List Mgmt. Trade and F/A 2020 Cont’d

MarkT2 · Nov 12, 2020

PieBeast said:
Knew it was coming but my worst case scenario was about 5 times better.

Unfortunately that was naive and optimistic. If everyone knows you are desperate and without option you have no bargaining power.
That's a result of incompetence to a level that more than just can't be hidden but has to be exposed to achieve the result.

It's bad enough that we arsed up the list management so badly, but it's worse because we had to be open and bare our arse to get players out for such bargains.

It's a deceased estate auction for a bankrupt in a recession on steroids.

mike123 · Nov 12, 2020

Gabbo64 said:
Why?

Because he’s a poor footballer

Scritchyscroony · Nov 12, 2020

Gabbo64 said:
Why?

Well for starters he played the first year in the 2's, then had to be reinvented from the role we got him for because he was no good at it (we might've had better options for a winger but we were stuck with him). Played one good season in a team that was flying. Been fringe best 22 ever since.. Is old.. no upside... LIST CLOGGER all bar 1 year!

deskc · Nov 12, 2020

Collingwood tells as many lies as the andrews government. So treloar is closer to his wife, moving to the bulldogs. It will take him 20 less minutes to get to the airport

Magnanimous · Nov 12, 2020

Chrispiesssss said:
HAHAHAHAHAHAH. This is a good joke. Fed from top? You would think the coach would have a mighty say on whether he wants a player to stay or not.

He didn’t have much of a say with players coming in over the years, what makes you think he gets to say who stays too?

On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

Jafo · Nov 12, 2020

Anymore questions by anyone here about Collingwood and or players should just be greeted with, “it’s all part of the plan.”

AndrewShawble · Nov 12, 2020

No SPIN said:
Obviously the catastrophist are trembling at the thought of having another adversary to deal with.

What do you make of today Spinner?

Give us something to laugh at and cheer us up

mike123 · Nov 12, 2020

Scritchyscroony said:
Well for starters he played the first year in the 2's, then had to be reinvented from the role we got him for because he was no good at it (we might've had better options for a winger but we were stuck with him). Played one good season in a team that was flying. Been fringe best 22 ever since.. Is old.. no upside... LIST CLOGGER all bar 1 year!

You’re being generous calling his 2018 good.

Chrispiesssss · Nov 12, 2020

Magnanimous said:
He didn’t have much of a say with players coming in over the years, what makes you think he gets to say who stays too?

On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

He didn’t have much of a say? How do you know this?

Treloar and Aish specifically wanted to play for Bucks.

foreigner · Nov 12, 2020

Jen2310 said:

This is the biggest betrayal a coach can to do a player. It seems like they didn't even have a review session after the season, and Stevo had to call Bucks to know what is happening. What a pathetic way to treat a young player. Side by side ... my a**.

I don't think I can support this club in good conscience anymore. Until there is change ... Ed, Bucks, Harvey, Ned, Sando ... all need to go. The next time Ed or Bucks say the words, side by side they should be rotten egged.

Chrispiesssss · Nov 12, 2020

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Tom Lynch made a good decision not coming to us.

MarkT2 · Nov 12, 2020

Apex36 said:
To be fair, there’s no spin in that. At least he admitted that these players didn’t want to leave and had to be ‘managed’ out of the club. Not like the bullshit Guy was trying to spin.
Im not sure that any of our administrators have handled this maturely or competently though. Change is needed. Funnily enough, the last time I felt this way was 20 odd years ago just before Eddie took over. I really want Kelly to challenge for the presidency now.

Kelly? No way in hell he challenges his mate Eddie and in any case his son on on the list.
What we need is someone not connected to playing for or working for Collingwood that will hire the experts to do their job competently.

Jafo · Nov 12, 2020

Black_White said:
Might not get a game.
And even then, we will still be paying part of his salary!

Wouldn’t have blamed him (if the dialogue about the club shopping him out was correct) if he stayed and basically played sh*t to stay in the Magoos and still got paid.

magpies42 · Nov 12, 2020

stevebbb said:
OUTS: Beams, Reid, Varcoe, Dunn, Shaz, Broomy, Treloar, Stevo, Phillips, Atu
INS: Picks 14, 16, 65, 70, 75, 92

Has to be a plan to pick up a delisted free agent or 2.

Sam Skinner

31

Sam Skinner

Age
27

Ht

197cm

Wt
99kg

Pos.
D/F

Career

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9.0

2

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101.0

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9.0

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4.0

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5.0

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1.0

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101.0

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Hugh Goddard

45

Hugh Goddard

Age
28

Ht

198cm

Wt
94kg

Pos.
Def

Career

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Last 5

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9.5

2

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3.5

1

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6.0

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2.9

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1.1

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13.6

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4.6

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Darcy Lang

16

Darcy Lang

Age
29

Ht

183cm

Wt
83kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
13.1

3

K
7.4

3

HB
5.7

4

M
3.3

3

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3.4

5

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0.7

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4.0

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2.0

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2.0

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0.0

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1.0

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11.2

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5.8

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5.4

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Mitch Hibberd
Tom North
Brandon Matera

3

Brandon Matera

Age
32

Ht

175cm

Wt
76kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

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14.4

4

K
9.9

4

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4.5

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3.7

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2.3

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1.3

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6.3

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5.0

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1.3

1

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2.0

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2.5

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0.8

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D
11.8

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7.4

3

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4.4

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M
2.2

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2.4

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1.4

5

James Parsons

34

James Parsons

Age
27

Ht

190cm

Wt
82kg

Pos.
Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.8

3

K
6.0

2

HB
5.8

4

M
2.5

3

T
2.3

4

CL
0.7

3

No current season stats available

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14.4

4

K
6.0

3

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8.4

5

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2.4

3

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2.0

4

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0.2

2

Will Golds
Darren Minchington

38

Darren Minchington

Age
31

Ht

179cm

Wt
81kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.0

3

K
5.3

2

HB
5.8

4

M
2.3

2

T
3.2

5

G
0.7

4

D
12.0

3

K
6.0

2

HB
6.0

3

M
2.0

2

T
1.0

2

G
0.0

1

D
9.0

3

K
6.0

3

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3.0

3

M
3.0

3

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1.2

3

G
1.2

4

Kyle Dunkley

48

Kyle Dunkley

Age
24

Ht

185cm

Wt
84kg

Pos.
M/F

Career

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Last 5

D
9.6

2

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6.8

3

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2.8

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4.4

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2.0

4

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0.6

3

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9.6

3

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6.8

3

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2.8

3

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4.4

4

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2.0

4

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0.6

3

Paul Ahern

15

Paul Ahern

Age
28

Ht

183cm

Wt
85kg

Pos.
D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D
17.5

4

K
9.6

4

HB
7.9

5

M
2.3

2

T
1.7

4

MG
296.8

4

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4.0

1

K
3.0

1

HB
1.0

1

M
1.0

1

T
0.0

1

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20.4

5

K
9.6

4

HB
10.8

5

M
3.0

3

T
2.4

4

MG
334.4

5

Majak Daw

28

Majak Daw

Age
33

Ht

195cm

Wt
97kg

Pos.
D/R

Career

Season

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D
9.3

2

K
5.7

2

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3.5

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3.7

4

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2.9

4

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8.2

2

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5.8

3

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2.4

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3.2

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2.0

4

Lachie Hosie
Mason Wood

32

Mason Wood

Age
31

Ht

192cm

Wt
86kg

Pos.
M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D
13.2

3

K
7.8

3

HB
5.4

4

M
4.0

4

T
2.2

4

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0.3

2

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8.3

2

K
2.7

1

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5.7

3

M
1.7

2

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1.3

2

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0.0

1

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15.8

4

K
8.6

4

HB
7.2

5

M
4.6

5

T
2.6

4

CL
0.6

3

Riley Grundy
Logan Austin

24

Logan Austin

Age
29

Ht

196cm

Wt
92kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.9

3

K
7.7

3

HB
4.2

3

M
4.4

4

T
1.8

4

MG
172.3

3

No current season stats available

D
8.2

2

K
5.8

3

HB
2.4

3

M
3.2

4

T
1.4

4

MG
126.8

2

Matthew Parker

37

Matthew Parker

Age
29

Ht

188cm

Wt
80kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
10.3

3

K
6.8

3

HB
3.6

3

M
2.8

3

T
2.9

4

G
0.9

4

D
6.0

1

K
3.0

1

HB
3.0

2

M
0.0

1

T
1.0

2

G
0.0

1

D
10.4

3

K
6.0

3

HB
4.4

4

M
2.4

3

T
3.8

5

G
0.8

4

Billy Gowers

26

Billy Gowers

Age
28

Ht

187cm

Wt
87kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.2

3

K
7.2

3

HB
4.0

3

M
3.7

4

T
1.8

4

G
1.2

4

D
7.0

1

K
4.0

1

HB
3.0

2

M
1.5

2

T
1.5

2

G
0.0

1

D
10.0

3

K
6.8

3

HB
3.2

3

M
4.0

4

T
1.8

4

G
1.2

4

among others

I'm open to anybody at this stage lol. But I think Matt Parker should be locked in, we literally need SOMEBODY to put pressure on JT to perform.

I’d rather bring Broomhead back in than any of those. Parker if fit I guess.

AndrewShawble · Nov 12, 2020

Chrispiesssss said:
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Tom Lynch made a good decision not coming to us.

What do you mean? Of course he did. 2x Premiership player.

Treloar made an error coming here, we’ve proven that and Buckley should have gone to coach somewhere else.

Harsh but true.

texan · Nov 12, 2020

Football can be ruthless, players need to perform on and off the field. Some can do one of these, some can't do either. Sometimes the off field stuff we have no idea what is happening.

Phillips was great on his own, when the heat came how was his decision making. Daicos went passed him and now we have saved all the Phillips salary.

Stevo was great in his first year granted, know where near it since plus his off field indiscretions. Club would have seen exactly what he is like in the Hub first hand. A mix of poor attitude, performance and excessive money means the club has to set a standard for its younger players. Club is entitled to reward those that deliver and those that don't are moved on.

Adam simply cost a lot of money and didn't take a trade last year when he had value, a year on his wife moves on to queensland and his value drops through the floor. His hamstrings let him down every year at some stage and he burns the ball, he gets a lot of it but how many times is it on the last line. How many times did he catch someone in a rundown tackle.

We may never know the full reason for his departure however there is more to this than we will know. The club didn't air it to save the faces of all the players so they could continue there careers elsewhere, I hope all three find their form because if they stayed they'd be playing reserves.

I would imagine the supporters would be angry having 2 million dollars kicking off the dew.

Dead Eye Didak · Nov 12, 2020

Babylove said:
Yes because what I wrote was a glowing endorsement of our trade period.

I think I made it clear that I was very disappointed and I signed the petition that’s been posted in another thread. I also let the club keep two lots of membership fees through through the COVID season. All I was saying was that I have a different opinion on the notion of walking away when things aren’t rosy at the club, I was raised always to stay until the final siren no matter how bad the result is and that’s how I view the off-field stuff too. And I felt with so many declaring that they are walking away, that I needed to point out my different view on the subject.

I don’t believe I deserved to be attacked for my views and I don’t appreciate it.

I didn't say you gave a glowing endorsement of the trade period. I took umbrage of you calling supporters (including Members in that) bandwagon supporters. Alot of us have stuck by the club, some financially, through the worst times.
The club today embarked on one of the worst exodus of quality players in any trade period, and there are alot of unhappy Collingwood prople around tonight. Look at twitter, even ex players are having a go at Ned Guy or the club.
People showing passion, and their disappointment, doesn't mean we are bandwagon supporters!!

Good_Old · Nov 12, 2020

What's worse:

Cave to the demands of those asking for exorbitant contacts, and losing players who want to be there, for peanuts

Or

Not caving, potentially losing them for naught but retaining players who want to be there?

Thedivided · Nov 12, 2020

AndrewShawble said:
What do you mean? Of course he did. 2x Premiership player.

Treloar made an error coming here, we’ve proven that and Buckley should have gone to coach somewhere else.

Harsh but true.

Far from harsh the truth is the truth, I'm confident we won't be attracting any big fish anytime soon also.

mike123 · Nov 12, 2020

stevebbb said:
OUTS: Beams, Reid, Varcoe, Dunn, Shaz, Broomy, Treloar, Stevo, Phillips, Atu
INS: Picks 14, 16, 65, 70, 75, 92

Has to be a plan to pick up a delisted free agent or 2.

Sam Skinner

31

Sam Skinner

Age
27

Ht

197cm

Wt
99kg

Pos.
D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D
9.0

2

K
4.0

2

HB
5.0

4

M
1.0

1

T
3.0

5

MG
101.0

2

No current season stats available

D
9.0

3

K
4.0

2

HB
5.0

4

M
1.0

1

T
3.0

5

MG
101.0

2

Hugh Goddard

45

Hugh Goddard

Age
28

Ht

198cm

Wt
94kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
9.5

2

K
3.5

1

HB
6.0

4

M
2.9

3

T
1.1

3

No current season stats available

D
13.6

4

K
4.6

2

HB
9.0

5

M
4.4

4

T
0.8

3

Darcy Lang

16

Darcy Lang

Age
29

Ht

183cm

Wt
83kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
13.1

3

K
7.4

3

HB
5.7

4

M
3.3

3

T
3.4

5

G
0.7

4

D
4.0

1

K
2.0

1

HB
2.0

1

M
0.0

1

T
2.0

3

G
1.0

4

D
11.2

3

K
5.8

3

HB
5.4

4

M
2.0

3

T
3.0

5

G
0.4

3

Mitch Hibberd
Tom North
Brandon Matera

3

Brandon Matera

Age
32

Ht

175cm

Wt
76kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
14.4

4

K
9.9

4

HB
4.5

3

M
3.7

4

T
2.3

4

G
1.3

5

D
6.3

1

K
5.0

2

HB
1.3

1

M
2.0

2

T
2.5

3

G
0.8

4

D
11.8

3

K
7.4

3

HB
4.4

4

M
2.2

3

T
2.4

4

G
1.4

5

James Parsons

34

James Parsons

Age
27

Ht

190cm

Wt
82kg

Pos.
Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.8

3

K
6.0

2

HB
5.8

4

M
2.5

3

T
2.3

4

CL
0.7

3

No current season stats available

D
14.4

4

K
6.0

3

HB
8.4

5

M
2.4

3

T
2.0

4

CL
0.2

2

Will Golds
Darren Minchington

38

Darren Minchington

Age
31

Ht

179cm

Wt
81kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.0

3

K
5.3

2

HB
5.8

4

M
2.3

2

T
3.2

5

G
0.7

4

D
12.0

3

K
6.0

2

HB
6.0

3

M
2.0

2

T
1.0

2

G
0.0

1

D
9.0

3

K
6.0

3

HB
3.0

3

M
3.0

3

T
1.2

3

G
1.2

4

Kyle Dunkley

48

Kyle Dunkley

Age
24

Ht

185cm

Wt
84kg

Pos.
M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D
9.6

2

K
6.8

3

HB
2.8

2

M
4.4

4

T
2.0

4

CL
0.6

3

No current season stats available

D
9.6

3

K
6.8

3

HB
2.8

3

M
4.4

4

T
2.0

4

CL
0.6

3

Paul Ahern

15

Paul Ahern

Age
28

Ht

183cm

Wt
85kg

Pos.
D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D
17.5

4

K
9.6

4

HB
7.9

5

M
2.3

2

T
1.7

4

MG
296.8

4

D
4.0

1

K
3.0

1

HB
1.0

1

M
1.0

1

T
0.0

1

D
20.4

5

K
9.6

4

HB
10.8

5

M
3.0

3

T
2.4

4

MG
334.4

5

Majak Daw

28

Majak Daw

Age
33

Ht

195cm

Wt
97kg

Pos.
D/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D
9.3

2

K
5.7

2

HB
3.5

3

M
3.7

4

T
2.9

4

No current season stats available

D
8.2

2

K
5.8

3

HB
2.4

3

M
3.2

4

T
2.0

4

Lachie Hosie
Mason Wood

32

Mason Wood

Age
31

Ht

192cm

Wt
86kg

Pos.
M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D
13.2

3

K
7.8

3

HB
5.4

4

M
4.0

4

T
2.2

4

CL
0.3

2

D
8.3

2

K
2.7

1

HB
5.7

3

M
1.7

2

T
1.3

2

CL
0.0

1

D
15.8

4

K
8.6

4

HB
7.2

5

M
4.6

5

T
2.6

4

CL
0.6

3

Riley Grundy
Logan Austin

24

Logan Austin

Age
29

Ht

196cm

Wt
92kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.9

3

K
7.7

3

HB
4.2

3

M
4.4

4

T
1.8

4

MG
172.3

3

No current season stats available

D
8.2

2

K
5.8

3

HB
2.4

3

M
3.2

4

T
1.4

4

MG
126.8

2

Matthew Parker

37

Matthew Parker

Age
29

Ht

188cm

Wt
80kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
10.3

3

K
6.8

3

HB
3.6

3

M
2.8

3

T
2.9

4

G
0.9

4

D
6.0

1

K
3.0

1

HB
3.0

2

M
0.0

1

T
1.0

2

G
0.0

1

D
10.4

3

K
6.0

3

HB
4.4

4

M
2.4

3

T
3.8

5

G
0.8

4

Billy Gowers

26

Billy Gowers

Age
28

Ht

187cm

Wt
87kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.2

3

K
7.2

3

HB
4.0

3

M
3.7

4

T
1.8

4

G
1.2

4

D
7.0

1

K
4.0

1

HB
3.0

2

M
1.5

2

T
1.5

2

G
0.0

1

D
10.0

3

K
6.8

3

HB
3.2

3

M
4.0

4

T
1.8

4

G
1.2

4

among others

I'm open to anybody at this stage lol. But I think Matt Parker should be locked in, we literally need SOMEBODY to put pressure on JT to perform.

id prefer Matera over Parker

Scritchyscroony · Nov 12, 2020

Chrispiesssss said:
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Tom Lynch made a good decision not coming to us.

Ya think?

mike123 · Nov 12, 2020

davywap said:
Stop making sense, they don't take kindly to that 'round here

Bit rich coming from you

Dead Eye Didak · Nov 12, 2020

LuckyLee said:
Have Mihochek and DeGoey actually re-signed? I haven’t heard it confirmed.

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In order to keep JDG and Mihocek, we had to clear out some talented players, so these two should stop f'ing around the club and sign tomorrow!!

Unknown Identity · Nov 12, 2020

Good_Old said:
What's worse:

Cave to the demands of those asking for exorbitant contacts, and losing players who want to be there for peanuts

Or

Not caving, potentially losing them

Clearly not caving means you get 80% of their trade value versus overpaying and getting 30% of their trade value because other clubs know you're ****ed.

johncitizen · Nov 12, 2020

Dead Eye Didak said:
In order to keep JDG and Mihocek, we had to clear out some talented players, so these two should stop f'ing around the club and sign tomorrow!!

Mihocek has as far as I know. It was stated Degoey would sign once the draft was completed

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