Recommitted Tom Papley [wanted to return to Victoria, nominated Carlton - didn't get there]

[Juzzk1d]

Word is Angus Brayshaw for a package of Papley and Z Jones. Watch this space.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

It seems Blues fans are just a little dirty if this thread is anything to go by, considering there's 10 pages of Tom Papley instances within the search function on their team board.

It seems most had locked him into their best 22 for 2020 for the last month.

I think you guys need to concentrate on the "Cogs" thread with the Hawks supporters so that 2020 best 22 doesn't change too much on the team board...

Just seems we as supporters have a better grasp of what is required to get deals done for valuable in demand players.

Wood and a 2nd is the equivalent of Polson and a 2nd. Laughable.

Still more likely to come to Carlton than North FWIW. But will most likely be a Swan.

 

[Membling]

Word is Angus Brayshaw for a package of Papley and Z Jones. Watch this space.

What picks involved?

 

[CheapCharlie]

Did you miss this line?

"There's not a whole lot of difference here other than the games played column, which is where Sydney will be compensated if this deal eventuates."

I'd value Papley as worth a pick in the low teens.

Wood + a pick in the mid 20's is about right imo, which values Wood at pick 40, which is unders from what North would request in a straight trade for him.

Mason Wood is a spud who North want to offload

Paps is an immediate selection we want to keep

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Word is Angus Brayshaw for a package of Papley and Z Jones. Watch this space.

Lol what a load of horse shite.That is even worse than the laughable North 'offer'.

If you are going to make up rumours, least try concoct one that is semi plausible, not one written in fantasy island.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

It seems Blues fans are just a little dirty if this thread is anything to go by, considering there's 10 pages of Tom Papley instances within the search function on their team board.

It seems most had locked him into their best 22 for 2020 for the last month.

I think you guys need to concentrate on the "Cogs" thread with the Hawks supporters so that 2020 best 22 doesn't change too much on the team board...

Honestly don't care if we don't get Papley. But your trade suggestion is clearly ridiculous and that is why you are copping stick over it.

Stop trying to act like a used car saleman's over Mason Wood. No other supporters around the league rate him.

 

[ozzyoslo]

If Wood is a Spud, so is McGovern, Silvagni and any number of Carlton players he has a better AFL record than.


What is fair value, Rhyce Shaws first born son?

Are we confusing Papley with Steve Johnson or Robbie Gray in their primes are we?

I think he's legitimately worth a pick in the early-mid teens. I don't think that value is too hard to work back from. If Sydney wan't 2 x first rounders, that's fine, but he's only contracted for 1 more year.....

Pykie you've gotta stop mate.....................youre making too much sense for bigfooty here.

 

[HFF]

2 first rounders?
Faaark me it’s getting dumber every off season.

 

[F_therest]

Did you miss this line?

"There's not a whole lot of difference here other than the games played column, which is where Sydney will be compensated if this deal eventuates."

I'd value Papley as worth a pick in the low teens.

Wood + a pick in the mid 20's is about right imo, which values Wood at pick 40, which is unders from what North would request in a straight trade for him.

Mason Wood is about to turn 26 and he's still riding on his 'potential' like he was 20.

 

[F_therest]

If Wood is a Spud, so is McGovern, Silvagni and any number of Carlton players he has a better AFL record than.


What is fair value, Rhyce Shaws first born son?

Are we confusing Papley with Steve Johnson or Robbie Gray in their primes are we?

I think he's legitimately worth a pick in the early-mid teens. I don't think that value is too hard to work back from. If Sydney wan't 2 x first rounders, that's fine, but he's only contracted for 1 more year.....

You can't possibly think Wood is a valuable commodity...please tell me this is a troll or are you just that delusional?

Papley is 10 times the player Wood is.

Wood is almost 26 and still only shows 'glimpses'. Let's have a look at the games he's played in the last 5 years counting backwards from this year: 17, 13, 10, 8, 7...not even getting a player who is best 22 at North, i know he's been dropped a lot over the years.

Average player + 2nd rounder does not equal gun player.

 

[Wayne Swan]

Meeting? What meeting? Tom Harley came out strongly last week and said the Swans rang North to say they had NOT contacted either Wood or his manager and that the Swans had no interest in Wood.

Wood is 26 and shown occasional glimpses and is NOT the type of player we require.

I'll say it again, if Papley IS the player North want then they need to pay overs to get him released from his contract. The only thing vaguely floated as a reason Papley MAY want to go to Melbourne is a girlfriend. Well by this time next year he may have a better Sydney based girlfriend and be penning a five year contract at the Swans.

Also, it's a well known flaw of so many posters on here to think that adding marginal players to deals gets them over the line, in the real world of AFL trading it doesn't, it just adds list clogging weight to the trading out club.

Wood is close to being a list clogger in the opinion of most non North supporters, only those North BF traders rate him, the guy produces occasionally and is best known for long stints in the medical room.

Carlton traders, we can talk sense with your Crows pick on the table.

BTW, we have dibs on Rhyce Shaw's first born son, and all his other offspring, Rhyce played over 100 games for the Swans, only 98 for the Pies.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Meeting? What meeting? Tom Harley came out strongly last week and said the Swans rang North to say they had NOT contacted either Wood or his manager and that the Swans had no interest in Wood.

Wood is 26 and shown occasional glimpses and is NOT the type of player we require.

I'll say it again, if Papley IS the player North want then they need to pay overs to get him released from his contract. The only thing vaguely floated as a reason Papley MAY want to go to Melbourne is a girlfriend. Well by this time next year he may have a better Sydney based girlfriend and be penning a five year contract at the Swans.

Also, it's a well known flaw of so many posters on here to think that adding marginal players to deals gets them over the line, in the real world of AFL trading it doesn't, it just adds list clogging weight to the trading out club.

Wood is close to being a list clogger in the opinion of most non North supporters, only those North BF traders rate him, the guy produces occasionally and is best known for long stints in the medical room.

Carlton traders, we can talk sense with your Crows pick on the table.

BTW, we have dibs on Rhyce Shaw's first born son, and all his other offspring, Rhyce played over 100 games for the Swans, only 98 for the Pies.

Would our first round pick and a future second round pick and a third rounder interest the Swans ? Can't think of any fringe players on our list The Swans would want..

 

[SickQwon]

Hmmm, Adelaide's Pick 9 or Mason Wood + 3rd rounder?

Would be a tough one for Swan fans to consider...

 

[theblengus]

My co-worker reckons Melbourne could get Papley for Preuss and a 3rd Rounder.

Skeptical of that myself, but what do Sydney fans think?

 

[Membling]

My co-worker reckons Melbourne could get Papley for Preuss and a 3rd Rounder.

Skeptical of that myself, but what do Sydney fans think?

Maybe Pruess for our forth rounder...

Papley for pruess and third would be monumentally bad trade for swans

 

[RUNVS]

My co-worker reckons Melbourne could get Papley for Preuss and a 3rd Rounder.

Skeptical of that myself, but what do Sydney fans think?

I prefer Carlton's potential offer but to be honest I would not be against a deal that lands us Preuss as the Swans are in desperate need of a ruckman. Other than Naismith we don't have any good tap ruckmen on our list and Naismith is injured more often than not.

 

[theblengus]

Maybe Pruess for our forth rounder...

Papley for pruess and third would be monumentally bad trade for swans

Thought that myself, don't think Preuss has anywhere near that sort of currency at this point in time

 

[Red Bull]

There’s a strong chance Carlton could finish with pick 7 after the weekends games.
Reckon that’s fair value for a contracted Papley considering Cameron cost Brisbane pick 12 which some said was overs.
With rumblings of Daniher to Sydney, pick 7 would go a long way towards achieving that.

 

[Oraaaaazio]

Think Blues & Swans fans underselling Wood in here. Think he's a good player, potential match winner albeit injury prone & inconsistent. Maybe not worth a straight swap but he's definitely not the dud de-listing fodder that everyone seems to be portraying him as?? He's too good for state level footy.

 

[Groucho]

Think Blues & Swans fans underselling Wood in here. Think he's a good player, potential match winner albeit injury prone & inconsistent. Maybe not worth a straight swap but he's definitely not the dud de-listing fodder that everyone seems to be portraying him as?? He's too good for state level footy.

Yes, Swans fans seem to have forgotten that Wood was actually a match winner against them just last year.

 

[RUNVS]

Yes, Swans fans seem to have forgotten that Wood was actually a match winner against them just last year.

He is averaging 1.2 goals this year, which isn't much more than Blakey and Blakey is a first year player.

1.2 goals per game for a forward really is not a lot.

 

[Membling]

Think Blues & Swans fans underselling Wood in here. Think he's a good player, potential match winner albeit injury prone & inconsistent. Maybe not worth a straight swap but he's definitely not the dud de-listing fodder that everyone seems to be portraying him as?? He's too good for state level footy.

There is also the fact he is a tweener that has not cemented down one spot and has had a few injuries over the past four year.

We also have players like Hayward, Dawson, Heeney and Blakey who all float through the fwd line.

He is simply not a player that we need. In fact, McKay would offer more value than Wood to us with our list structure.

Also we should really bundle up a second round pick and Reid for Cameron cause Reid is tall and seems to be a match winner against them

 

[Bostonian]

Wood is way under value compared to Papley, a close to 40 goals small forward with pace and skill. A third rounder added in won't get it done.

That's because this is the first season he's managed to play close to a full season in 6 seasons in the AFL.

Papley has missed 6 games in 4 seasons. Papley stays on the park.

 

[RUNVS]

That's because this is the first season he's managed to play close to a full season in 6 seasons in the AFL.

Papley has missed 6 games in 4 seasons. Papley stays on the park.

and that adds value to Wood how?

So he is injured most of the time but when he isn't you can expect a massive 1.2 goals a game from him.

 

[Oraaaaazio]

There is also the fact he is a tweener that has not cemented down one spot and has had a few injuries over the past four year.

We also have players like Hayward, Dawson, Heeney and Blakey who all float through the fwd line.

He is simply not a player that we need. In fact, McKay would offer more value than Wood to us with our list structure.

Also we should really bundle up a second round pick and Reid for Cameron cause Reid is tall and seems to be a match winner against them

He's not a tweener, he's a 3rd tall forward and I think that he's played that position forever?

That's fine if you don't need him & have plenty of his type, that just means his trade value to Sydney is minimal - that doesn't mean he's no good or his trade value elsewhere is as low as you've assessed it.

Not sure of your last point, I'm not advocating for packaging players with average draft picks because they had a match winning game against one team in particular? I just said Wood was a potential match winner and has had a few games that he has torn apart.