Strategy Trade and List Management thread 3 (...The pining for the departed. Edition)

[BRWB]

Seeing as you're seeing Dal soon pann any chance you could ask him where Jongys at in the clubs eyes? And really put this discussion to bed on here.

Personally I think it's pretty bloody obvious he's rated quite highly internally

Last I'm saying on it. It's boring.

Jong won't play 12 games next year and will likely seek a trade at the end of next year IMO.

Jong is rated by the club. Just not as highly as most of the rest of our list. IMO.

 

[darthbards]

You'd think so, but unfortunately, I highly doubt it.

I hope we do get Willie Rioli because I will giggle like a schoolboy. 'Good Willie, bad Willie, stop playing around with it, Willie, get your hand off it, Willie'.

Yes, I'm a child.

You'd also hope the bashes would let the ink dry on his new contract before getting started again especially with all the fun some of them had when they believed he was leaving or at least speak realistically about whether he was wanted by other clubs as well as our own.
I could also get my hand around willie Rioli being on our list. I'm going to also yell things like cmon willie get in there or acknowledge good pieces of play by exclaiming yes willie that was huge

 

[darthbards]

Last I'm saying on it. It's boring.

Jong won't play 12 games next year and will likely seek a trade at the end of next year IMO.

Jong is rated by the club. Just not as highly as most of the rest of our list. IMO.

Sounds like what was said last year

 

[lindsay_bulldogs]

It was easy for them to cherry pick as premiers(something we wasted) but it won't be so easy for them moving forward.

Blokes went there knowing they would go deep into finals but depending how the go this year that may not be the case in the future

comes down to coin.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Really hope Fyfe messy around hawks all year till the last second and re-signs with Freo.

Screw with the Giants as well before declaring 'I'm taking my talents to West Footscray'.

 

[doggies ftw]

Last I'm saying on it. It's boring.

Jong won't play 12 games next year and will likely seek a trade at the end of next year IMO.

Jong is rated by the club. Just not as highly as most of the rest of our list. IMO.

Fair enough, personally if we get 12-15 solid-good games out of him I'll be happy, he definitely provides a difference when he's on, just needs to lessen the gap between his best and worst and I reckon he'd already improved in that regard a heap over the 2nd half of the year. Looked like he was going to tear the elimination final apart before he did his shoulder. Don't think it was fair to say he's not best 22 because he didn't play in the granny, he might have been fit but it was obviously just too big a risk, especially considering McLean was playing well. Considering everything we know about him I think it's fair to say he would have had a positive influence on the game anyway.

 

[Yojimbo]

Fair enough, personally if we get 12-15 solid-good games out of him I'll be happy, he definitely provides a difference when he's on, just needs to lessen the gap between his best and worst and I reckon he'd already improved in that regard a heap over the 2nd half of the year. Looked like he was going to tear the elimination final apart before he did his shoulder. Don't think it was fair to say he's not best 22 because he didn't play in the granny, he might have been fit but it was obviously just too big a risk, especially considering McLean was playing well. Considering everything we know about him I think it's fair to say he would have had a positive influence on the game anyway.

He broke his collarbone, it was not a shoulder.

 

[Rookie]

It's pretty horrifying to think about how Scott Clayton will find a way to Butcher picks 4, 6, 8 and 10.

Speaking of Gold Coast, we delisted Jarrad Grant after he played most games in 2015 and was pretty decent. His list spot became a pick in the 50s where we took Bailey Williams, who looks like a jet.

 

[TMoney22]

Think we need a lock down small defender late in the draft just to have that option in 3 or 4 years time.

 

[Yojimbo]

Think we need a lock down small defender late in the draft just to have that option in 3 or 4 years time.

Roarke Smith ?

 

[Yojimbo]

It's pretty horrifying to think about how Scott Clayton will find a way to Butcher picks 4, 6, 8 and 10.

Speaking of Gold Coast, we delisted Jarrad Grant after he played most games in 2015 and was pretty decent. His list spot became a pick in the 50s where we took Bailey Williams, who looks like a jet.

They have two good academy picks and there are a few jets in the top
ten so i don't think even Clayton could blow it, touch wood.

 

[VitalDread]

Roarke Smith ?

Not really a lock down defender, more of a third man up. Similar to Easton Wood

 

[Yojimbo]

Not really a lock down defender, more of a third man up. Similar to Easton Wood

Maybe he needs to be developed down that path as he does not have
the height to play as the third defender, agility is no good if you are
in the air constantly.

 

[BIG_BONTS]

Re: this discussion about average trades. I agree I wasn't too happy with what we got. however we've shown that a top 4 quality list with a great culture beats all. Maintaining the culture costs.

 

[Doggies1972]

Anyone else suspect Cloke may become a defender?

 

[immortalmike]

Anyone expect Caleb Daniel might become a ruckman?

 

[Dogs Rule]

Anyone expect Caleb Daniel might become a ruckman?

Only if they create a team to play in one of those mini villages or Lego towns. He would dominate.

 

[darthbards]

Anyone else suspect Cloke may become a defender?

I think it might be a bit late in his career for that and I can't ever remember him playing that role at Collingwood previously. I think he will be a depth forward who more than likely will get a chance though.

 

[Alongapoke]

Whenever i see a notification about this thread i get a bit of hope then realize its the same stuff over and over again

Deja Moo, 'that feeling of having heard the same Bull**** before'

 

[TempleKelvington]

Anyone else suspect Cloke may become a defender?

Anything is possible, but no.

 

[Mr. Walker]

I see the classic "I believe I could have *[negotiated a better deal] *[made a better assessment of a player's worth] than the club despite having absolutely no insight into the situation" arguments remain as popular as ever.

This is exactly how Nazi Germany started.

 

[TedDougChris]

This is exactly how Nazi Germany started.

Is this Godwin's Law rearing it's head on Page 157 ???

 

[TiAn_]

Is this Godwin's Law rearing it's head on Page 157 ???

It is and I don't know if 157 pages is good or bad. Either way, this thread could use its own Night of the Long Knives.

 

[TedDougChris]

It is and I don't know if 157 pages is good or bad. Either way, this thread could use its own Night of the Long Knives.

Was thinking more along the lines of the Red Wedding, although it was the good side that suffered then, not the baddies....

 

[King Harold]

This is exactly how Nazi Germany started.

Nar , started way before then.
Mrs Hitler wouldn't let the little fella suckle , that brush under his nose tickled too much !