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Honestly wonder if Will Gould would want to come somewhere he can get a game. Hasn't debuted. Absolute unit of a kid, not quick, but a good mark with a pinpoint kick and a bit of a brick wall. Could be cheap.
Not a bad shout. He's slow as a wet week but is a lump of a guy and like you said, has a great leg. I've watched swannies VFL for quite some time and he is okay.
 
Not a bad shout. He's slow as a wet week but is a lump of a guy and like you said, has a great leg. I've watched swannies VFL for quite some time and he is okay.

Not sure he has a matchup in a defence, he is strong but not tall enough to play on gorilla style forwards and not fast enough for a medium. He is purely a zone player…. I doubt he makes it.
 
Not sure he has a matchup in a defence, he is strong but not tall enough to play on gorilla style forwards and not fast enough for a medium. He is purely a zone player…. I doubt he makes it.
That was his knock in his draft year iirc?

He slid right down despite being the dominant KPD of the draft year.
 

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That was his knock in his draft year iirc?

He slid right down despite being the dominant KPD of the draft year.

He is a slow medium. He slid due to speed / height limitations.

Lovely kick and good decision maker though. Sydney haven’t played him and I expect he gets delisted.
 
Not sure he has a matchup in a defence, he is strong but not tall enough to play on gorilla style forwards and not fast enough for a medium. He is purely a zone player…. I doubt he makes it.
His main shot would then seem to be a team that mostly plays a zone defensive structure. Is he any slower than Cordy?

You wouldn’t trade for him but I’d take him in the 4th round or the rookie draft rather than our next Footscray plodder.
 
His main shot would then seem to be a team that mostly plays a zone defensive structure. Is he any slower than Cordy?

You wouldn’t trade for him but I’d take him in the 4th round or the rookie draft rather than our next Footscray plodder.

You want a plodder with a better kick.

I would prefer a super fast pressure forward but we don’t appear to ever get those in.
 
Have any SA locals been keeping tabs on Fischer McCasey at all? Reading the Adelaide thread on him there's a lot of disappointment around the young fella. For a high draft pick to have stagnated like he has over the past 18 moths is a little odd and I can only assume it's not just football ability related. Can't help but think a change of scenery and an off-season with Bont and the boys might reinvigorate his enthusiasm for footy. If we could get him cheaply could he be a potential key defender depth player with the chance of him growing into his draft year potential?
 
Have any SA locals been keeping tabs on Fischer McCasey at all? Reading the Adelaide thread on him there's a lot of disappointment around the young fella. For a high draft pick to have stagnated like he has over the past 18 moths is a little odd and I can only assume it's not just football ability related. Can't help but think a change of scenery and an off-season with Bont and the boys might reinvigorate his enthusiasm for footy. If we could get him cheaply could he be a potential key defender depth player with the chance of him growing into his draft year potential?

He’s another slow one. I’d like to see us give him a shot but I wouldn’t have high hopes. Kid’s a Doggy at heart though so maybe that could be what it takes.
 
Have any SA locals been keeping tabs on Fischer McCasey at all? Reading the Adelaide thread on him there's a lot of disappointment around the young fella. For a high draft pick to have stagnated like he has over the past 18 moths is a little odd and I can only assume it's not just football ability related. Can't help but think a change of scenery and an off-season with Bont and the boys might reinvigorate his enthusiasm for footy. If we could get him cheaply could he be a potential key defender depth player with the chance of him growing into his draft year potential?
Oh boy a full back line with both Will Gould and Fischer McAsey sound mouth-watering slow. I'm on board.

In all seriousness he's another I'd be fine with having on the list even just in a back-up capacity for Bruce.
 
Oh boy a full back line with both Will Gould and Fischer McAsey sound mouth-watering slow. I'm on board.

In all seriousness he's another I'd be fine with having on the list even just in a back-up capacity for Bruce.

With some of the forwards going around I think ones reach will be just as important as speed hence why Darcy in defence maybe worth a try.
 
McAsey , I see a very high draft pick .
I Know absolutely zippo about this fellow, but,
could he be another Will Brodie in a change of environmment.
 
McAsey , I see a very high draft pick .
I Know absolutely zippo about this fellow, but,
could he be another Will Brodie in a change of environmment.
He's been discussed on here quite a bit.

Adelaide board reckons he is a bust. The view is he is too slow. Maybe pick him up on the VFL list and see if he develops, if Adelaide let him go
 

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Oh boy a full back line with both Will Gould and Fischer McAsey sound mouth-watering slow. I'm on board.

In all seriousness he's another I'd be fine with having on the list even just in a back-up capacity for Bruce.
Speed seems to be the main worry, along with competitiveness according to the crows board, so things don't sound great for him. That being said in his under 18 season his size and ball reading ability made up for the deficiencies and he went on to be the metro MVP for champs if i've got that right. He could very well not make it, but I just can't see where our next developing key back is coming from and maybe we could get a steal if he turns things around. The only question is who does he replace on our list? Do we risk de-listing one of our smalls for a "maybe" tall?
 
You can be slow if you’re extremely good one on one, I don’t think you can play an interceptor type peel off role whilst slow.

I don’t think you can be slow in our system either way as our defensive system is flipping shit and you’ll constantly find yourself 15m off your man with the ball piercing through our zone as giving up time and space to the player in possession was apparently our game changing innovative focus over the preseason lmao

Collins for example who we all rate highly, would get an absolute pasting in our backline - imagine him trying to play Naughty from 15m in front of him whilst his midfield is giving up time and space to the likes of Bont, Baz, Macrae & Treloar…reckon he’d have any luck?

Makes you think doesn’t it, really puts in perspective what we expect from our key defenders
 
Speed seems to be the main worry, along with competitiveness according to the crows board, so things don't sound great for him. That being said in his under 18 season his size and ball reading ability made up for the deficiencies and he went on to be the metro MVP for champs if i've got that right. He could very well not make it, but I just can't see where our next developing key back is coming from and maybe we could get a steal if he turns things around. The only question is who does he replace on our list? Do we risk de-listing one of our smalls for a "maybe" tall?
His all round athleticism is poor. A few of the better draft watchers questioned the pick at the time. If I remember correctly the lack of quality forwards and quality delivery that year flattered him somewhat.
 
Am I the only one concerned about our future midfield?

Other than Baz, who have we currently got that's under 25 and can guarantee to be, let's just say a good solid AFL midfielder?

Over the next 3-5 years no-one else other than the current midfield crop will get any exposure to midfield time.

All going well with Marra and Darcy, in five years time we could have four elite talls in their prime years. With a badly aging midfield. Dunkley the only other one who could still be in his prime years may be out the door.

It's why I wouldn't be against going after someone like Callaghan.

I know we obviously have glaring list needs in the now, but we need to have one eye on the future.
Garcia will be a lock for Libba’s role.
 
Doubt McAsey is as bad as a lot of the amateur reviews. He definitely didn’t star, but he had a few nice moments at AFL level as a 19 year old. Think he’s had a rough go with injury and family illness while interstate. ATM he’s mostly playing KPF in the SANFL which isn’t his best spot and is a dead end for him as they’re stacked at that position at AFL level.

He would be a solid KPD backup with some potential upside, but only if he could be obtained really cheaply (like downgrade within the 3rd Rd cheap).
 
Doubt McAsey is as bad as a lot of the amateur reviews. He definitely didn’t star, but he had a few nice moments at AFL level as a 19 year old. Think he’s had a rough go with injury and family illness while interstate. ATM he’s mostly playing KPF in the SANFL which isn’t his best spot and is a dead end for him as they’re stacked at that position at AFL level.

He would be a solid KPD backup with some potential upside, but only if he could be obtained really cheaply (like downgrade within the 3rd Rd cheap).
Reports around that he has been bullied by senior crows players too.
 
Been reported as one of the clubs interested in McStay. I’m all for it tbh, if we can fit him in the cap you obviously do it - we all say the caps tight but we literally have no idea if that’s the case, I’d be surprised if it was bursting.

I wonder what our plans would be, I think I recall there being an article we were looking at key forwards to play as defenders? Can’t really remember what he was like as a defender tbh but I rate him forward - but then I don’t really see where he fits forward, I mean obviously he has a spot next year but is it worth it when both Jamarra and Darcy will hopefully be coming through soon, and he’s not a back up ruck option (whereas Lobb for example would make sense)

Any way probably not worth the discussion as he has plenty of suitors, we can’t beat other teams with money so why on earth would he come here to play a mixture of forward, defence and ruck in a notoriously shit team to be a tall - when he could go anywhere else
 
Interesting that Melbourne is reportedly one of the other clubs interested. Would have thought they were sorted for KPPs.
Brown and McDonald will both be over 30 next season with a concerning injury history and I don’t think Weideman will make it.

They have to start looking into the future for their KPF’s as they theoretically could be contending for the next 3-5 years.
 
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