himself I suspect)

Essendon just doing Essendon in things

Even if Kako wasn't bid on had we kept the pick, we still got plenty of compensation. So that scenario doesn't even matter