Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Pep_x]

Just be glad it's over.

 

[Next Waiting]

The good news is we now have first round pick .... and an earlyish 2nd rounder.

The great news is that Sniff is no longer our problem.

We also facilitated the movement of a couple of respected Bullgods in good faith.

3 players traded. 2 will always be welcome back.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Can we not have to pass every comment past the censors? Seinfeld is a bit of a w***er but I agree with him and Larry David that it’s reaching a point you can’t say shit anymore.

You can do what you like. You should do so knowing that the things you say affect the lives of others, though.

I will continue to call out harmful rhetoric when I see it. What you choose to do with that is up to you.

 

[jdz101]

Let's be real. This is a ****ing disaster.

 

[Northernsoul74]

If he goes to the cattery I quit.

More chance he goes there than us. We’re the Western Bulldogs, we’re not going to be winning a trade chase like that against the big clubs. Sad but it’s the reality.

 

[Bulldogs85]

At least the club doesn’t have to deal with Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

’s crap anymore I see that as a massive win

 

[dogwatch]

The pics of Power and Grant chortling away in the Bulldogs room at 7:15pm when they ought to have been stressed out of their mind tells us all we need to know about how authentic that last day of "trading" was.

Dillon at 7:16 "Sam, are you ready? You're on in two minutes."
Power: "OK, Andy, we're right to go."

 

[Angak]

Fox Footy talking up Smith like crazy now that he has been traded to Geelong

 

[Dog 36]

The pics of Power and Grant chortling away in the Bulldogs room at 7:15pm when they ought to have been stressed out of their mind tells us all we need to know about how authentic that last day of "trading" was.

Dillon at 7:16 "Sam, are you ready? You're on in two minutes."
Power: "OK, Andy, we're right to go."

Spot on

They should attach an Oscar award to Brownlow night

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Keep telling yourselves that.

We essentially got the deal that we were always going to get.

Geelong's first and a shuffling of later picks.

Geelongs posturing about pick 17 alone was just that. Posturing.

But we know that Geelong were offering solely just pick 17 right up until about 15 mins to go, until they relented.

I agree that it's "essentially" the same deal as I don't reckon the pick upgrade is worth all that much, but it still something more than not having the pick upgrade.

It's also impossible to know how much the Kennedy and Macrae trades relied on this pick upgrade, with the potential that Geelong may have not offered the same deal with just 47 or Carlton not accepting 45 or 47 instead of 38.

It's a strange way of dismissing something that is actually meaningful.

 

[Sentinel]

St Kilda now have close to the same number of Bullgods on their list as we do

 

[mal68au]

Just saw the trade news. Can someone tell me how to feel. Excited, angry or somewhere in between?

 

[geoffjennings79]

In times of crisis, it's good to know this board is a place of stable consistency... as we turn on each other... again.

We all know the real enemy...

The AFL.

Oh, and the GFC.

And, uh, the Swines.

And then there's... oh never mind, carry on. ☹

 

[BLACAE]

Well... one reason this will always be a small club is because we have no flipping spine. Other than the Daniel trade, we were shafted without lube. There is no way to paint this as anything other than another massive fail.

25 is good, Kennedy is good, but the rest was weak as piss. We went in with one plan, and one plan alone.

On SM-G990E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[threenewpadlocks]

It is kind of incredible that Geelong have managed to get

Tanner Bruhn (former pick 12) for pick 18
Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

(former pick 7 off an ACL) for effectivley pick 16.

Throw in the fact that both players are ready made and you're not getting the uncertainty of the fact that they have to improve as 18/19 year olds to even reach AFL level (like Sydney have found with Konstansy that's not always the case).

This is how the rich stay rich - you effectively get mid-first round talent for the end of the first round picks, as a team that's getting the influx of talent of a mid-table team.

It really is a bit sickening isn't it.

I don't really think our club could have done much else in the circumstances other than wait it out to the final minutes and more broadly seek to upgrade some of the issues that plague the fact that the draft in theory is necessary for out of contract pre-free agents and that some form of free agent rights needs to be more expansive than just eight years (with better compensation or whatever)

 

[Angak]

The biggest lessons I hope everyone takes from this are:
1. Big Footy "insiders" are always full of shit.
2. fake tough talk from fans is always hilarious
3. threats. sending messages and reputation mean jack shit to clubs during trade week.

4. You have very little leverage when a player is OOC

 

[geoffjennings79]

Just saw the trade news. Can someone tell me how to feel. Excited, angry or somewhere in between?

Yes.

 

[Mofra]

In times of crisis, it's good to know this board is a place of stable consistency... as we turn on each other... again.

We all know the real enemy...

The AFL.

Oh, and the GFC.

And, uh, the Swines.

And then there's... oh never mind, carry on. ☹

I'd like to remind everyone that Toby Greene got fined $20k today.

Things aren't so bad.

 

[W W Biscuit]

If Matt Kennedy is as tough and as physical as they say, I'd be giving him one job when we play Geelong next year.

 

[WB_]

Sauce

Is the implication that he's likely to stay with Port, or seek another club (Geelong)?

 

[Dogs Rule]

It is kind of incredible that Geelong have managed to get

Tanner Bruhn (former pick 12) for pick 18
Bailey Smith (former pick 7 off an ACL) for effectivley pick 16.

Throw in the fact that both players are ready made and you're not getting the uncertainty of the fact that they have to improve as 18/19 year olds to even reach AFL level (like Sydney have found with Konstansy that's not always the case).

This is how the rich stay rich - you effectively get mid-first round talent for the end of the first round picks, as a team that's getting the influx of talent of a mid-table team.

It really is a bit sickening isn't it.

I don't really think our club could have done much else in the circumstances other than wait it out to the final minutes and more broadly seek to upgrade some of the issues that plague the fact that the draft in theory is necessary for out of contract pre-free agents and that some form of free agent rights needs to be more expansive than just eight years (with better compensation or whatever)

But nothing dodgy at Geelong...

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

I’m just happy I don’t have to support that turd of a person Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

is.

All the best to Jack and Caleb.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Is the implication that he's likely to stay with Port, or seek another club (Geelong)?

He'll visit Stanley's farm.

 

[maddog37]

Just saw the trade news. Can someone tell me how to feel. Excited, angry or somewhere in between?

Mildly bemused would be my recommendation. Perhaps with a dose of apathy.

 

[geoffjennings79]

If Matt Kennedy is as tough and as physical as they say, I'd be giving him one job when we play Geelong next year.

Two.

Sniff.
Then Mackie.

Actually three, add Scott.