Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Claythesmiths]

It’s pretty clear that FA compensation needs to be rejigged to be made fairer. Obviously players like McKay and Frawley some years ago have earned their former clubs significantly more than their true worth because their clubs happened to have a poor year, meanwhile the Buddy compensation in 2013 must still annoy Hawks fans as one of the greatest ripoffs in AFL history.

They should eliminate the “bands” and create a more nuanced system where the contract criteria spits out a certain amount of points, and the AFL can match those points to the points assigned to particular draft picks. That way a player like Buddy whose contract was probably the highest in the AFL at that time would earn a very high pick, and a player like McKay would probably result in a pick somewhere in the teens. As far as I’m concerned, there is absolutely no basis for tying a compensation pick to a team’s ladder position.

 

[flipper83]

Highly doubt you or anyone else on this thread be saying FA Compo should be eliminated if we were on the receiving end of it.

It just shouldn't be tied to ladder position. In its current format it works to create a bigger gap between the strong clubs and weak clubs

 

[Foxman98]

It’s pretty clear that FA compensation needs to be rejigged to be made fairer. Obviously players like McKay and Frawley some years ago have earned their former clubs significantly more than their true worth because their clubs happened to have a poor year, meanwhile the Buddy compensation in 2013 must still annoy Hawks fans as one of the greatest ripoffs in AFL history.

They should eliminate the “bands” and create a more nuanced system where the contract criteria spits out a certain amount of points, and the AFL can match those points to the points assigned to particular draft picks. That way a player like Buddy whose contract was probably the highest in the AFL at that time would earn a very high pick, and a player like McKay would probably result in a pick somewhere in the teens. As far as I’m concerned, there is absolutely no basis for tying a compensation pick to a team’s ladder position.

NFL do similar but don't allow any until the back end of 3rd round which should be back end 2nd at best for us given size difference

 

[Anja_Nees]

It just shouldn't be tied to ladder position. In its current format it works to create a bigger gap between the strong clubs and weak clubs

I think an arbitration panel would be better. The point was to help experienced players get where they want to go. It makes it way too easy for the club looking to acquire. As long as they have the cap room they get the player and everyone suffers.

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

If the Smith deal is real and we do take pick 3 (now 4) and next years first, do we use that on McKercher? His highlight reel is nuts, having him alongside Bontempelli would be pretty bloody amazing.

Would McKercher still be available at 4?

 

[The Inbetweener]

If the Smith deal is real and we do take pick 3 (now 4) and next years first, do we use that on McKercher? His highlight reel is nuts, having him alongside Bontempelli would be pretty bloody amazing.

Would McKercher still be available at 4?

Noise is the Roos will use one of their picks on him.

 

[Libbaaaa]

Can we refuse to take his kid after this.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Highly doubt you or anyone else on this thread be saying FA Compo should be eliminated if we were on the receiving end of it.

It should be eliminated. Even if it favoured us you can see it is an absolute stain on the competition with Bulldogs goggles on. I’m sure North and Adelaide fans on the board are just laughing with what they got back this year and none think it’s actually fair.

It’s been 9 years since the Frawley BS, I’m not sure how we are still going through it with McKay. All these guys in recent seasons have been RFA too, if you don’t like getting no/minimal compo then match the bid like GWS did with Cameron.

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

For those who follow the draft who in this years pool would be most similar to Adam Cooney in terms of style/plays like?

IMO we need a player with Adam Cooney attributes -speed, burst speed, sound foot skills and takes the game on.

Thats Baz. He just needs to find form

 

[who_let_the_dogs_out]

Noise is the Roos will use one of their picks on him.

McKay for McKercher is a fair upgrade. Goddammit

 

[Dogs Rule]

North are the family with 10 kids who live on welfare and p*** their money down the drain buying smokes and booze. Rinse and repeat. When will the AFL learn to cut them off?

 

[Golden_6]

If the Smith deal is real and we do take pick 3 (now 4) and next years first, do we use that on McKercher? His highlight reel is nuts, having him alongside Bontempelli would be pretty bloody amazing.

Would McKercher still be available at 4?

The deal just couldn't be real. Majority of posters here would be happy with 3 by itself, let alone another 1st thrown in that could easily end up top 5.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

I understand the obsession with getting more of the magic beans of draft time, but other than opposition clubs showing an interest in smith has there been any indication that he actually wants to leave?

I haven’t been his biggest fanboy over the last 12 months but I find the mercenary willingness of many to cash him in to be somewhat distasteful.

 

[Anja_Nees]

North are the family with 10 kids who live on welfare and p*** their money down the drain buying smokes and booze. Rinse and repeat. When will the AFL learn to cut them off?

North, Saints, Essendon, Freo and GC have been in no man’s land for a long time now.

All have glaring problems. The Saints have at least tried to address them by bringing RTB back.

There is no point throwing draft picks at them anymore. They need to fix whatever is wrong.

 

[scooter600x]

FA compo should be eliminated

No, the team getting the player should have to stump up the points, just like F/s or nga

 

[Mofra]

Not sure why some don’t want Harmes. Easily gets a game, and gives us attributes we lack in our midfield (hardness and pace). If he’s among our worst players in the best 22, we’re doing much better than previous years.

Harmes and Coffield both improve us, and will cost little in terms of cap space and picks. It’s a no-brainer for me

2020 or 2021 Harmes perhaps.
I'm not sold on his last couple of years.

 

[Claythesmiths]

The deal just couldn't be real. Majority of posters here would be happy with 3 by itself, let alone another 1st thrown in that could easily end up top 5.

Which is yet another reason why it’s such a relief that BF posters aren’t in charge of trade negotiations.

 

[Foxman98]

No, the team getting the player should have to stump up the points, just like F/s or nga

Well no because McKay isn't worth pick 3 regardless of if Essendon "pay the points" or not

 

[scooter600x]

Well no because McKay isn't worth pick 3 regardless of if Essendon "pay the points" or not

But Essendon wouldn’t pay him $800K if they knew it would cost them more points
They’re only paying him that much so North don’t match

 

[doggy_dog]

No, the team getting the player should have to stump up the points, just like F/s or nga

This isn’t free agency though. This is just forced trading

 

[Foxman98]

But Essendon wouldn’t pay him $800K if they knew it would cost them more points
They’re only paying him that much so North don’t match

Yes they would you can make up the points with shit midround picks

At best end of 2nd should be the starting point

 

[Barking Mad]

Dodo said yesterday Goldstein still has alot of good football ahead of him.

It’s a far better get that when we got Martin.

 

[Libbaaaa]

It’s a far better get that when we got Martin.

Good get because Draper is no good.

 

[Dogs Rule]

It’s a far better get that when we got Martin.

Both moves made clubs that had to be seen to do something.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Cooney is a complete moron.

Smith for Billings and Zerk Thatcher JHC