Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Doggies_13]

Why so much about Bailey? He was at the game Thursday night talking to and taking photos with bulldog kids for 20 plus minutes pregame. Didn’t look like a guy that’s checked out completely.

Is he more likely to leave than stay? Yes that seems to be the reading of the room but he’s still turning up and doing all the right things so not sure why he’s being potted

 

[adogsfan5]

Why so much about Bailey? He was at the game Thursday night talking to and taking photos with bulldog kids for 20 plus minutes pregame. Didn’t look like a guy that’s checked out completely.

Is he more likely to leave than stay? Yes that seems to be the reading of the room but he’s still turning up and doing all the right things so not sure why he’s being potted

Too many people getting rattled by the fact he loves a photo with the Daicos boys.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Too many people getting rattled by the fact he loves a photo with the Daicos boys.

He was sponsored along with the Daicos boys on an overseas trip, for god sake players are allowed to be friends with players from other clubs.

 

[Struggle]

He was sponsored along with the Daicos boys on an overseas trip, for god sake players are allowed to be friends with players from other clubs.

Yeah that's the bit that always got me about his offseason training camp with Collingwood players.
It was organised and paid for by Monster Energy and was tied in with a lead up to a UFC event

Sure, they're involved in his drink brand too but no one is linking him to Carlton because Curnow owns a part

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Why so much about Bailey? He was at the game Thursday night talking to and taking photos with bulldog kids for 20 plus minutes pregame. Didn’t look like a guy that’s checked out completely.

Is he more likely to leave than stay? Yes that seems to be the reading of the room but he’s still turning up and doing all the right things so not sure why he’s being potted

The media parasites "suggest" he could be on the move, talk about it for a while and the gullible public run with the rumours, which then become facts.

Sells lots of papers, and stirs up plenty of clicks.

Friends, that's how you sell advertising space!

 

[lachy]

Why so much about Bailey? He was at the game Thursday night talking to and taking photos with bulldog kids for 20 plus minutes pregame. Didn’t look like a guy that’s checked out completely.

Is he more likely to leave than stay? Yes that seems to be the reading of the room but he’s still turning up and doing all the right things so not sure why he’s being potted

Was at the Bombres game doing the same thing to

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[lachy]

The media parasites "suggest" he could be on the move, talk about it for a while and the gullible public run with the rumours, which then become facts.

Sells lots of papers, and stirs up plenty of clicks.

Friends, that's how you sell advertising space!

So many on here seem to fall for it too.

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[Dogs_r_barking]

The media parasites "suggest" he could be on the move, talk about it for a while and the gullible public run with the rumours, which then become facts.

Sells lots of papers, and stirs up plenty of clicks.

Friends, that's how you sell advertising space!

Also a way to destabilise a club, when the media don’t like the head Coach not fawning over them.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

Don't think for a second that certain media personalities don't have it out for us, they most certainly do. Anything to whack Bevo and make the club look weak they will pounce on.

Weak, spineless, and gutless, the vast majority of AFL Media mouth pieces. All they do is vomit eachother's stories to the point that it suddenly has ''traction'' - ****'em

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Yes, all those selfies with the Daicos brothers tells me he is fully committed to the Dogs.

They have the same manager and are in business together. Maybe they even like each other.

 

[Northernsoul74]

The media parasites "suggest" he could be on the move, talk about it for a while and the gullible public run with the rumours, which then become facts.

Sells lots of papers, and stirs up plenty of clicks.

Friends, that's how you sell advertising space!

It’s not just media parasites. Ameet Baines was pretty blunt when he said Bailey had expressed no indication to re-signing.

 

[The Inbetweener]

It’s not just media parasites. Ameet Baines was pretty blunt when he said Bailey had expressed no indication to re-signing.

Thats it. Hope it’s wrong, but we need to read between the lines

 

[Optimistic Dog]

Thats it. Hope it’s wrong, but we need to read between the lines

I think Bailey loves the limelight so a bigger club playing in front of bigger crowds would appeal. It also increases his marketability off field. Smaller supported clubs like the dogs are always at a risk to losing players to bigger clubs for this reason.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

I think Bailey loves the limelight so a bigger club playing in front of bigger crowds would appeal. It also increases his marketability off field. Smaller supported clubs like the dogs are always at a risk to losing players to bigger clubs for this reason.

Yes it’s great when that club is going well, but how toxic it gets when they are not. Unfortunately some of our supporters seem to be the worse, I.e. the death threats Josh Bruce got.

 

[Mofra]

Yes it’s great when that club is going well, but how toxic it gets when they are not. Unfortunately some of our supporters seem to be the worse, I.e. the death threats Josh Bruce got.

...and Josh Dunkley, and people tracking down Ryan Gardner's family when he blocked them from social media.
Every club has a few nutcases sadly

 

[Anja_Nees]

CD is a defensive liability - it's a big risk that teams will rebound from half back through CD and his opponent. He is the easiest player to push off the ball and is slow and short. Great when he has the ball but a problem when he doesn't.

The other problem (stating the obvious) is height. When he was playing back they’d try to isolate him against taller players. You were basically giving up a few marks a week that another player could spoil.

Again, if he got his usual 25+ touches and got us out of jail with some bullet passes out of defence it was fine. If not it’s a big problem.

The same would apply if he went forward. The opportunity is there for intercept marks that would not be if a taller player were there, or at least a stronger one.

He’s been an outstanding servant and will no doubt play more footy but it’s actually pretty plausible that he would have been out of the system pretty early at another club.

 

[Anja_Nees]

My memory's a bit hazy on the Ward era (60 games at the Dogs) but IIRC it was as much that we didn't anticipate the way the expansion clubs would operate and failed to lock him in to a contract over that period. If we'd offered a tad more (like maybe $50k pa) at the right time he probably would have signed before the Giants rolled into town laden with large bags of money. (Some will say "but then we might not have got Macrae" but Ward was at least as good as Macrae so we were still every chance to win the 2016 flag.)

As for Sam Power, much as we sing his praises there have been a few eyebrow-raising renewals and signings recently. I can probably live with a few dubious signings and maybe even the overly-generous contract years of some of the renewals as long as we lock in our key top 10 players (and you can leave Libba out of that because he's a year by year renewal who is no flight risk at all).

I'm still not entirely happy with the draft assets we had to give up for Sanders either but if he turns out as good as some say he'll be (and we can get him to stay long term) then I'll probably put those scruples aside.

There was a repeated suggestion in the media we were only $50k or so apart with GWS and refused to budge (or fell asleep at the wheel). Totally unverified and might have been rubbish.

I have my doubts as he had just bought a house from memory and had to move interstate. I don’t know why you’d bother for that sort of a difference.

 

[Anja_Nees]

The media parasites "suggest" he could be on the move, talk about it for a while and the gullible public run with the rumours, which then become facts.

Sells lots of papers, and stirs up plenty of clicks.

Friends, that's how you sell advertising space!

That’s all true. Bains’ response when asked if he’d expressed interest in staying was pretty telling though. He’s apparently had an offer in front of him for months and it’s not like he can use the ‘focusing on footy’ excuse.

In my mind it’s no problem if he leaves as long as there’s reasonable compensation. I’d rather he stay but we’re already giving others a go in the midfield etc. If he wants to go elsewhere so be it.

 

[Deadly Darcy]

The "small club" thing is a bit of a furphy these days, IMO.
We're actually pretty well run off-field.
We seem to make a profit each year, we have assets and strong cashflow.

As a supporter base, we revert to the poor-old-Dogs attitude when things go wrong, when we really should be thinking of ourselves a solid club in all respects.

The more we see ourselves as a strong member of the league, the bigger we will become.

I reckon our attitude, as a collective, is about 15 years behind the reality. So is everyone else's opinion of us. It's a lag that we don't need.

Time that attitude changed.

I agree with much of this but the AFL’s attitude to giving us any “marquee” exposure brings us back to “small” club mentality. To get ****ed over in the whole Good Friday thing really sticks in my craw. Not that I particularly want to play north (who I loath) but why give it to Carlton who have the opening game already. AFL House needs to change it’s formal approach to the smaller clubs to change the perception that there are haves and have-not clubs in the league.

 

[ossie_21]

They have the same manager and are in business together. Maybe they even like each other.

I knew there had to be a reason Collingwood started the year so slowly.

They are clearly reeling from the news that the Daicos brothers were seen at Whitten Oval saying “just get us here” after Sam Power said one hypnotising sentence to them.

Something clearly off at the Pies.

 

[Sentinel]

Guess Max might have Cotton'd On to what it means to be a 1 club player at the Cats. I'm sure he'll be happy to take unders in his contract to help keep the group together.

Out-of-contract Cats star wants to stay - but there's one holdup

“The latest around Max Holmes… this has been going on for weeks, the ball is in Geelong’s court.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[Doggy]

Guess Max might have Cotton'd On to what it means to be a 1 club player at the Cats. I'm sure he'll be happy to take unders in his contract to help keep the group together.

Out-of-contract Cats star wants to stay - but there's one holdup

“The latest around Max Holmes… this has been going on for weeks, the ball is in Geelong’s court.”

www.sen.com.au

Certainly no land or cotton on incentives

 

[CarnTheScray]

Do you guys seriously believe Max Holmes is going to get land ownership for 30% of its market value? What a conspiracy theory…

Oh wait, Isaac Smith

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Isaac Smith

Age

36

Ht

188cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

13.0

5star

HB

8.4

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.7

4star

D

19.4

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.3

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

1.3

4star

D

19.2

5star

K

10.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

7.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.6

3star

confirmed it on live radio.

 

[VitalDread]

Dogs hoping to lock West and Buku in 3/2 year deals

 

[BulldogMuscle]

Dogs hoping to lock West and Buku in 3/2 year deals

Both have spots in our 22. West I can see being top 5 in our Charlie this year.