Things You Don't Give a Shit About

[Mancey]

VN's believe it or not are coming back, although VK's and VL's are far more desirable, especially the VL Calais turbos which are an absolute weapon. Basically a skyline in sheeps clothing

 

[Scotland]

Most cars built here in the 80s and 90s aren't really worth keeping TBH. They get pretty low scores for style, performance, reliability. If I see a VH Commodore then all I see is potential parts for an LX Torana. The older models were built to last. The technology is clunky but they're not flimsy. I'd really like to get an EK one day.

I find VLs hilarious, given most people that froth over them hate 'Jap crap'.

 

[Mancey]

Anything with plastic bumpers holds little interest to me tbh.

But the 90's cars will eventually be desirable as a 60s muscle car. its just the way of things

 

[Mancey]

In 40 years time people will no doubt be frothing over a Mitsubishi Lancer or a VE commodore

 

[Scotland]

I don't reckon they will be as popular, but we'll see.

The coolness of a Valiant or XB Falcon or something is in the style of the era. We're never going back to the style and tech of the era because as we all know modern cars are an improvement in tech from the last model to the next. Two tonne lumps of steel fail crash tests, a 3L Holden red motor makes about as much power as a 1.8L Toyota Corolla and uses twice as much fuel etc.

1957 FE Holden
1977 HZ Holden
1997 VT Commodore
2017 VE Commodore

The difference from FE to HZ is huge, and that period a whole heap of new models and sizes came on board, each with distinct styling. The difference from HZ to VT is huge in tech development. VT to VE is just refining the same concept really. More electronic sensors, better emissions standards, more modern features - but ultimately not much different to any other Commodore of the last 20 years. The only 2000s Holden I can see being sought after is the Monaro which only had a short run. Or one of those 427 specials.

 

[craigos]

I don't reckon they will be as popular, but we'll see.

The coolness of a Valiant or XB Falcon or something is in the style of the era. We're never going back to the style and tech of the era because as we all know modern cars are an improvement in tech from the last model to the next. Two tonne lumps of steel fail crash tests, a 3L Holden red motor makes about as much power as a 1.8L Toyota Corolla and uses twice as much fuel etc.

1957 FE Holden
1977 HZ Holden
1997 VT Commodore
2017 VE Commodore

The difference from FE to HZ is huge, and that period a whole heap of new models and sizes came on board, each with distinct styling. The difference from HZ to VT is huge in tech development. VT to VE is just refining the same concept really. More electronic sensors, better emissions standards, more modern features - but ultimately not much different to any other Commodore of the last 20 years. The only 2000s Holden I can see being sought after is the Monaro which only had a short run. Or one of those 427 specials.

I have a 1971 HG Premier, was my first car. Bought it for $1050 over a decade ago

 

[Brad Goodman]

Commodores peaked with the VS or VT, or maybe that's just because they're the models that were around when I was in high school (which co-incides with the last time I was properly interested in cars).

 

[Mancey]

Just got mine back from a tidy up at the painters the other day. Haven't driven it for 3 years while i gave it a freshen up

 

[Scotland]

I just got a little bit hard.

 

[Gough]

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Just got mine back from a tidy up at the painters the other day. Haven't driven it for 3 years while i gave it a freshen up

One of my mates had one of those as a first car. Cost you twenty bucks every time you started it, but there be them, and the cockroaches left after the bomb is dropped.

 

[PoppedCorn]

I'm running an xb 4 door
Its in a transition period of its life

 

[Mancey]

One of my mates had one of those as a first car. Cost you twenty bucks every time you started it, but there be them, and the cockroaches left after the bomb is dropped.

Mine is just a slant 6 so isn't terrible on juice, maybe 13-14L/100km. But that said it isn't a rocket by any means, just a lazy weekend cruiser.

Probably not many people are aware of the slant 6 these days, but they were one of the weirdest engines ever build. They are tilted over in the engine bay 30 degrees so it looks like they have fallen over. They were absolutely unkillable however, massively overengineered.

 

[The Dice Man]

I always wanted one of these

Had a 67 HR back in the mid 90s. Was beautiful but spent a fortune fixing it up then had to sell.

Someone told me years ago that Valiant closed down because they made their cars too good and they didnt die like the average car.

 

[Mancey]

I always wanted one of these

Had a 67 HR back in the mid 90s. Was beautiful but spent a fortune fixing it up then had to sell.

Someone told me years ago that Valiant closed down because they made their cars too good and they didnt die like the average car.

I reckon the early R and S series vals are probably the boldest and best styled car ever made by an aussie company (granted they were basically a plymouth clone)

Still look awesome now



The story of why chrysler died is probably not so much that they lasted forever. That said they had the best 6 cyl engines by far of all the australian brands. The equivalent holden and ford 6's at the time were a joke in comparison and the 8 was probably on par with ford, with the holden well behind.

Their management were a bit inept and didn't see the winds of change in the late 70s. The oil crisis meant the japanese started to steal their sales with cheap 4 cylinder cars, so they started cutting costs by not updating the styling. They went from being on the cutting edge of style, to boring boxy looking things that didn't appeal so sales dropped further. Then they tried to bring in a smaller car, the Centura...which wasn't a bad car, but was built in France, and they were blocked from importing them due to the french nuclear testing embargos. By the time that got sorted out they had lost market share.

Mitsubishi bought the brand out and made more money making Sigmas, colts and various other shitboxes than making valiants, so they just killed off the brand. A legend went out with a whimper.

Some of the factory still stands in Adelaide. I really want to road trip mine there one day and get a photo of it in front of the remnant.

 

[The Dice Man]

I reckon the early R and S series vals are probably the boldest and best styled car ever made by an aussie company (granted they were basically a plymouth clone)

Still look awesome now

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The story of why chrysler died is probably not so much that they lasted forever. That said they had the best 6 cyl engines by far of all the australian brands. The equivalent holden and ford 6's at the time were a joke in comparison and the 8 was probably on par with ford, with the holden well behind.

Their management were a bit inept and didn't see the winds of change in the late 70s. The oil crisis meant the japanese started to steal their sales with cheap 4 cylinder cars, so they started cutting costs by not updating the styling. They went from being on the cutting edge of style, to boring boxy looking things that didn't appeal so sales dropped further. Then they tried to bring in a smaller car, the Centura...which wasn't a bad car, but was built in France, and they were blocked from importing them due to the french nuclear testing embargos. By the time that got sorted out they had lost market share.

Mitsubishi bought the brand out and made more money making Sigmas, colts and various other shitboxes than making valiants, so they just killed off the brand. A legend went out with a whimper.

Some of the factory still stands in Adelaide. I really want to road trip mine there one day and get a photo of it in front of the remnant.

Great story. And how the hell did anyone get that car so clean? It looks like liquid. But what a beautiful car.

 

[quotemokc]

Anyone know/remember these cars?

We used to have one that sat in our garage for 10 years. My dad never got round to doing it up so he sold it to a friend.

Wish he had kept it.

 

[Billy ray]

Cars.

 

[Admiral Byng]

Johnathan What-is-name's shoulder injury.

I hear the QLD news websites were running Beyond Blue ads on the same page.

 

[chargers 09]

I don't reckon they will be as popular, but we'll see.

The coolness of a Valiant or XB Falcon or something is in the style of the era. We're never going back to the style and tech of the era because as we all know modern cars are an improvement in tech from the last model to the next. Two tonne lumps of steel fail crash tests, a 3L Holden red motor makes about as much power as a 1.8L Toyota Corolla and uses twice as much fuel etc.

1957 FE Holden
1977 HZ Holden
1997 VT Commodore
2017 VE Commodore

The difference from FE to HZ is huge, and that period a whole heap of new models and sizes came on board, each with distinct styling. The difference from HZ to VT is huge in tech development. VT to VE is just refining the same concept really. More electronic sensors, better emissions standards, more modern features - but ultimately not much different to any other Commodore of the last 20 years. The only 2000s Holden I can see being sought after is the Monaro which only had a short run. Or one of those 427 specials.

Redlines as well will be sought after.


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[Meow]

Cars.

If it's in reasonable nick and gets me from point A to B, then it's good enough.

 

[Mancey]

Anyone know/remember these cars?

We used to have one that sat in our garage for 10 years. My dad never got round to doing it up so he sold it to a friend.

Wish he had kept it.

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Looks like the coyote out of hardcastle and mccormick

Great story. And how the hell did anyone get that car so clean? It looks like liquid. But what a beautiful car.

Colour sanding. They wet sand the paint back until it looks like glass.

Paint alone on that car would be 25k minimum

 

[Meow]

There are probably plenty of flog cat owners but you just don't know it because you don't see them in public with their cats like you do dogs.

These owners are easy to spot. They're the types who fail to keep their cats indoors at night/when the house is unattended and couldn't give a continental when their animal roams around neighbouring properties.

 

[The Dice Man]

Looks like the coyote out of hardcastle and mccormick




Colour sanding. They wet sand the paint back until it looks like glass.

Paint alone on that car would be 25k minimum

You seem to know what your talking about when it comes to cars and cleaning. I have 5 cars I need to keep clean in summer. All black.. Merc SL 500, Merc sl coupe, Chrysler Voyager and an Audi Q5. With a Rolls coming at the end of the year. Any washing tips? Our driveway is super long and dusty too so soon as Ive got them clean, theyre caked in dust soon as they leave the property.

 

[Mancey]

Yeah i had a house with a 2km gravel driveway once so i know the struggle.

You're shit out of luck tbh, especially black cars. All you can do is keep them waxed to make the cleaning easier.

To be honest I'm more into building and driving them than cleaning them. If you zoom in on that pic of my valiant you'll see the paint is far from perfect

 

[perthblue]

car go vroom vroom