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i cant see him going down in performance, the only way his going is up!!! i think some people are to scared to agree that the tigers are going to be a very dominate side within the next 5 years. the tigers average 41 games per player going into next year. even more inexperienced then the suns are! the sleeping tiger has awoke. we have a young side of guns
i cant see him going down in performance, the only way his going is up!!! i think some people are to scared to agree that the tigers are going to be a very dominate side within the next 5 years. the tigers average 41 games per player going into next year. even more inexperienced then the suns are! the sleeping tiger has awoke. we have a young side of guns
Of course the whole concept of this thread is based in speculation.
But you have to draw conclusions from results at AFL level for the most part, otherwise the discussion just becomes bias and overestimations of junior years.
I do realise the irony of saying bias when I'm talking up Jack, but the fact of the matter is he won the Coleman, a B&F and All Australian selection this year, which is above and beyond any of the achievements of any other player in this bracket.
So comments of 'he might die down' and so forth, while true, are pretty pointless in a discussion based in speculation. Gotta look at the most telling factors, and on those Jack is, if not 1st, top 5 easily.
Taking paulvroc's comments, you gotta look at the most telling factors, you finished 15th. The chances are Richmond are only going to go up but of course there are no guarantees.
Richmond have a handful of young guns, Cotchin, Martin, Riewoldt - but a lot of fodder in between.
Hannabal
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It's a futile thread with poor parameters.
I am surpised to see many without Jack Trengove. He played the whole season as an 18 year old and having watched him closely I won't be at all surprised if he finishes his career as the best midfielder mentioned in this thread.
Our best ten 22 and unders:
Scully
Watts
Trengove
Frawley
Jurrah
Grimes
Morton
Gysberts
Garland
McKenzie
Apologies to:
Petterd
Blease
Bennell
Wonaeamirri
Tapscott
I am surpised to see many without Jack Trengove. He played the whole season as an 18 year old and having watched him closely I won't be at all surprised if he finishes his career as the best midfielder mentioned in this thread.
Our best ten 22 and unders:
Scully
Watts
Trengove
Frawley
Jurrah
Grimes
Morton
Gysberts
Garland
McKenzie
Apologies to:
Petterd
Blease
Bennell
Wonaeamirri
Tapscott
He won the coleman dude. Not many u-22s can claim that, if any.
And I can see improvement. Sure, when we develop other targets, he'll get less focus, he'll also get less attention, and hopefully more inside 50s, which counterbalances. Plus, he should improve his consistency, his bulk and his skills.
I'd say a lot of clubs have fodder in their lists, including yours.
Absolutely and it's a reflection on the team's ladder position.
I think it was implied that I was talking about current u-22s, since this is a thread.... comparing current u-22s (and it's not a bad list either).
Bulk could decrease his athleticism but then again, he said that he's been tired after every match because he doesn't have the conditioning and training. He'll get that soon. Either way, he has one tool that I don't think will disappear: he's a great pack mark.
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It's a futile thread with poor parameters.
I am surpised to see many without Jack Trengove. He played the whole season as an 18 year old and having watched him closely I won't be at all surprised if he finishes his career as the best midfielder mentioned in this thread.
Our best ten 22 and unders:
Scully
Watts
Trengove
Frawley
Jurrah
Grimes
Morton
Gysberts
Garland
McKenzie
Apologies to:
Petterd
Blease
Bennell
Wonaeamirri
Tapscott
I saw a bit of Melbourne but not enough to make big statements on a kid like him, what attributes does Trengove have that will make him number 1 mid?
Hannabal
Club Legend
I'll be disappointed and surprised if he's not a better version of Jimmy Bartel. And that's no knock on Bartel because I rate him highly. I think many supporters forget the first few years of some of the games stars and think that they've always been good, but the facts are that most started out quite slowly; which is very understandable.
Trengove is a very very smart footy player. He's got great skills and is a really good mark for a mid, in the Bartel mould. He's not express, but his pace is fine and he's tough. Trengove will be an aggressive, strong over the ball mid. He's a good size at 185cms and as I said in my post he played the entire year as an 18 year old.
He's the classiest teen onballer I've seen at Melb since Gerard Healy. He's different to Scully and at a pinch I'd favour Scully, but I really rate Trengove. He had a quiet last third of the year after a minor injury.
He also has elite endurance (top 3 at the club already).
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TAC Cup hardly counts.
If that's a rhetorical question, you're exactly right.
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just with regard to his pace, i read somewhere he had a 20m sprint time of 2.93 so i wouldn't be suprised if we see some pace after his body gets used to the weight gain
i agree, TAC cup doesn't count
however there was a bloke who looked remarkably like sidebottom who was one of the pies few good players in GF1 and BOG together with jolly for mine in GF2
most players being thrown up in this thread are being done so based on potential. sidebottom has already done it in big matches on the biggest of stages. some of the players being mentioned may well turn out to be big time performers, some will no doubt disappoint. collingwood know they have a big game star after 2 years in the system
Trengove for mine seems to have it all. He's a good size, athletic, poised. Can really find the footy, seems to make great decisions when he has it. Disposal is absolutely pinpoint. Has proven big game temperament at SANFL level, seems a level headed professional young man. I would take him over any other midfielder that's been talked up in this thread (except Hill
Question for Melbourne fans, re Morton, has he played many really good games? I keep hearing how great he's going to be but so far haven't seen him do anything that suggests he's going to live up to his billing. Not saying he's no good just that he appears a touch overrated at this point.
1 - Jett Buckley
2 - Ayce Buckley
3 - Steele Sidebottom
4 - Ben Reid
5 - Dustin Martin
6 - Tom Scully
7 - Cyril Rioli
8 - Jack Trengove
9 - Jack Riewoldt
10 - Ben Cunnington
2 - Ayce Buckley
3 - Steele Sidebottom
4 - Ben Reid
5 - Dustin Martin
6 - Tom Scully
7 - Cyril Rioli
8 - Jack Trengove
9 - Jack Riewoldt
10 - Ben Cunnington
ThePuppetMaster
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Trengove for mine seems to have it all. He's a good size, athletic, poised. Can really find the footy, seems to make great decisions when he has it. Disposal is absolutely pinpoint. Has proven big game temperament at SANFL level, seems a level headed professional young man. I would take him over any other midfielder that's been talked up in this thread (except Hill
Question for Melbourne fans, re Morton, has he played many really good games? I keep hearing how great he's going to be but so far haven't seen him do anything that suggests he's going to live up to his billing. Not saying he's no good just that he appears a touch overrated at this point.
Im not sure about Morton, a year ago i would have said he was a certainty to become a good player, yet with another pre season and very little weight gain im starting to question his work ethic, surely the fitness staff wouldn't hold back his development for 3 years???
He had a fairly major injury this year from memory, and looked a bit unfit and lethargic on the field... i think next year will be his defining season, but he certainly has potential to be a very good player
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Fixed it for you bro.
The Goon
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You've greatly overrrated Tommy Hird IMO, has no work ethic. Brother William is much better, but still not top 10, possibly 16-20? Alex the only genuine star of the bunch.
ThePuppetMaster
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Lachie Salmon?? massive lulz at that
wasn't even that good in the APS
(i know you are joking btw)
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As per usual this is a fairly vic centric set of lists coming through, but with all the love for Reid & Pears I am still surprised that after 246 post not one person has mentioned Phil Davis. Yes he is from Adelaide but he did remarkably well including being the one of two players to hold Nick Riewoldt goaless in 2010 (the other game being the second GF).
He definitely should have been mentioned by someone else before now.
Hill
Riewoldt
Gibbs
Sidebottom
Kreuzer
Rioli
Martin
Shuey
Grimes
Ward
Fyfe/Hannebery/Rockliff unlucky
* I deliberately left out any players from Adelaide the only ones that I would through up for contention are Walker, Davis or Dangerfield but I would probably only consider having one in there.
He definitely should have been mentioned by someone else before now.
Hill
Riewoldt
Gibbs
Sidebottom
Kreuzer
Rioli
Martin
Shuey
Grimes
Ward
Fyfe/Hannebery/Rockliff unlucky
* I deliberately left out any players from Adelaide the only ones that I would through up for contention are Walker, Davis or Dangerfield but I would probably only consider having one in there.
The Goon
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Too early to say that IMO - yes he was amazing for a first year player, but will he continue to develop and will he have his head in the right space? I hope so. He sure is getting a lot of love on this thread.
Had a bit of time so I ended up glancing at each club's list, I ended up with 27 guys that I reckon will be really good footballers.
1. Tom Scully
2. Jack Riewoldt
3. Stephen Hill
4. Michael Hurley
5. Cyril Rioli
6. Matthew Kreuzer
7. Patrick Dangerfield
8. Nic Naitanui
9. Bryce Gibbs
10. Trent Cotchin
After that, I had; Martin, Watts, Sidebottom, Grimes, Trengove, Morabito, Hannebery, Pears, Shuey, Rich
And slightly after them, this time in no order; Davis, Reid, Myers, Fyfe, Ziebell, Ward, Grant.
1. Tom Scully
2. Jack Riewoldt
3. Stephen Hill
4. Michael Hurley
5. Cyril Rioli
6. Matthew Kreuzer
7. Patrick Dangerfield
8. Nic Naitanui
9. Bryce Gibbs
10. Trent Cotchin
After that, I had; Martin, Watts, Sidebottom, Grimes, Trengove, Morabito, Hannebery, Pears, Shuey, Rich
And slightly after them, this time in no order; Davis, Reid, Myers, Fyfe, Ziebell, Ward, Grant.
Hannabal
Club Legend
As stated, he was 18 for all of this year.
He played some very good games, but didn't have one game where he starred. He played 18 games for the year and in half of those he had 20 possessions or more; and he uses it well, so, as stated, there were plenty of good games for a first year player, but not a vote grabbing game. I thought his best two were against Port in Darwin and the round 5 win over Brisbane.
To put it in perspective, he had a far better first year than Sidebottom, Hannebery, etc. I like Sidebottom and he had a very good second year, but let's revisit some of these players in 3-4 years.
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