Traded Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[JackOutback]

The gap between the F3 and the F4 will be a few picks... It is basically a future first and a future 2nd.

These are the kinds of assumptions that can make trading future picks fun. Not a whole lot has to go wrong for your F1, 2 and 3 to be a lot more valuable and a couple more wins from us could devalue our pick. Gives me two games a week to have an interest in next week.

 

[hawkman]

Interesting that WC seem to have chosen our picks to take given I'm not sure Carlton have got better over this trade period

 

[Scotland]

If we can get 4 years of 20 games a year out of him he may well be.

These arent just about Battle and Barrass. Its about Sicily and Weddle too. If we can move pieces around minute by minute, quarter by quarter it completely messes with opposition structure.

Barrass is the cornerstone. As expected in a trade thread TB has been criminally underrated but he is first and foremost a genuine key position player.

Sicily is listed as 186cm 87kg, Battle 193cm 92kg. TB is 196cm 96kg and easily the best defender of the 3. The fact he can also have 10 marks and 20 touches in a game if you need him to is what makes him so versatile. He is a great get.

 

[Scotland]

Interesting that WC seem to have chosen our picks to take given I'm not sure Carlton have got better over this trade period

Maybe we're not finished giving them stuff. We can still pick swap pick 12 for a future 4th or something,

 

[amazingjoshy]

Interesting that WC seem to have chosen our picks to take given I'm not sure Carlton have got better over this trade period

Definitely worse

They lost superstar Matt Owies

 

[Jeremias]

 

[Scotland]

Watch now as pick 14 becomes a superstar for Freo, Hawthorn finish top 4 and Carlton go full Carlton.

 

[cdcanman]

Barrass is the cornerstone. As expected in a trade thread TB has been criminally underrated but he is first and foremost a genuine key position player.

Sicily is listed as 186cm 87kg, Battle 193cm 92kg. TB is 196cm 96kg and easily the best defender of the 3. The fact he can also have 10 marks and 20 touches in a game if you need him to is what makes him so versatile. He is a great get.

Yep.
They have all bases covered now with Barrass. As good as their defence was last season, they could occasionally be exposed by the really big forwards. The 200cm guys. Frost had the 2 best years of his career the past couple. But Barrass is obviously an upgrade.
The interesting question for mine is how it changes things structurally for Hawthorn down back. I don't buy the playing all of Frost, Barrass and Battle talk. Even if they do try it early, it won't last long IMO. So even if Frost drops out, they are still playing an extra tall as compared to last season. Barrass, Battle, Sicily, Scrimshaw and Weddle as tallish options is a lot of height. Their mobility and run was such a strength, I'm interested to see how it works back their. Not saying it won't, I'm just curious. Sicily, Scrimshaw and Weddle still provide some run despite being capable talls(ish). All are at least reasonable, and a couple are outstanding ball users
Good problem to have. Both Weddle and Sicily are obviously pretty versatile but ideally I would think they'll still want Sicily back. It may put pressure on Gunston at the other end if one of Sicily or or Weddle end up forward

 

[TallyHawk]

2 x 1st rounders was delusional from the eagles fans

They could have had #14 in a much better draft and a 2nd rounder

Yep, they shit the bed


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[fnerd]

eagles got fleeced again, gee their new bloke and Pykie aren’t much chop at this trading thing are they

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Two Firsts


What a bunch of muppets

 

[TallyHawk]

Excited about death riding Blues in 2025.


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[Coasters7]

Made out like absolute bandits given it’s the Hawks picks. A full draft hand including what could possibly be a top 10 pick if the Hawks regress next year for an injured and ageing (although still very good) player.

 

[Coasters7]

Two Firsts

You caved and handed over an entire draft hand. Will be good fun death riding you blokes next season

 

[Monocle]

Two Firsts

One first take it or leave it, old player with a rooted back.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

You caved and handed over an entire draft hand. Will be good fun death riding you blokes next season

Still have one

Off to the spoon dork

 

[Coasters7]

Still have one

Off to the spoon dork

You have the worst of the two and no firsts this year. Essentially traded your own F1 (which could well be an early pick) and F3 for Barrass. Much better than 14 on its own.

 

[Dont_be_a_Plonka]

One first take it or leave it, old player with a rooted back.

Cost us pick 14 and a downgrade next season from 54-56

 

[hawkman]

You have the worst of the two and no firsts this year. Essentially traded your own F1 (which could well be an early pick) and F3 for Barrass. Much better than 14 on its own.

How early do you think it could be? I would argue we have improved our list while Carlton have weakened their team for next year

 

[killerspud]

You caved and handed over an entire draft hand. Will be good fun death riding you blokes next season

We're not going back. So many of our younger players got games into them - the only thing lacked was a genuine key defender which we made up by using intercept defenders in the role - now they will be free - the mids will get better and we get Mitch Lewis back to lead the forward line - should have chosen the Blues picks - we are not going back

 

[BIGHAWK23]

You have the worst of the two and no firsts this year. Essentially traded your own F1 (which could well be an early pick) and F3 for Barrass. Much better than 14 on its own.

Keep the justification

You choked

 

[Coasters7]

How early do you think it could be? I would argue we have improved our list while Carlton have weakened their team for next year

I don’t think it’ll be any later than 14, so from our pov that’s already a huge win, plus we banked the second on top. Original deal was 14 and F3 I think, so we’ve come out well ahead of that. F*cked the pick 3 trade but this one I think we’ve won.

 

[Coasters7]

Keep the justification

You choked

How lmao? The deal we ended up with is better than the original offer a week ago.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Keep the justification

You choked

We wont know until next year. If Hawthorn fall out of the top 8 Eagles win, if Hawthorn win the flag or go very close, Hawthorn win

 

[CobberRodgers]

I don’t think it’ll be any later than 14, so from our pov that’s already a huge win, plus we banked the second on top. Original deal was 14 and F3 I think, so we’ve come out well ahead of that. F*cked the pick 3 trade but this one I think we’ve won.

“Two firsts or he stays”