List Mgmt. Trade & Draft UltraThread- Warning, May Contain Speculation #combinethethreads

[Max zero]

Pick 24 + 31 for Kelly.

13 is too much, even by itself.

Thats where we are at the moment. I hope we don't have 13 by the end of the year. 18 would be much better.

 

[eagles rule]

Pick 24 + 31 for Kelly.

13 is too much, even by itself.

I would do Pick 13 for Kelly to keep maximising on our Premiership window for next year ..


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[Obeanie1]

They need to leave him in the WAFL for half a season playing midfield. His tank looks like its not there yet. He always looks gassed. He did miss a lot of the preseason.

Bingo.

Needs to get a full preseason into his body.

 

[Keys]

I would do Pick 13 for Kelly to keep maximising on our Premiership window for next year ..


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I’ll be pissed if we trade pick 13 for kelly

Not because I think that would be overs but I’d be unhappy that we have pick 13

 

[30stm]

I’ll be pissed if we trade pick 13 for kelly

Not because I think that would be overs but I’d be unhappy that we have pick 13

Here's a post on the Cats board about the T Kelly trade scenario -

Geelong will push again for at least a top 10 pick, possibly even more if Kelly’s form holds up. Maybe WC first this and next year may have to be settled for? I’d hope though that we could get more than that considering their likely end of year ladder position. Kelly may well be the player that could give them a dynasty. Do we really want to trade him to them anyway?!

 

[Dark Sharks]

So now it's TWO first round picks?


Yeah righto. Easier to just fold the club.

 

[Scotland]

And Brander. Don't forget Brander.

So that's two first round picks, Jarrod Brander, a prawn Goebbels, a Herman Goering, and four Colditz salads.

 

[Goomba1973]

McGovern and Gaff will have hoovered up too much of our cap I suspect. But surely GWS will offer him heaps anyway

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I don't think that's the case at all. Kennedys pay is on a veterans list (not included in the cap I think , correct me if I am wrong), Nic Nat is on a reduced contract, Lycett and Lecca have freed up quite a bit of money. Will Schofield will probably be offered a 1 year deal at less money or delisted, Jackson Nelson, Kurt Murtimer, Frasier McInnes (they already delisted him then redrafted him as a rookie) will likely be traded for late draft picks or delisted, Brendon Ah Chee will go. I think WC have a bit to spend on another sizeable contract, maybe night quite a Mill but could be close. If WC went after Coniglio instead of Kelly they would not too far off but I don't think they will seriously go after Coniglio , more than likely they will get Kelly, without having to pay out a contract to Geelong and more than likely get him for 750K per season over 3 years and a couple of draft picks.

 

[Scotland]

West Coast's salary cap is a thing of beauty.

At the end of 2017 with Priddis and Mitchell retiring and Wellingham and Hill finishing up we were supposed to finish last (hai Wallsy).

Gaff and McGovern attracted interest from elsewhere and are now both on $1m+ at least. Yeo, Shuey, Darling, Redden, Jetta etc. who all signed in 2017 or earlier (in Redden's case early 2018 coming off an ordinary first two years) are on huge money. Naitanui (who did actually sign a big contract in 2014) will be on huge money forever and there's no way his salary is reducing. Ditto Kennedy, Hurn etc. LeCras retired but evidently created 0 salary cap space.

The cap is $12.5m. I reckon if you added up all the "reported" figures you'd get to $15m easily.

 

[WCE_phil]

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I don't think that's the case at all. Kennedys pay is on a veterans list (not included in the cap I think , correct me if I am wrong), Nic Nat is on a reduced contract, Lycett and Lecca have freed up quite a bit of money. Will Schofield will probably be offered a 1 year deal at less money or delisted, Jackson Nelson, Kurt Murtimer, Frasier McInnes (they already delisted him then redrafted him as a rookie) will likely be traded for late draft picks or delisted, Brendon Ah Chee will go. I think WC have a bit to spend on another sizeable contract, maybe night quite a Mill but could be close. If WC went after Coniglio instead of Kelly they would not too far off but I don't think they will seriously go after Coniglio , more than likely they will get Kelly, without having to pay out a contract to Geelong and more than likely get him for 750K per season over 3 years and a couple of draft picks.

Veterans only have 100k per individual per season outside of cap.

 

[Turboman1994]

I think people seem to forget we were already paying gov and gaff it’s nkt like we are paying them 1mil extra per player. Gov was rumoured to be on about 500k 500-600k increase and gaff around 7-800k 200k increase it’s an easily manageable cap increase. Obviously you need to future proof your cap and there isn’t an infinite amount but I can’t see any reason why we couldn’t add either Kelly for 500-600k or cogs for around 800k

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

Veterans only have 100k per individual per season outside of cap.

Veterans list payments outside the cap were abolished 2/3 years ago . Sydney had about 4 players on it at that time (malceski shaw McVeigh and goodes ) and they were also getting cola . It was part of the reason they got a trade ban .

Veterans list + cola sydney were getting 1mil more outside the cap than most other teams or = to 1 buddy franklin

 

[eagles rule]

I’d be unhappy that we have pick 13

I don’t like it anymore than you do ..

Fold the club and Sack Simmo..


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[squashface]

I don’t like it anymore than you do ..

Fold the club and Sack Simmo..


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We already did that in the second quarter of Round 1

 

[southcoast]

We already did that in the second quarter of Round 1

But....................we unfolded the club after Pies game so we can fold it again when it suits.

Please, keep up.

 

[Pulsedriver]

Fold the club and Sack Simmo..

Sack Woosh and bring back Murray Newman.

 

[Obeanie1]

With Sydney looking like hot garbage their 2019 2nd rounder that they traded to us last year is looking more and more valuble. If they go bottom 4 (pick 19-23 initially) it could be very useful to us.

Stuff that wooden spoon for the Swans.

We get the first pick in the 2nd round maybe.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Stuff that wooden spoon for the Swans.

We get the first pick in the 2nd round maybe.

Now we all know how valuable pick 1 on day 2 is worth

 

[bUCKET__]

Tim Kelly today... 9 disposals, 1 FA, 6 clangers going @ 33%.

^ is what happens if he cops any attention at all.

Even Masten-haters wouldn't be able to say that Masten has had a worse game than that in recent memory.

Not related to thread, but glad we didn't run into the Giants on this form. Kelly and Hopper back in make a huge difference to their ball movement.

 

[Obeanie1]

Tim Kelly today... 9 disposals, 1 FA, 6 clangers going @ 33%.

^ is what happens if he cops any attention at all.

Even Masten-haters wouldn't be able to say that Masten has had a worse game than that in recent memory.

Not related to thread, but glad we didn't run into the Giants on this form. Kelly and Hopper back in make a huge difference to their ball movement.

He got an ankle injury late last week. I dropped him from my DT thinking he would be playing sore and production would drop........it did.

 

[Quinz]

Sorry Cats, the price is now a third round pick in the mid season draft.

 

[Dark Sharks]

 

[archiemoses]

He got tagged by De Boer

 

[Scotland]

He got tagged by De Boer

Not according to Cats fans.

 

[Scotland]

Sorry Cats, the price is now a third round pick in the mid season draft.

That deal sounds... Exceptional.