Recommitted Tom Papley [wanted to return to Victoria, nominated Carlton - didn't get there]

[Bostonian]

and that adds value to Wood how?

So he is injured most of the time but when he isn't you can expect a massive 1.2 goals a game from him.

Well if you read the quote properly I was suggesting Papley is worth far more than Wood due to Wood not being reliable.

 

[pupstar]

and that adds value to Wood how?

So he is injured most of the time but when he isn't you can expect a massive 1.2 goals a game from him.

Over Woods career he averages 1.3 goals per game, Papley 1.5 per game. Lets say they both play 20 games for the season that will be 36 goals for Wood 40 for Papley. Not A GREAT DIFFERANCE OVER THE YEAR 4 GOALS.

 

[Membling]

He's not a tweener, he's a 3rd tall forward and I think that he's played that position forever?

That's fine if you don't need him & have plenty of his type, that just means his trade value to Sydney is minimal - that doesn't mean he's no good or his trade value elsewhere is as low as you've assessed it.

Not sure of your last point, I'm not advocating for packaging players with average draft picks because they had a match winning game against one team in particular? I just said Wood was a potential match winner and has had a few games that he has torn apart.

That position is the definition of a tweener. Not a KPF/KPD nor a small or HBF. From memory has been used between both back and fwd so maybe more of a swing man, but would not say he has made either his own.

His value is probably around pick 30 - 40 maybe more for a team in need and less for one that isn't.

The thing with value, especially in terms of trade, is team need. Sydney's team need is for inside/outside mids or contested bulls. Sydney would probably have him valued lowly as is a low list need.

Last point is more at a jab at another poster saying how if x player is a match winner their value is more. That is true only if done constantly and then did an approximate trade of what roos fan continue to suggest is fair in the Cameron exchange.

All things said and done, I would put papleys actual value from about 12-16.

He is in top 5 small fwds, contracted, in leadership group and shown to be able to run in middle. As such sydney should ask for a premium

 

[pupstar]

Good post mate like you say the value goes up as the requirement is needed.

 

[replicant]

Perfect timing.

Comments? Insights? Seeing as you are clearly inner sanctum?

Pair of key position Roos linked to moves out the door

"Hearing he’ll look for more opportunity as well."

www.sen.com.au

So we know a little more now...

Sam Edmund reads Big Footy.

 

[branedotorg]

If mason wood was any good there's be at least one north fan not wanting to swap him.

 

[replicant]

Over Woods career he averages 1.3 goals per game, Papley 1.5 per game. Lets say they both play 20 games for the season that will be 36 goals for Wood 40 for Papley. Not A GREAT DIFFERANCE OVER THE YEAR 4 GOALS.

Don't take career though, this season Papley is averaging 1.7 and wood 1.2. Over 20 games that is 34 to 24, which is a much more significant number.

 

[RUNVS]

Over Woods career he averages 1.3 goals per game, Papley 1.5 per game. Lets say they both play 20 games for the season that will be 36 goals for Wood 40 for Papley. Not A GREAT DIFFERANCE OVER THE YEAR 4 GOALS.

You can't use stats over their careers when one player is significantly younger than the other.

 

[Tedeski]

Contracted

 

[Pykie]

He is averaging 1.2 goals this year, which isn't much more than Blakey and Blakey is a first year player.

1.2 goals per game for a forward really is not a lot.

Great.

Tom Papley isn't averaging much more than a rookie listed younger, bigger, stronger, Cam Zurhaar either.

2 x first rounders his value?


As far as 1.2 goals a game, yes he's averaged that this year competing with Brown (2.95), Larkey (1.56), Zurhaar (1.44).

He averaged 1.7, 1.5, 1.4 the previous 3 seasons.....

 

[Pykie]

You can't possibly think Wood is a valuable commodity...please tell me this is a troll or are you just that delusional?

Papley is 10 times the player Wood is.

Wood is almost 26 and still only shows 'glimpses'. Let's have a look at the games he's played in the last 5 years counting backwards from this year: 17, 13, 10, 8, 7...not even getting a player who is best 22 at North, i know he's been dropped a lot over the years.

Average player + 2nd rounder does not equal gun player.

Actually, average player and a low second rounder does = gun player.

Everyone is going ballistic for me essentially rating Wood for pick 40.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Actually, average player and a low second rounder does = gun player.

Everyone is going ballistic for me essentially rating Wood for pick 40.

Don’t use the points system. It’s useless outside bidding.

 

[Pykie]

Don’t use the points system. It’s useless outside bidding.

So important for a side likely to have a top 10 2020 academy prospect being bid on?

 

[Orange Agent]

2nd rounder and McMillan, we don’t really need him, he Isco abrite but not what we desperately need atm. We need speed player who can play I need the center square I.e Daniel wells,

Tarryn Thomas?

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

So important for a side likely to have a top 10 2020 academy prospect being bid on?

Papley for 1/2 of a 2020 academy bid and Mason Wood. Sounds enticing.

 

[pupstar]

You can't use stats over their careers when one player is significantly younger than the other.

Why is that ? To be honest stats can be misleading on numerous counts that is why in many circumstances they should not be used at all. Why did you use the stat 1.2 goals for Wood in the first place only because it suited your opinion.

 

[NonPhixion]

Papley is a jet. Worth a 1st round pick all day long. Anything less is laughable

 

[pupstar]

Don't take career though, this season Papley is averaging 1.7 and wood 1.2. Over 20 games that is 34 to 24, which is a much more significant number.

Like I said stats can and will be used to advantage the situation. I used career stats to bridge the gap you used this years stats to widen the gap. That is why they are not always a good indicator.

 

[Bald]

Would give our first and second at the very least. Absolute jet.

 

[mpal6]

North supporters don't want to pay but arguing about all the rest rating Papley at fair value. Must be annoying for them.

 

[Shermanator]

Loved how Paps pulled up since the bye to drop his trade value for us.

Ultimate team man, Shinboner in the making.

 

[Shermanator]

If mason wood was any good there's be at least one north fan not wanting to swap him.

He’s a star and is going nowhere.

There ya go champ.

 

[Brezsa]

I find it strange that Carlton supporters are the ones being reasonable, we are normally nuts. But basically every Carlton supporter posting has said Papley is worth a first & it’s North supporters being unreasonable.

For the record he is worth a 1st round pick, easily. Then because he is contracted their needs to be a sweetener (upgraded pick or a 3rd rounder for Sydney)

Good luck North if you think Mason Wood & a second gets it done, Sydney is a professional club, you will be disappointed

 

[the rooboy]

I find it strange that Carlton supporters are the ones being reasonable, we are normally nuts. But basically every Carlton supporter posting has said Papley is worth a first & it’s North supporters being unreasonable.

For the record he is worth a 1st round pick, easily. Then because he is contracted their needs to be a sweetener (upgraded pick or a 3rd rounder for Sydney)

Good luck North if you think Mason Wood & a second gets it done, Sydney is a professional club, you will be disappointed

Lol I’d say the bulldogs supporters have been reasonable not Carlton supporters have a look at a certain poster that’s been a outright flog


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[Brezsa]

Lol I’d say the bulldogs supporters have been reasonable not Carlton supporters have a look at a certain poster that’s been a outright flog


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I only see pie in the Sky comments from North supporters