List Mgmt. Trade & F/A - 2018/2019 - Part 3

[Horaceg]

Now the sad part, who gets delisted

Reportedly the last few years are for $1.5 million plus. Even with an increase in the cap that’s going to restrict Richmond severely. Lynch will be over thirty before he begins his last 3 years of the contract.

I am glad we didn’t offer anything similar, as much as I would love Lynch at the club.

Richmond, sounds like the 1980's repeating.

 

[WalterBlaknWhte]

Just FWIW... this post by yours truly at 3:55pm yesterday.

Oh so close. Only difference was we got to keep 57!

Always keep your bathtub filled because you are on fire!

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Seriously just no.

I am hoping we get IQ and Kelly with our last two picks with no one having bid on them. What we want is to get them as cheap as possible.

People wanting bids early on either of those two players, just so we feel better about the Beams trade, when in reality it will be worse for us, has me scratching my head about some poeple.

Getting Beams and both our targeted players without a deficit in points is a big win.

"I want us to pay up the max for Quaynor and Kelly so I can say "I told you so"".

 

[Unknown Identity]

Some bad news.

Just speaking with a mate who is working with an AFL club at the moment, we were discussing Quaynor and Kelly late last night with a recruiter from the club my mate works for.

Internally our feeling is that the Kelly bid is going to come earlier than expected, somewhere in the 10-15 range, there has been some genuine interest from a few clubs in the first round for Kelly.

While Quaynor bid will come in the 20-30 range.

We would have had to trade in more picks on top of 18 to cover getting both these kids.
At this stage if it plays out the way the club thinks it will, we will only be taking one and we are undecided on which one yet.

Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[unplugged]

Always keep your bathtub filled because you are on fire!

If I had've nailed it I'd be asking Ned for a job. And I'd consult daily with BigFooty, in particular Magpie Monopoly !

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Some bad news.

Just speaking with a mate who is working with an AFL club at the moment, we were discussing Quaynor and Kelly late last night with a recruiter from the club my mate works for.

Internally our feeling is that the Kelly bid is going to come earlier than expected, somewhere in the 10-15 range, there has been some genuine interest from a few clubs in the first round for Kelly.

While Quaynor bid will come in the 20-30 range.

We would have had to trade in more picks on top of 18 to cover getting both these kids.
At this stage if it plays out the way the club thinks it will, we will only be taking one and we are undecided on which one yet.

Don't shoot the messenger.

The person telling you that doesn't understand the bidding system or the points allocation system

 

[Bay Pie]

Those figures appear to be well off by my esrimations - given that picks 41 + 44 only bring in 774 points the earliest bid those two picks would match on their own would be at pick 19.

Yep stuffed up there. I included the 50's pick we can use.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Job list.

Sign De Goey. Tick
Blood youth while the team has injuries. Tick
Make finals. Tick.
Go deep in finals. Tick.
Sign Moore. Tick.
Sign Langdon. Tick.
Get Beams. Tick
Get a backup kpp/ruckman. Tick
Trade pick to manage academy points. Tick.

Next?
Sign Mihocek.
Get a Hine special with our only live pick (currently 175 by my calcualtions!!!)
Miraculously keep Murray after his B sample comes out negative (or flawed).
Start training.
Win 2019 premiership.

 

[Unknown Identity]

The person telling you that doesn't understand the bidding system

It's pretty clear cut.

Hypothetically if the bid comes at 11 that's 1329 points.
Quaynor's bid comes at 22 (845 points)

1740 points with the discount applied.

We currently have 1033 points with no first round pick next year, and a 2nd round pick anywhere from 32 (584 points) to 42 (395 points) depending on ladder position and compo picks.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

It's pretty clear cut.

Hypothetically if the bid comes at 11 that's 1329 points.
Quaynor's bid comes at 22 (845 points)

1740 points with the discount applied.

We currently have 1033 points with no first round pick next year, and a 2nd round pick anywhere from 32 (584 points) to 42 (395 points) depending on ladder position and compo picks.

So you agree, it is possible to get both

 

[Unknown Identity]

Adelaide is the club that will apparently bid on Kelly either at 13 or 16.

 

[jackcass]

Some bad news.

Just speaking with a mate who is working with an AFL club at the moment, we were discussing Quaynor and Kelly late last night with a recruiter from the club my mate works for.

Internally our feeling is that the Kelly bid is going to come earlier than expected, somewhere in the 10-15 range, there has been some genuine interest from a few clubs in the first round for Kelly.

While Quaynor bid will come in the 20-30 range.

We would have had to trade in more picks on top of 18 to cover getting both these kids.
At this stage if it plays out the way the club thinks it will, we will only be taking one and we are undecided on which one yet.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Kelly is 1 of the few genuine KPP types talked about in that mid 1st round - late 2nd round range so I certainly wouldn't be surprised if he attracts a bid before IQ. I haven't studied team lists to see which clubs have KPD depth issues and where their picks are but I'm sure others are doing it in the lead up to the draft.

 

[Horaceg]

What’s the bet we have enough points for both?

Yep, if I was the recruiter at another Club, I wouldn't waste time or invest any effort into trying to draft a kid you know you are not going to get, focus attention on the kids that you are able to get.

 

[JJ14AU]

Some bad news.

Just speaking with a mate who is working with an AFL club at the moment, we were discussing Quaynor and Kelly late last night with a recruiter from the club my mate works for.

Internally our feeling is that the Kelly bid is going to come earlier than expected, somewhere in the 10-15 range, there has been some genuine interest from a few clubs in the first round for Kelly.

While Quaynor bid will come in the 20-30 range.

We would have had to trade in more picks on top of 18 to cover getting both these kids.
At this stage if it plays out the way the club thinks it will, we will only be taking one and we are undecided on which one yet.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Surely we take Kelly given our KPP stocks? I’d let Quaynor go elsewhere personally.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Yep, if I was the recruiter at another Club, I wouldn't waste time or invest any effort into trying to draft a kid you know you are not going to get, focus attention on the kids that you are able to get.

How much time and effort does it take though? You like a kid, you bid, if you miss out because the other team matches, then you draft somebody else. Its hardly an exhausting exercise.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Ned Guy seems reasonably confident that our draft hand is decent enough to land both. Time will tell, but at least we have the capacity to string together some better picks for more points.

 

[Bird on a wire]

The person telling you that doesn't understand the bidding system or the points allocation system

Could you explain how we could get both in the circumstances described?

 

[Horaceg]

Kelly is 1 of the few genuine KPP types talked about in that mid 1st round - late 2nd round range so I certainly wouldn't be surprised if he attracts a bid before IQ. I haven't studied team lists to see which clubs have KPD depth issues and where their picks are but I'm sure others are doing it in the lead up to the draft.

I tend to agree, he is more highly rated than Jake at this point in their respective careers and Jake has come along nicely, to a point where we were looking at him if Langdon left. As long as we get both even if we have to go into deficit, I am very OK. We have a raft of young talent that will hold us in good stead for the foreseeable future.

 

[Unknown Identity]

Ned Guy seems reasonably confident that our draft hand is decent enough to land both. Time will tell, but at least we have the capacity to string together some better picks for more points.

Externally that is a front.

He is very concerned that we won't have the points for both.

 

[AmericanMustard]

If we want Kelly and Quaynor we will get them.

 

[Unknown Identity]

Clubs also had a practice run this morning with live trading, all went really smooth. Everyone really happy with it.

 

[unplugged]

I just saw the draft (round 2 onwards) is on a Friday morning. You've got to be bloody kidding. No work will be done that morning.

 

[TradeDraft]

Trading 41 & 44 to North for 47, 48 and 49 would net us an extra 130 points

North Need Points too so I guess they be Reluctant to do that

 

[TradeDraft]

Plus those people have no idea how the points system works

I admit I am not 100% Sure how it works

 

[PatrickPiesFan]

Adelaide is the club that will apparently bid on Kelly either at 13 or 16.

I agree that they could potentially look at him; but I have a feeling they will bundle some of those picks up to try and get higher in the draft. I wouldn't be surprised if any or all of 8,13,16, and 21 are used to try and get in front of Port's pick 5 so they can guarantee one of the gun SA boys.

This live pick trading is going to be pretty good to watch I think!