List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency Part 9

Who Will NOT Be Re-Signed?

  • Dylan Grimes

    Votes: 117 82.4%
  • Dion Prestia

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • Dustin Martin

    Votes: 70 49.3%
  • Jack Ross

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Liam Baker

    Votes: 40 28.2%
  • Maurice Rioli

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • Sam Naismith

    Votes: 111 78.2%
  • Matthew Coulthard (Rookie)

    Votes: 79 55.6%
  • Thomson Dow

    Votes: 24 16.9%
  • Kamdyn McIntosh

    Votes: 22 15.5%
  • James Trezise (Rookie)

    Votes: 1 0.7%
  • Noah Cumberland

    Votes: 96 67.6%
  • Mate Colina (Cat B Rookie)

    Votes: 99 69.7%
  • Mykelti Lefau (Rookie)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Seth Campbell (Rookie)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Steely Green

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kaleb Smith

    Votes: 4 2.8%
  • Marlion Pickett

    Votes: 27 19.0%
  • Jacob Blight (Rookie)

    Votes: 2 1.4%
  • Campbell Gray (Rookie)

    Votes: 3 2.1%
  • Jack Graham

    Votes: 54 38.0%

  • Total voters
    142
  • Poll closed .

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Oakleigh Charger Finn O'Sullivan will join teammate Jagga Smith this Sunday playing for Richmond's VFL side. It will be O'Sullivan's first VFL game as the Tigers get a close look at two of the contenders in the wide open race for the No.1 pick.

Top-10 contender Tobie Travaglia, who enjoyed an excellent carnival for Vic Country, will play VFL for Carlton this weekend, while St Kilda's Next Generation Academy pair Adrian Cole and Lennox Hofmann will line up for Sandringham's VFL side.

Could be a battle to see who we go at pick 1. Hope FOS is match fit.
 
AFL draft blog….


ill be pissed off if we miss out on Davidson…we really should do everything to make him a senior tiger
We had a spare MSD pick…..but passed ffs


CLUBS EYE MATURE-AGER​

RICHMOND VFL forward Sam Davidson is on the radar of a handful of AFL clubs following an eye-catching first season at Punt Road.

The 22-year-old was the only VFL player invited to the state draft combine when the first batch of names were revealed last week.
Richmond has added a handful of VFL-listed players to its AFL program over the years via the mid-season draft, pre-season supplemental selection or rookie draft, including Mykelti Lefau, James Trezise, Tylar Young and Jake Aarts, while Sam Durham and Massimo D'Ambrosio have also risen to the AFL after spending time at the Swinburne Centre.

The Tigers have been very impressed and are understood to be interested in Davidson, but they aren't alone. Adelaide, Sydney and Greater Western Sydney have all monitored his progress closely and could make a move in November or during the summer.

Essendon reached out before the Mid-Season Rookie Draft but opted to select another VFL player instead, picking Northern Bullants star Saad El-Hawli.

Part of the reason Davidson is a late developer is due to his focus on his medical degree and the country placements he has undertaken in recent years since graduating from St Kevin's College.

Davidson is studying to become a doctor at Monash University – he is halfway through his fifth year and has added an honours year – which is why he started last season playing for South Mildura in the Sunraysia Football and Netball League before finishing the season at Maffra in the Gippsland League.

In 2022 he played for Sale City in the North Gippsland League, which is how Steve Morris became aware of him. Davidson reached out to trial with the Tigers' VFL program last pre-season and has bolted from nowhere over the past couple of months.
The 191cm mobile forward has kicked 21.10 from 14 appearances after being picked for his first VFL game in round three, kicking six goals against Northern Bullants last month after four against Port Melbourne a few weeks earlier to attract the attention of recruiters.

If Davidson lands on an AFL list in November or via the pre-season supplemental selection period, the Victorian will need to put his current degree on hold given the required contact hours, but it won't stop him studying a part-time PhD in 2025. – Josh Gabelich

 

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ill be pissed off if we miss out on Davidson…we really should do everything to make him a senior tiger
We had a spare MSD pick…..but passed ffs


CLUBS EYE MATURE-AGER​

RICHMOND VFL forward Sam Davidson is on the radar of a handful of AFL clubs following an eye-catching first season at Punt Road.

The 22-year-old was the only VFL player invited to the state draft combine when the first batch of names were revealed last week.
Richmond has added a handful of VFL-listed players to its AFL program over the years via the mid-season draft, pre-season supplemental selection or rookie draft, including Mykelti Lefau, James Trezise, Tylar Young and Jake Aarts, while Sam Durham and Massimo D'Ambrosio have also risen to the AFL after spending time at the Swinburne Centre.

The Tigers have been very impressed and are understood to be interested in Davidson, but they aren't alone. Adelaide, Sydney and Greater Western Sydney have all monitored his progress closely and could make a move in November or during the summer.

Essendon reached out before the Mid-Season Rookie Draft but opted to select another VFL player instead, picking Northern Bullants star Saad El-Hawli.

Part of the reason Davidson is a late developer is due to his focus on his medical degree and the country placements he has undertaken in recent years since graduating from St Kevin's College.

Davidson is studying to become a doctor at Monash University – he is halfway through his fifth year and has added an honours year – which is why he started last season playing for South Mildura in the Sunraysia Football and Netball League before finishing the season at Maffra in the Gippsland League.

In 2022 he played for Sale City in the North Gippsland League, which is how Steve Morris became aware of him. Davidson reached out to trial with the Tigers' VFL program last pre-season and has bolted from nowhere over the past couple of months.
The 191cm mobile forward has kicked 21.10 from 14 appearances after being picked for his first VFL game in round three, kicking six goals against Northern Bullants last month after four against Port Melbourne a few weeks earlier to attract the attention of recruiters.

If Davidson lands on an AFL list in November or via the pre-season supplemental selection period, the Victorian will need to put his current degree on hold given the required contact hours, but it won't stop him studying a part-time PhD in 2025. – Josh Gabelich

Oh my ****ing god.
I knew this would bloody happen.
We had an extra pick! Like why not just take him???
 
AFL draft blog….


ill be pissed off if we miss out on Davidson…we really should do everything to make him a senior tiger
We had a spare MSD pick…..but passed ffs


CLUBS EYE MATURE-AGER​

RICHMOND VFL forward Sam Davidson is on the radar of a handful of AFL clubs following an eye-catching first season at Punt Road.

The 22-year-old was the only VFL player invited to the state draft combine when the first batch of names were revealed last week.
Richmond has added a handful of VFL-listed players to its AFL program over the years via the mid-season draft, pre-season supplemental selection or rookie draft, including Mykelti Lefau, James Trezise, Tylar Young and Jake Aarts, while Sam Durham and Massimo D'Ambrosio have also risen to the AFL after spending time at the Swinburne Centre.

The Tigers have been very impressed and are understood to be interested in Davidson, but they aren't alone. Adelaide, Sydney and Greater Western Sydney have all monitored his progress closely and could make a move in November or during the summer.

Essendon reached out before the Mid-Season Rookie Draft but opted to select another VFL player instead, picking Northern Bullants star Saad El-Hawli.

Part of the reason Davidson is a late developer is due to his focus on his medical degree and the country placements he has undertaken in recent years since graduating from St Kevin's College.

Davidson is studying to become a doctor at Monash University – he is halfway through his fifth year and has added an honours year – which is why he started last season playing for South Mildura in the Sunraysia Football and Netball League before finishing the season at Maffra in the Gippsland League.

In 2022 he played for Sale City in the North Gippsland League, which is how Steve Morris became aware of him. Davidson reached out to trial with the Tigers' VFL program last pre-season and has bolted from nowhere over the past couple of months.
The 191cm mobile forward has kicked 21.10 from 14 appearances after being picked for his first VFL game in round three, kicking six goals against Northern Bullants last month after four against Port Melbourne a few weeks earlier to attract the attention of recruiters.

If Davidson lands on an AFL list in November or via the pre-season supplemental selection period, the Victorian will need to put his current degree on hold given the required contact hours, but it won't stop him studying a part-time PhD in 2025. – Josh Gabelich

FFS what a ****ing clown show. Why is it so obvious to all the supporters that this Kid is special? But our ******** recruiters have no ****ing idea. I'm so over this club at the moment, there is absolutely no leadership and it's a ****ing disgrace.
 
With the possibility that Dow Cumberland Picket & McIntosh could be the last 4 players either re-signed or delisted and some talk about us being interested in the likes of Jacob Konstanty Will Phillips Elijah Tsatas & Ben Hobbs the question needs to be asked.

If you had the choice, which quartet would you take:

Re-Sign: Dow Cumberland McIntosh Pickett

or

Trade/Delisted Free Agent: Phillips Konstanty Tsatas Hobbs

or

None of the above
I reckon 3 of these 4 will be at the club next year. Cumberland won't.
 
100% North gutted their list in the one hit
Leaving them with zero leadership and they still
Haven't recovered , we are already losing a shit ton of experienced players this year and people
Want to trade Lynch, broad , flipping ridiculous
North retired 5 or 6 blokes or gqve them away for nothing, so they brought in a rd 1, rd 2, rd 3 etc. Our players have value so will bring in in o e year the picks north have had over 4. In our situation I think we are saying if someone had value, bring us a pick. But that just means that an older player without value we will hold onto
 
FFS what a ing clown show. Why is it so obvious to all the supporters that this Kid is special? But our **** recruiters have no ****ing idea. I'm so over this club at the moment, there is absolutely no leadership and it's a ****ing disgrace.
If he was such a standout why didn’t another club take him ??
 
Bc it says so in the spreadsheet ….are you suggesting RT has got it wrong?





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As my post says Kosi’s uncle has a few times told me he signed a 2 year deal.

Recently told me that he needed to finish the season off well then have a good year next year otherwise could be all over.

Not saying I’m 100% correct but all I can go off is what he has told me. So if it’s incorrect Jake has told his uncle (my best mate) the wrong thing then.


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If he was such a standout why didn’t another club take him ??
hes a relative unknown and probably wasnt on oppo radars until he kicked 6. tigers fans have been pointing him out as an msd pick from way before that based purely off his natural talent and hard running. when he started being a consistent goal kicker as well most of us thought it was a given we'd pick him up. especially given the dire straits of our forwardline.
 
hes a relative unknown and probably wasnt on oppo radars until he kicked 6. tigers fans have been pointing him out as an msd pick from way before that based purely off his natural talent and hard running. when he started being a consistent goal kicker as well most of us thought it was a given we'd pick him up. especially given the dire straits of our forwardline.


Exactly….if not because Davidson has talent and is a proven contested mark and goal kicker…then as you say it’s bc….well most of us thought it was a given we'd pick him up. especially given the dire straits of our forwardline.
 
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McLean fair enough I missed him being recruited in the SSP period. Gulden, Blakey, Campbell I left out as they were academy gifts, nothing to do with recruiting acumen or skill.

You can't fairly exclude 2016 for Clarke, he was in charge when the final recruiting decisions were made, so it is legitimately within the period he was making the decisions, if he didn't want Bolton and Graham, we would have gone with someone else.

Swans have recruited more good players from their picks, but they have had better picks to work with, and by a margin. Clarke's recruiting can only be made to look bad by ignoring all of the following:

  • He had almost no prime picks to work with at the draft, never a single top 8 pick, only 1 pick under 17 ever.
  • Richmond's success caused a series of his decent picks like Stengle, Higgins, to have to be traded out.
  • Picks from the weak 2020 draft were wisely deferred to the stronger 2021 draft meaning the players from those picks are 1 year less developed than would have otherwise been the case
  • the strong draft hand in 2021 appears to have produced several good footballers, but 2 have done ACL's and the premium pick Gibcus also missed another whole season. No recruiter can be held responsible for that.
  • significant value from the 2023 draft was deferred to the 2024 draft, meaning he missed the chance to use some natural picks there.

Clarke clearly had the least draft capital to work with of any club during his time in charge of our recruiting - 8 drafts. Key picks were converted to Prestia, Caddy, Taranto, Hopper, and only 1 pick was taken from the top 16 of any draft, and his final draft some significant value was deferred to the next year. Despite that, just from drafting alone in 8 drafts, we have recruited:

Bolton AA, gun, premium player 2 flag player
Balta strong kpp could yet prove amongst the best in the AFL.
Stengle AA, flag player
Baker who everyone agrees should trade for the value of a mid rd 1 pick
Gibcus who subject to fitness shapes up as a gin KPP
Brown who shapes as a strong hybrid defender
Ross a decent winger
Higgins a very decent small forward
Graham
Pickett
Mansell
Lefau
Young

And a load of young players like Ryan, Banks, Sonsie, Green, Smith, McAuliffe, from which a couple more should make the grade.

I find it hard to believe people are so down on Matt Clarke as a recruiter. He has at the very least a very solid record.
Because he left , as they say in the classics , leave RFC for elsewhere and you’re a campaigner
 
With regards to Davidson, you'd have to think there are some major concerns about him given he is in our system and the club would know a lot more about him compared to us keyboard recruiters.
 
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