List Mgmt. Welcome Harley Reid (Pick 1, 2023 National Draft)

[eaglevision]

 

[BSD]

The kid has most of Perth at his fingertips. He might not necessarily be better than Judd, but he could well end up being bigger than Juddy who had popular guys like Cuz and Cox around him. He's his own show right now.

Sign up Yasmin and they can be the King & Queen of Perth. I have every confidence that the club will leave no stone unturned in their effort to keep him an Eagle for Life. Get Daisy to work on her and show her there are better opportunities here than in Carlton's team.
In a poor year our average attendance was up by 4,000 per game, the majority would have been people wanting to see
Harley play. Build a half decent team around him and that figure could quadruple.

 

[shoutsatclouds]

Sign up Yasmin and they can be the King & Queen of Perth. I have every confidence that the club will leave no stone unturned in their effort to keep him an Eagle for Life. Get Daisy to work on her and show her there are better opportunities here than in Carlton's team.
In a poor year our average attendance was up by 4,000 per game, the majority would have been people wanting to see
Harley play. Build a half decent team around him and that figure could quadruple.

ya gunna need a bigger stadium...

 

[BSD]

ya gunna need a bigger stadium...

Get rid of Optus and sign up Harley Davidson as the sponsor then it could truly be Harley's stadium.
They should dig out the plans they've got to increase the stadium to 70,000

 

[kranky al]

Get rid of Optus and sign up Harley Davidson as the sponsor then it could truly be Harley's stadium.
They should dig out the plans they've got to increase the stadium to 70,000

Harley Davidson could change their last name to Reid!!!

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Sign up Yasmin and they can be the King & Queen of Perth. I have every confidence that the club will leave no stone unturned in their effort to keep him an Eagle for Life. Get Daisy to work on her and show her there are better opportunities here than in Carlton's team.
In a poor year our average attendance was up by 4,000 per game, the majority would have been people wanting to see
Harley play. Build a half decent team around him and that figure could quadruple.

Ella is the Queen of Perth

 

[TY24]

They should dig out the plans they've got to increase the stadium to 70,000

Neither team can fill it as it is?

Even during our premiership year, our two home finals didn't quite fill it. There's only been 2 sporting events that have passed 60k in the stadiums existence, and neither of them involved West Coast or Fremantle.

 

[Selurs]

Neither team can fill it as it is?

Even during our premiership year, our two home finals didn't quite fill it. There's only been 2 sporting events that have passed 60k in the stadiums existence, and neither of them involved West Coast or Fremantle.

Sure, but one was a grand final, and the other was a rectangular sport that gains nearly 4000 more seats of availability, yet only beat out our prelim by a couple thousand.

In addition to that, no stadium ever fills to capacity - people get sick, crash the car on the way...things come up. There's always going to be a percentage that can't make it. The more important the game, the smaller the percentage, but in a fully seated stadium, you will never reach total capacity.

Now...if you wanted to argue average attendance of Eagles and Dockers games, both were well under 50k, the Scorchers under 40k. So that would suggest we're okay.

Although...by the same token, the average attendance across all sporting events at the MCG the year is sitting at just under 60k, so a bit less than 60%, so we're actually over subscribed by that metric...and now I've completely lost the track of any possible point I was trying to make, so I'ma stop now...

 

[TY24]

Sure, but one was a grand final, and the other was a rectangular sport that gains nearly 4000 more seats of availability, yet only beat out our prelim by a couple thousand.

In addition to that, no stadium ever fills to capacity - people get sick, crash the car on the way...things come up. There's always going to be a percentage that can't make it. The more important the game, the smaller the percentage, but in a fully seated stadium, you will never reach total capacity.

Now...if you wanted to argue average attendance of Eagles and Dockers games, both were well under 50k, the Scorchers under 40k. So that would suggest we're okay.

Although...by the same token, the average attendance across all sporting events at the MCG the year is sitting at just under 60k, so a bit less than 60%, so we're actually over subscribed by that metric...and now I've completely lost the track of any possible point I was trying to make, so I'ma stop now...

The 2022 and 2023 AFL Grand Finals both reached the MCG's official capacity of 100,024 (apparently)

As for the rest of your post, that's the exact point I'm making. None of the major tenants of Optus Stadium are filling the place up enough to warrant an expansion, would be a massive waste of tax payer $$$.

 

[Selurs]

The 2022 and 2023 AFL Grand Finals both reached the MCG's official capacity of 100,024 (apparently)

As for the rest of your post, that's the exact point I'm making. None of the major tenants of Optus Stadium are filling the place up enough to warrant an expansion, would be a massive waste of tax payer $$$.

Yeah, but stadiums are never a "good" use of taxpayer funds, so by that logic you'll never build/upgrade one. Might as well just have stayed in a rotting Subi oval. Sure as shit is great to have a nice one though.

And the MCG has some weird queue system where MCC members who didn't get in on the seat ballot can wait around outside and take free seats that aren't claimed by a certain time for the grand final, so that doesn't count

 

[Quinz]

Neither team can fill it as it is?

Even during our premiership year, our two home finals didn't quite fill it. There's only been 2 sporting events that have passed 60k in the stadiums existence, and neither of them involved West Coast or Fremantle.

It is not possible to get over 60k in the usual football capacity. 2018-19 averaged over 53,000 and all finals got over 59k. That's full. Several games and all finals had no remaining tickets.

 

[TY24]

It is not possible to get over 60k in the usual football capacity. 2018-19 averaged over 53,000 and all finals got over 59k. That's full. Several games and all finals had no remaining tickets.

Fair point, this’ll be my last comment on it as to not derail the thread, but given none of the 3 major tenants is currently close to averaging over 50k, there’s no real need to go down the expansion road just yet.

Especially during a cost of living crisis, I don’t see us spending several hundred million dollars of tax payer money on a stadium that’s still more or less brand new and is still winning awards for being one of the best venues in the world.

Anyway, back to HR9 stuff.

 

[Goroyals22]

Oh no he is promoting horse racing and Sportsbet…

That’s grounds for instant delisting from some..

 

[Godfather32]

Yeah, but stadiums are never a "good" use of taxpayer funds, so by that logic you'll never build/upgrade one. Might as well just have stayed in a rotting Subi oval. Sure as shit is great to have a nice one though.

And the MCG has some weird queue system where MCC members who didn't get in on the seat ballot can wait around outside and take free seats that aren't claimed by a certain time for the grand final, so that doesn't count

I had a week off recently and went on a tour of the stadium on one of my days off, the bloke giving the tour said that it's already fully paid for

 

[BSD]

I had a week off recently and went on a tour of the stadium on one of my days off, the bloke giving the tour said that it's already fully paid for

The eagles have a membership of 103,000 and can only provide seating to about half that number and also have a very long waiting list.
I think there are about 10,000 seats that have to be left for the general public and the visiting team.
The published attendance figures are for what has gone thru the turnstiles on game day and not what number of seats that were sold for that game.
If the stadium really has paid for itself why not extend it to 70,000
Perth stadium was built without any funds from the Feds and yet they gave millions to SA to upgrade Adelaide oval and also to NSW to upgrade the Sydney Football Stadium.
With a federal election due early next year we should get the Feds to cough up this time around.

 

[Godfather32]

The eagles have a membership of 103,000 and can only provide seating to about half that number and also have a very long waiting list.
I think there are about 10,000 seats that have to be left for the general public and the visiting team.
The published attendance figures are for what has gone thru the turnstiles on game day and not what number of seats that were sold for that game.
If the stadium really has paid for itself why not extend it to 70,000
Perth stadium was built without any funds from the Feds and yet they gave millions to SA to upgrade Adelaide oval and also to NSW to upgrade the Sydney Football Stadium.
With a federal election due early next year we should get the Feds to cough up this time around.

I would imagine it will get extended but not for some time, they're going to have to shut down a fair chunk of the upper tiers to do it because that's where the extra seats are going, at the very back of the upper tier. If we were regularly getting high 50k crowds to both WA teams there's probably a case for it.
He was pretty adamant about it being paid off, said the government probably wouldn't have bothered with the Optus naming rights if they knew they'd get it paid off so quickly.

 

[Goroyals22]

The eagles have a membership of 103,000 and can only provide seating to about half that number and also have a very long waiting list.
I think there are about 10,000 seats that have to be left for the general public and the visiting team.
The published attendance figures are for what has gone thru the turnstiles on game day and not what number of seats that were sold for that game.
If the stadium really has paid for itself why not extend it to 70,000
Perth stadium was built without any funds from the Feds and yet they gave millions to SA to upgrade Adelaide oval and also to NSW to upgrade the Sydney Football Stadium.
With a federal election due early next year we should get the Feds to cough up this time around.

The story went freo didn’t want more than 60 thousand because they couldn’t fill it


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[DanWCE]

I would imagine it will get extended but not for some time, they're going to have to shut down a fair chunk of the upper tiers to do it because that's where the extra seats are going, at the very back of the upper tier. If we were regularly getting high 50k crowds to both WA teams there's probably a case for it.
He was pretty adamant about it being paid off, said the government probably wouldn't have bothered with the Optus naming rights if they knew they'd get it paid off so quickly.

That Optus deal is a real stinker in hindsight hey. And being a pre Covid deal they have got an absolute bargain while we've missed out on a prime opportunity to market ourselves.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Neither team can fill it as it is?

Even during our premiership year, our two home finals didn't quite fill it. There's only been 2 sporting events that have passed 60k in the stadiums existence, and neither of them involved West Coast or Fremantle.

What are you on about? Both thise finals were sell outs and the crowd for both was roughly 59600 out of 60000, which is 99.3% capacity. It's near on impossible to fill a stadium to exact capacity unless tickets are oversold as there will always be a small percentage of people who don't arrive for whatever reason.

Can guarantee if the capacity was 70000 that the crowd would've been 69500 give or take as well, and the reason the Bledisloe cup game was over 60k was due to the square field for rugby which increases the capacity to 65000, and then the 21 grand final they probably sold more corporate/standing tickets than usual.

 

[Boohemian]

Stadium capacity had been discussed extensively on ABC sports talk, and if I recall correctly the main idea was that the bigger the stadium, the worse experience for attendees up in the nosebleeds.

 

[Astro7]

Harley being interviewed at the races made a bold prediction with new players coming on board, compared us to Hawks quick revival, and said we'd be in finals soon!
Could be right, but might want to filter that sort of chatter?
Lets get through this preseason first....

 

[swingdog]

Harley being interviewed at the races made a bold prediction with new players coming on board, compared us to Hawks quick revival, and said we'd be in finals soon!
Could be right, but might want to filter that sort of chatter?
Lets get through this preseason first....

What?

We want MORE of this. We want to be a destination club where players want to come and join ther Harley show. This is like 90s Chicago Bulls - MJ wasn't being shy and bashful.

 

[RanaNaved]

Harley being interviewed at the races made a bold prediction with new players coming on board, compared us to Hawks quick revival, and said we'd be in finals soon!
Could be right, but might want to filter that sort of chatter?
Lets get through this preseason first....

Yeah we'd all rather hear him say he expects us to finish bottom 4 again.... Give me this confidence and belief in the club's direction any day

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Harley being interviewed at the races made a bold prediction with new players coming on board, compared us to Hawks quick revival, and said we'd be in finals soon!
Could be right, but might want to filter that sort of chatter?
Lets get through this preseason first....

Ross Lyon always says things aren't always as good or as bad as they seem. While I don't think we'll ever sink to the depths of 2023 with 20+ blokes on the injury list, games like the Geelong game where we're losing by 100 at half time have been a real kick in the guts.

New coach, newish game style with a couple of tenured Richmond players, the number 3 draft pick and Hewett who pretty much will be a new recruit for us and you never know. It's definitely not gonna be a Hawthorn rise..Hawthorn didn't play in finals since 2018 with all but one of those seasons where they finished ninth finished 14th or lower. This is gonna take a couple years. But I hope to Christ there's a new type of competitiveness with less inclination to rolling over and dying in games starting from now.

That Jamaine Jones standing on the mark for a shot on goal in the first quarter against the Dee's at the G and not even putting his hands up is like seared into my brain. Getting rid of him was a good start.

 

[Farang83150]

Harley being interviewed at the races made a bold prediction with new players coming on board, compared us to Hawks quick revival, and said we'd be in finals soon!
Could be right, but might want to filter that sort of chatter?
Lets get through this preseason first....

Don't agree at all, good on the kid for talking us up and being positive re WC.

 

[THE A5]

Ross Lyon always says things aren't always as good or as bad as they seem. While I don't think we'll ever sink to the depths of 2023 with 20+ blokes on the injury list, games like the Geelong game where we're losing by 100 at half time have been a real kick in the guts.

New coach, newish game style with a couple of tenured Richmond players, the number 3 draft pick and Hewett who pretty much will be a new recruit for us and you never know. It's definitely not gonna be a Hawthorn rise..Hawthorn didn't play in finals since 2018 with all but one of those seasons where they finished ninth finished 14th or lower. This is gonna take a couple years. But I hope to Christ there's a new type of competitiveness with less inclination to rolling over and dying in games starting from now.

That Jamaine Jones standing on the mark for a shot on goal in the first quarter against the Dee's at the G and not even putting his hands up is like seared into my brain. Getting rid of him was a good start.

Please don’t give that idiot the credit for a phrase that Denis Pagan coined