List Mgmt. Trade & Draft Discussion 2023 post season - Picks Reid,30,40,49,66 (Bush league)

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amazingjoshy said:
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Thanks for that.

Pretty contradictory tbh. They talk about traditional footballing states and advantage, then about the disadvantages for northern states (including travel, fixturing, go-home challenges, etc).

WA/SA are also traditional football states and the clubs also have those issues.

Ideally (never going to happen due to AFLPA) the academy revamp (remove discount, wider access etc) is also paired with players nominating a state rather than a club when they request a trade.

It won’t stop go-home (but will limit it if a player realises their call-home is not as strong as their don’t-want-to-play-in-front-of-10k-crowds-in-Tassie), but when that happens it will allow much greater value extraction.


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The Narrative for west coast from that article is pure Victorian bullshit

It says the suns and kangaroos drafted 34% of the talent from the first 26 players in the 2023 draft. And then cop this…


“West Coast chose to have only one in the first round – Harley Reid – after knocking back multiple first-round picks for the top choice – and missed out on academy star Lance Collard (pick 28 to St Kilda).”

How in the holy **** did we choose? It’s not on us oh wise leaders of the AFL. The AFL chose to make it so
 
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shooshka said:
Thanks for that.

Pretty contradictory tbh. They talk about traditional footballing states and advantage, then about the disadvantages for northern states (including travel, fixturing, go-home challenges, etc).

WA/SA are also traditional football states and the clubs also have those issues.

Ideally (never going to happen due to AFLPA) the academy revamp (remove discount, wider access etc) is also paired with players nominating a state rather than a club when they request a trade.

It won’t stop go-home (but will limit it if a player realises their call-home is not as strong as their don’t-want-to-play-in-front-of-10k-crowds-in-Tassie), but when that happens it will allow much greater value extraction.


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The elephant in the room is when does the priority access get reduced?

How many finals and grand finals should Northern clubs play in before the priority access is reduced until they need it again?

Can see the Lions playing finals and winning one in the next two seasons. Then as a premiership team they retain the rights to select Hodges kids as a academy pick up with priority access inside the 1st round.

And that is after landing a pick 1 and then another top 3 father son with the two Ashcroff brothers. Plus Flecher as well who is a gun.

THAT'S the issue AFL.

If the Swans and Lions are playing in grand finals, signing quality father sons AND attracting A grade trades what ACTUAL disadvantages are they currently experiencing that requires priority access?
 
Elite Pete said:
No train on announced? Just the two top up WAFL players? Still look short at inside mid
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We have a full list so no train on players required
 

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eaglevision said:
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Anyone able to post this?
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Here

It was the Eagles – the band, not the footy club – who penned the hit “New Kid in Town” about a town’s fascination with the new arrival dubbed Johnny Come Lately.
It is hard not to get caught up in the hype around West Coast’s new kid, number one draft pick Harley Reid. The highlights are spectacular, the junior football resume stunning, the opinion of him as the best player in this draft unanimous.

But if you want a reminder that Reid isn’t the only Eagles kid worth watching in 2024, a trip to a training session should do the trick.

If you head to one, there is a fair chance the kid who knocks your socks off in terms of how good he is looking won’t be first year prospect Reid, but second year prospect Reuben Ginbey.

Ginbey has always caught the eye with blond curly hair that seems to belong on a surfboard down south, but now it’s the broad shoulders that appear to belong on the starting blocks in a 100 metre Olympics freestyle final.

Ginbey has taken himself quickly to a new level early in his second AFL pre-season. He is bigger, stronger and running better than he did in his first pre-season.

Running better than any teammate, according to teammates.

At West Coast, a new midfield is only just starting to take shape. And the youngster most ready to take his spot in there for a chunk of the 2024 season is Ginbey.

If 2023 is any indication, Elijah Hewett will go in there sometimes. And you would think that Reid’s versatility and potential will mean that he will also head in there at times, although the Eagles will be wary of making any youngster – even one as impressive as Reid – a permanent engine room player from the get-go.

Ginbey, on the other hand, has already spent most of the time in his first 17 games in the midfield either trying to win the ball for himself or, more often than not, trying to stop an opposition midfield gun from getting it.

It meant that his midfield statistics were modest – a tick under 14 disposals per game – but he did win half of his touches in contests. He also laid almost six tackles a game and, despite the Eagles copping some horrible floggings through the middle of the ground, Ginbey was good for two and a half clearances a game.

He showed a good understanding of how his big frame could be used to knock opponents out of the way and win the ball.

The big frame has only got bigger over summer and teammates have noticed.

“He is in super nick at the moment,” teammate Noah Long said of Ginbey. “He has been the sort of benchmark for boys to catch in the off-season so far and no matter how hard anyone tries you just can’t catch him.”

Ginbey bore an enormous workload for a first-year player in 2023 and it caught up with him when he was sent for hamstring surgery after 17 games. Long said it hasn’t set him back for next season.

“He has set a great standard for boys to get to and after his hamstring last year he has had a good opportunity to get super fit again,” he continued. “He has added a bit more size and all of us young boys from last year are super grateful for the exposure that we had.”

With Liam Duggan successfully spending more time through the middle from half back last season, and Elliot Yeo showing he is still capable of going into the engine room as long as he doesn’t stay there too long because of his recent injury history, it might be possible for Adam Simpson to run a rotation of players out of defence to bolster midfield numbers, with Ginbey one of the key figures.

He isn’t going to be pushed around easily, standing an imposing 191 centimetres tall and around 90 kilograms now. It is easy to forget that his birthday on September 10, 2004 means he is still a teenager.

Indeed, he is just seven months older than Reid.
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Spange said:
The Narrative for west coast from that article is pure Victorian bullshit

It says the suns and kangaroos drafted 34% of the talent from the first 26 players in the 2023 draft. And then cop this…


“West Coast chose to have only one in the first round – Harley Reid – after knocking back multiple first-round picks for the top choice – and missed out on academy star Lance Collard (pick 28 to St Kilda).”

How in the holy * did we choose? It’s not on us oh wise leaders of the AFL. The AFL chose to make it so
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shit makes me rage ****ing hard
if we had a CHOICE i'm pretty sure we would have liked our second pick to have been 19 like it should've been instead of ****ing 30
 
Spooky17 said:
Looks like Rubes has taken the ‘training the house down’ mantle now, channeling his inner Masto.

Cant wait to see him this year. Hoping to see lots of Jubilant Rubes.

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