Strategy Trade and List .Management thread 5 (...the post coitus cigarette. Edition)

[Rockford18sx2]

Ignore the points. Nobody would ever do that trade.

I agree, just throwing out some hypotheticals. Unlikely I know. Wondering what people opinions might be if Essendon came at us with a lower pick in the first round.

 

[bobby2]

Interesting that Carlisle being an absolute campaigner of a human didn’t preclude the Saints from dropping pick 5 on him.

In fairness, Carlisle showed All Australian form for six weeks once at Essendon

 

[Pannalstaroz]

In fairness, Carlisle showed All Australian form for six weeks once at Essendon

Against us

Shocking human

 

[Rockford18sx2]

In fairness, Carlisle showed All Australian form for six weeks once at Essendon

His coke video was also released after he got traded wasn't it? Hopefully Stringer doesn't use selfie cam.

 

[bresker]

I think the reason we're getting rid of Stringer is because he hangs out behind defenders in the forward 50 expecting his teammates to kick the ball over their heads to him while not applying any pressure the other way.

Hope that helps this fascinating debate

 

[TMoney22]

Day 1 of trade week we should request that mediation thing the AFL have to get trades over the line. No bullshitting, just hit that up straight away

 

[SCRAY72]

I know it's sounds simple but pick 11 is roughly equal, only slightly higher than pick 17 and 53 in value points, of which Richmond have both picks.

Enough of this points **** .

 

[go you pups]

Ignore the points. Nobody would ever do that trade.

Agree

If I downgraded 11 to 17, I'd be wanting something like 30 to come with 17

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Day 1 of trade week we should request that mediation thing the AFL have to get trades over the line. No bullshitting, just hit that up straight away

If I was Essendon what this move would say to me was a) we're determined to get rid of him so any threat from us that we'll keep him is bullshit, and b) we don't trust our negotiating ability or position. No way would I do this, make them run to the AFL after sticking to what we ask for.

 

[TMoney22]

Stringer for Pick 11

Dogs: Saad
Suns: Ah Chee, Port 29
Power: Dogs 26, Suns 35

Dogs: D.Smith, 25
GWS: 11, Campbell

Pick 39 for Crozier and Pick 55


Gain: Saad, Smith, 25, Crozier, 55
Lose: Stringer, 26, Campbell, 39
Draft: 9, 25, 55
FA: Trengrove

GWS need ready to go ruck depth and want to get back into the 1st round.
Effectively Stringer for D.Smith and Saad

Then next year is be offering up some decent small players to get a quality mid size or agile key forward to balance the list. Unfortunately that may mean the likes of Libba, hunter or dahlhaus. Wallis then gets more midfield time

 

[Testekill]

Majak Daw coming right up.

That's some real monkeys paw shit.

 

[Rookie]

Stringer for Pick 11

Dogs: Saad
Suns: Ah Chee, Port 29
Power: Dogs 26, Suns 35

Dogs: D.Smith, 25
GWS: 11, Campbell

Pick 39 for Crozier and Pick 55


Gain: Saad, Smith, 25, Crozier, 55
Lose: Stringer, 26, Campbell, 39
Draft: 9, 25, 55
FA: Trengrove

GWS need ready to go ruck depth and want to get back into the 1st round.
Effectively Stringer for D.Smith and Saad

Then next year is be offering up some decent small players to get a quality mid size or agile key forward to balance the list. Unfortunately that may mean the likes of Libba, hunter or dahlhaus. Wallis then gets more midfield time

These are fairly plausible and some of the least-awful hypotheticals I've seen thus far, although we won't get a pick that high from GWS. And why the interest in Devon Smith if you've got a similar player on the trading block next year? Not sure he's what we need.

 

[bresker]

There's some serious overrating of Stringer on here. He's played a handful of decent games in two years. No-one is prepared to trade on Stringer 2015, because he no longer exists. Stringer 16 & 17 weren’t that great. And then there’s the added problems about his penis and his wallet....

The morning bores on SEN posed the question ‘Who would you trade for - Jack Watts or Jake Stringer?’ Now you and I would say Stringer naturally. As did the presenters. But they had to think about it. Is Jack Watts worth a top ten pick? Not a chance. Melbourne will pay his bus fare across the Nullabor.

 

[Dav1d]

No-one is prepared to trade on Stringer 2015, because he no longer exists. Stringer 16 & 17 weren’t that great. And then there’s the added problems about his penis and his wallet....

His penis doesn't play football does it, I can only imagine the problems that it would have when its closest friends are both nuts.

 

[SCRAY72]

Stringer for Pick 11

Dogs: Saad
Suns: Ah Chee, Port 29
Power: Dogs 26, Suns 35

Dogs: D.Smith, 25
GWS: 11, Campbell

Pick 39 for Crozier and Pick 55


Gain: Saad, Smith, 25, Crozier, 55
Lose: Stringer, 26, Campbell, 39
Draft: 9, 25, 55
FA: Trengrove

GWS need ready to go ruck depth and want to get back into the 1st round.
Effectively Stringer for D.Smith and Saad

Then next year is be offering up some decent small players to get a quality mid size or agile key forward to balance the list. Unfortunately that may mean the likes of Libba, hunter or dahlhaus. Wallis then gets more midfield time

One of the more sensible hypotheticals I have read.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

If Essendon want Stringer and don't want to offer pick 11 out right, then the onus should be on them to find a workable solution that doesn't require us rolling out the red carpet by us swaping/downgrading later picks. Perhaps they should look a little harder at a deal with another club to downgrade pick 11 to something they think is Stringer's worth, in the first round of course. If they want him, they can work their asse's off in the trade week trying to make something happen without wasting McCartney's time.

Sounds like McCartney will be a busy man.

Do we really want Essendon to downgrade to the 2 x Richmond picks and offer one of those? Nightmare outcome in my opinion. Would rather swop later picks thanks

 

[Ghenghis]

Stood behind Marcus Adams at the airport baggage claim today. He tripped over a lady's bag. We need to wrap this dude up in cotton wool.

Did you get the ladys name?? If we need someone to play a tagging role, perhaps we should look to rookie list her.

 

[Dogs 13]

Not sure I've seen this in any of the relevant threads, but yesterday Jay Clark was saying:

"The Dogs have made clear they will not accept a second-round selection for Stringer and will attempt to keep him at the kennel next season without adequate compensation.

Suns’ list chief Scott Clayton said Stringer’s value had taken a small hit.

“I would have said before last month or so (he was worth) mid-first (round) but I think it might have dropped-off a little bit,’ Clayton said.

“It’s very hard to step back (from trading a player) once you say (to them) ‘You’re out’.”

 

[Ghenghis]

One of the more sensible hypotheticals I have read.

Agree. Would not mind if we targeted someone like Saad.
He is a line breaker who backs himself in. Think he would revel in our team structure.

 

[McCraeBF]

Could be the biggest change in 20 years

Inn
Trengrove
Impey
Crozier
R.Smith
Draft
Coffield
Brawshaw
Ling
Kruegar

Out
Crameri
Stringer
Honeychurch
Murphy
Hamilton
Biggs
Boyd
Roberts

 

[Doggy]

Could be the biggest change in 20 years

Inn
Trengrove
Impey
Crozier
R.Smith
Draft
Coffield
Brawshaw
Ling
Kruegar

Out
Crameri
Stringer
Honeychurch
Murphy
Hamilton
Biggs
Boyd
Roberts

I was worried i hadn't seen Roberts in your list.

But sure enough as usual he's tagged along

 

[Blizzard2]

Could be the biggest change in 20 years

Inn
Trengrove
Impey
Crozier
R.Smith
Draft
Coffield
Brawshaw
Ling
Kruegar

Out
Crameri
Stringer
Honeychurch
Murphy
Hamilton
Biggs
Boyd
Roberts

Roberts just signed a two year contract extension in June not going anywhere

 

[DognBones]

Could be the biggest change in 20 years

Inn
Trengrove
Impey
Crozier
R.Smith
Draft
Coffield
Brawshaw
Ling
Kruegar

Out
Crameri
Stringer
Honeychurch
Murphy
Hamilton
Biggs
Boyd
Roberts

Not sure how we can trade in those 4 guys and then still be able to draft the likes of Coffield and Brayshaw. I suppose it depends on the value we get for Stringer and perhaps some type of upgrade for Crameri. Don't agree with trading Biggs, he's still an important player for us. I don't disagree with the Roberts call particularly if we are trading in Trengove. He may be able to carve out a decent career somewhere else similar to Zac Dawson but his future with us is likely to be a solid Footscray player.

 

[Blizzard2]

Still really surprised Stringer not keen on Gold Coast does he realise the GC has the biggest schoolies week in the country imagine the damage he could do in just that period. The package would be raw

 

[SCRAY72]

Not sure I've seen this in any of the relevant threads, but yesterday Jay Clark was saying:

"The Dogs have made clear they will not accept a second-round selection for Stringer and will attempt to keep him at the kennel next season without adequate compensation.

Suns’ list chief Scott Clayton said Stringer’s value had taken a small hit.

“I would have said before last month or so (he was worth) mid-first (round) but I think it might have dropped-off a little bit,’ Clayton said.

“It’s very hard to step back (from trading a player) once you say (to them) ‘You’re out’.”

Sorry Scott but you selected Everitt ahead of Jack Riewoldt and Jarrad Grant ahead of Dangerfield so really,ultimately, your opinion pretty well is worth **** all.