Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)
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I would say at worst he gets a VFL gig. A few good games early next year and he's right in the mid year draft mix. He's still got a fair chance to make a go of it.
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I don’t get this. I know he showed a few promising moves early in his career but has he ever really exerted much influence across a whole game, even at VFL level?
It just seems to me that he has moments rather than whole matches.
I wish him well but the delisting was inevitable.
lachy
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And those moments are few and far between.
Was miles off AFL level this year, hope he does find a VFL position to turn it around.
This was his 4th season on an AFL list. Injuries did not help and may have been the cause, but there was a distinct lack of improvement
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I'm not against delisting him, his output over several years didn't justify retention.
He's a likeable kid with a hard back story though, with enough ability to be serviceable somewhere if his body holds up.
No superstar, but could well have a Shane Birss, Peter Quill type 5-6 year, 50-100 game career somewhere.
His main audience is teenage girls, who themselves can be petulant traitors, so all good
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They have an awful Prelimimary final to flag conversion rate.
That Luke Ball article works in our favour. It would be pretty hard for the Cats to justify putting Smith through that given his known mental health challenges. Pick 17 and F2 and we can all move on.
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I think a lot is going to depend on what Oliver does to be honest, not from a picks point of view but just looking at their list.
They'll struggle to fit all of Dangerfield, Holmes, Smith, Oliver, Bruhn, Bowes and Clark (I'm sure I'm missing some) into their regular midfield rotations so it may be an opportunity to squeeze out one of the fringe midfielders with a pick for Smith.
I suspect Geelong wouldn't want to trade Clark but he has been on the list now for 2 seasons and whilst he played 15 games this year, he was a sub in nearly a third of them, those spots aren't going to be any easier to claim.
The argument that “we only need to offer one first rounder or pick him up in the draft is stupid”
Clubs would then never offer more than a solitary f1 pick for out of contract players and could even continue to downgrade the pick on the night (thus obtaining other picks) just because “he only spoke to us/mental health” etc etc.
Clubs would then never offer more than a solitary f1 pick for out of contract players and could even continue to downgrade the pick on the night (thus obtaining other picks) just because “he only spoke to us/mental health” etc etc.
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I think you might be surprised by the older ages he appeals to as well.His main audience is teenage girls, who themselves can be petulant traitors, so all good
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The AFL will never give up having this level of exposure, coverage and discussion over this period. I half expect them to make it even longer
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The AFL will never give up having this level of exposure, coverage and discussion over this period. I half expect them to make it even longer
365 days.
That way players can move clubs DURING games! Might be one "initiative" where the AFL get ahead of US sports!
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AFL going to look into reports Oliver has cleaned out his locker and trying to force a trade to Geelong? This trade period is starting to not just stink but reek.
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Those geniuses down at Moorabbin couldn’t find their way out of a paper bag
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I don’t know how he got the reputation he has on this forum .very Highly rated around here
Breaking news. I am going if out on a limb here, putting my life in danger but I refuse to be silenced. Here goes, I think there is an immoral cosy little arrangement between the AFL media and club officials. There I have said it.
I don’t go in for “conspiracy “ theories. I believe that in my own little world I have a rock solid reputation for integrity , honesty and punctuality.
My “actual truth “ theory is based on a solid belief - that Jack Macrae will improve the performance of any AFL team outside of those that have an elite midfield group. I think I can speak for everyone when I say St Kilda is outside that group. Well outside. I mean the distance from here to Alpha Centauri outside that group.
So it stands beyond doubt that any list manager remotely doing his job competently would have jumped on the phone immediately Jack mentioned wanting to go to StKilda. Yet the man himself says he has not done this.
This is where my theory comes in. The St Kilda offical who is paid to bring talent to the club admits doing absolutely nothing and not one of the 74,583 journalists paid to report on goings on the the AFL writes one word on the subject. So I suspect there is some cosy agreement between said 74,583 journalists and club officials to hide information from the public in exchange for selected leaking of less damaging information.
( Of course my whole theory falls apart if said offical has in fact contacted the Dogs or Macrae. But wait a minute, that would mean that offical has lied to the public and not one of the said 74,583 journalists has written a word. Maybe my theory stands)
I don’t go in for “conspiracy “ theories. I believe that in my own little world I have a rock solid reputation for integrity , honesty and punctuality.
My “actual truth “ theory is based on a solid belief - that Jack Macrae will improve the performance of any AFL team outside of those that have an elite midfield group. I think I can speak for everyone when I say St Kilda is outside that group. Well outside. I mean the distance from here to Alpha Centauri outside that group.
So it stands beyond doubt that any list manager remotely doing his job competently would have jumped on the phone immediately Jack mentioned wanting to go to StKilda. Yet the man himself says he has not done this.
This is where my theory comes in. The St Kilda offical who is paid to bring talent to the club admits doing absolutely nothing and not one of the 74,583 journalists paid to report on goings on the the AFL writes one word on the subject. So I suspect there is some cosy agreement between said 74,583 journalists and club officials to hide information from the public in exchange for selected leaking of less damaging information.
( Of course my whole theory falls apart if said offical has in fact contacted the Dogs or Macrae. But wait a minute, that would mean that offical has lied to the public and not one of the said 74,583 journalists has written a word. Maybe my theory stands)
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Why does it matter that Jack is overseas?
Is St. Kilda expecting him to be in the meeting room and begging Sam Power to leave?
