List Mgmt. Trade & Draft Discussion 2023 post season - Picks Reid,30,40,49,66 (Bush league)

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[xInfected_Virus]

We're considering trading pick 1 only if Norf accepts giving up 2 and 3. Honestly I was in the camp of "Draft Reid no matter what" but me being pessimistic like ep2018 fears that Reid may have already reached his ceiling and his dominance was because he was bigger and more physically developed early which means he will be somewhere better than a role player but not a superstar gun. However Reid can still improve and he maybe a superstar in best case scenario is what I would like to think.

If Norf want to trade pick 3 away then we can put a line through trading pick 1. Reports suggest that Melbourne and Hawthorn can put a line for pick 1 and TAKE Reid.

Some posters here in addition to pick 2 and 3 also want Norf's pick 15 and their future first. If nothing comes back then I would do it in a heartbeat but unfortunately we don't live in fantasy land so that means we would have to give pick 22 and our future first back with the idea of backing Norf to finish ahead of us and even that maybe unders. We can Take McKercher and Duursma/Curtin with those picks.

Trading our future first for Curtin with Geelong or Melbourne is a high risk high reward type of thing and would only work if it's clear Norf or anyone won't draft him till Melbourne or Geelong's pick. If it doesn't work out we've wasted a future first when the club maybe uncompetitive but if it succeeds then we're geniuses. Curtin could be anything from a gun to an average player.

If the club has less than five wins next year then we've got to enquire a PP as unpopular as it is (can be useful if we traded our 2024 first for Geelong or Melbourne to get Curtin). We can make a case that two of our first round picks had their careers ended early due to concussion.

 

[rko121]

I would definitely be interested if 2 and 3 are offered and pick Mckercher and Durrsma. If Curtin slides it should just be 8 and Cats F1 for our F1, cats won't make the 8 next year and it will still give us a top 10 pick. Imagine walking out with Mckercher, Duursma, Curtin, Collard and ZZ.

 

[Monocle]

It might just be a coincidence, but after weeks of nothing from the club on what we wanted for pick 1 the same day pick 3 to North is officially confirmed an article comes from nowhere saying we want 2 and 3

All the BS about pick 2 and 19, or 2 and 14 being good offers or maybe Hawthorn or Melbourne being in a position to make a run at pick 1 has been shown up for the rubbish it was

Now we have Eyebrows Ralph writing about how North might be better just using the picks they have

Like I said, maybe just a coincidence but theres been a change of tune

Keys every Vicprick journo is printing their version of what we will do.

There are that many versions, some of the journos have changed their storyline - and a couple more than once.

At the end of the day there are so many computations of what we will be doing, that after the draft one journo will get it almost right and then bang on about it for twelve months.

If you throw enough darts eventually one will end up close to the bullseye, who knows they may even hit it.

 

[xLeCrAs2x]

I just cannot get on the Zane Duursma train, his brother projecting to be a gun then becoming a complete spud has probably done it for me. Do not want

 

[ROO DOGG]

Me

There was a lot of duplicate chat across the two threads so there was little point running both



Thanks ep

I know

 

[Phas]

I would definitely be interested if 2 and 3 are offered and pick Mckercher and Durrsma. If Curtin slides it should just be 8 and Cats F1 for our F1, cats won't make the 8 next year and it will still give us a top 10 pick. Imagine walking out with Mckercher, Duursma, Curtin, Collard and ZZ.

I would blow my load if we could get McKercher, Duursma AND Curtain while staying in round 1 next year.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

I would blow my load if we could get McKercher, Duursma AND Curtain while staying in round 1 next year.

Id blow my load if we JTR

 

[WCE_Phill]

F1, 35, F3 to Cats for 8, F1. If we think Curtin is actually any good.

Geee, this could several ways and might be worth the risk (provided we keep Reid)

1. If we finish last and Cats finish 9th - thats trading 1,35, 37 for 8 & 10

2. If we finish last and Cats slide to 13th - thats trading 1, 35, 37 for 8 & 6

3. If we manage to win a few and finish 16th and Cats slide to 13th - thats trading 3, 35, 40 for 8 & 6

4. If we manage to win a few and finish 16th and Cats slide to bottom 4 - thats trading 3, 35, 40 for 8 and 4

I'm a fan of this but may need a future 2nd back - protecting us against option 1 and 2

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Quick scan of the Norf thread and they don't seem to understand WE'RE the ones with Pick 1. AND we're keen to draft Harley Reid. if they want him, they have to come up with a deal that satisfies US.

They seem to think they have the advantage in any deal, even though we're the ones with Pick 1 and therefore Harley Reid.

 

[Phas]

Quick scan of the Norf thread and they don't seem to understand WE'RE the ones with Pick 1. AND we're keen to draft Harley Reid. if they want him, they have to come up with a deal that satisfies US.

They seem to think they have the advantage in any deal, even though we're the ones with Pick 1 and therefore Harley Reid.

Nah, nah, nah you've got it twisted. He's Victorian. We aren't allowed allowed to draft a Victorian at #1. It's against the constitution of the AFL.

 

[Ghossein]

I'd love us to become a team that manipulates the system to our advantage and stick it to the AFL in that way. We've done a good job in taking the high ground and not asking for handouts, but we should go scorched earth on the FA system next year if we finish bottom again.

I'm talking about offering to pay 400k/yr salaries for another club to pick up the Tom Coles & Josh Rothams on 750k/yr FA contracts. Walk away with picks 1,2,3. Then spit in the AFL's face when they offer us PP's at the ends of R1 and offer F1's etc. by publicly saying "No, we don't want your handouts like some other tin rattlers.".

Well if you're in the bottom 4-6 teams and you know you have a few A grade players walking at the end of the year, why wouldn't you?

Systems create incentives, and the AFL have created a system whereby players are judged solely on salary + ladder position. North managed to get pick 3 out of it, good for them. The other 17 teams won't forget that.

 

[Ghossein]

How do I get from Mirrabooka shopping centre to Stirling Gate, WC board?

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This has gone too far now, the guy hasn't even played a game yet and the government have already named a highway after him?

 

[Priddis Is Done]

FML

I'm back off 1 week band camp

Called them the tin rattlers on the main trading board.

It's been a rough week.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Geee, this could several ways and might be worth the risk (provided we keep Reid)

1. If we finish last and Cats finish 9th - thats trading 1,35, 37 for 8 & 10

2. If we finish last and Cats slide to 13th - thats trading 1, 35, 37 for 8 & 6

3. If we manage to win a few and finish 16th and Cats slide to 13th - thats trading 3, 35, 40 for 8 & 6

4. If we manage to win a few and finish 16th and Cats slide to bottom 4 - thats trading 3, 35, 40 for 8 and 4

I'm a fan of this but may need a future 2nd back - protecting us against option 1 and 2

Cats won’t risk it if we don’t. We would need to be willing to get completely done in for them to accept.

Their best case scenario is swapping 8,18 for 1,35,37.

Actually reading that, its bad but it isn’t as bad as what could happen to cats.

 

[Ghossein]

It’s not enough. You need to find 25-30 afl players at 3-4 per year. Rebuilds take too long. Not every pick every year will make it as an afl player, so takes 6-8 years to rebuild.

I’m of opinion bottom 4 get an early 2nd round pick automatically. Would a team tank for a second round pick? Not so sure.

1. Not every AFL player gets picked up in the first few rounds though, many find their way through the rookie draft.
2. Lists turn over every year, rebuilds aren't starting from 0 players.
3. Rebuilds have happened for decades without any tinkering to the system.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

For any other club 2+3 for 1 is an insane offer that would never be offered.

But North with their string of failed acquisitions knows that if we pick Reid, even if he eventually goes back to Victoria, they will never get him. So if they want this marquee player they're going to have to draft him.

I'm glad we've set the asking price there, because they might just pay it and if they don't we've got Reid.

Why didn't we promote ROB the mad Kent earlier?

We haven’t set the price there!! Sorry but I wouldn’t accept 2&3 for Reid! Kercher would have to be your first choice then. Fast left footer, downside? No right and to me ; much more of a go home factor with Tassie coming in.
Next pick; most BFers seem to have it as a given it’s Curtin.A rangy HBFer type with aspirations of playing midfield.
Sorry! I’d take Reid over both of them

 

[Jupes]

Quick scan of the Norf thread and they don't seem to understand WE'RE the ones with Pick 1. AND we're keen to draft Harley Reid. if they want him, they have to come up with a deal that satisfies US.

They seem to think they have the advantage in any deal, even though we're the ones with Pick 1 and therefore Harley Reid.

you don't get it mate they're going to hold off playing their cards and let us sweat

 

[ROO DOGG]

FML

I'm back off 1 week band camp

Called them the tin rattlers on the main trading board.

It's been a rough week.

I got deducted 2 points for........ Norf
I didnt even use "lol Norf" i just used an emogi. Soft.

 

[pantskyle]

Absolutely loving the change of tune through social media and normal crap media.

Has gone from Eagles should be trading pick 1 to should North trade for pick 1.

Next it'll be Eagles trying to extort North, probably led by that ****wit failed fireman.

 

[TOA.]

All I will say is thank **** the tin rattlers landed on their ass and beat Gold coast, especially after we did our best to fumble pick 1.

We got so close to being in a markedly worse position. Conversely, the tin rattlers would have been set for a generational draft and may have been half relevant soon (for once).

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Can't wait for our trade week to be rated a C- because we kept pick 1 and drafted a 'generational talent' rather than get crafty and accept some fictional trade radio offer that never happened

 

[shooshka]

Cats won’t risk it if we don’t. We would need to be willing to get completely done in for them to accept.

Their best case scenario is swapping 8,18 for 1,35,37.

Actually reading that, its bad but it isn’t as bad as what could happen to cats.

Cats probably prefer picks this year, which does put us at risk of missing Collard or similar, but we could always trade our F2nd for 2 picks mid 20’s or early 30’s and send one to the cats instead of F3rd (and just in case anyone questions if we can trade F1st and F2nd - in this case yes as we would be getting a F1st back).




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[ep2018]

Freo apparently throwing an offer at Brockman, I guess the handshake agreement between the clubs is well and truly dead now.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Cats probably prefer picks this year, which does put us at risk of missing Collard or similar, but we could always trade our F2nd for 2 picks mid 20’s or early 30’s and send one to the cats instead of F3rd (and just in case anyone questions if we can trade F1st and F2nd - in this case yes as we would be getting a F1st back).




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Yeah they do (they need them next year too possibly but certainly not as much as this year).

I would have said F1, 35 and 42 but sounds like 42 will be for Brockman.

Your idea works too

 

[Obeanie1]

Operation get both Reid and Curtin might be underway…

I’d rather not part with our future 1st tbh.

I could see us doing future 1st for the Dees pick 5 and their future 1st or if Curtin falls to Geelong’s pick, doing the same with them.

Wouldn’t agree with it, but wouldn’t hate it.

Trading our F1st to land Curtin and say a 2024 pick 7 would be astute trading IMO.

The top 5 rated 4 are Vic Metro and then Draper from SA who the Crows are mighty keen on.

So pick 7 next year is in reality likely player 1 or 2 on the Eagles want list.