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List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency Part 9
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HumanMeatball
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Has something to offer imo
Against Casey who stink. Wouldn't read much into it.
Lukosius would've been great for us a few years ago alongside a prime Lynch/Riewoldt combo. Now he'd just be a whipping boy getting the #1 defender most weeks. Hard pass.
tigs2010
Pick 1...
Luko found his level
Lukosius is Sam Weideman with a nick kick. No fight or mongrel which the best forwards have. Will never be apart of a premiership forward line.
tigs2010
Pick 1...
Dimma knows
Pick 5 and Pick 20 for Rioli? Where do I sign?
tigs2010
Pick 1...
Don't reckon we get 20 with pick 5 but who knows with the salary we will likely offer to pay.
We paid 6 and then some for prestia , they need to cough up , what dimma wants he gets , they.ll pay
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We get what we get and we don't get upset.
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Against Casey. Who are shit
Let him rot at the Suns
Or the crows are stupid enough
To trade for him
No no no at Richmond
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On the dotted line
We paid picks that ended up at 7 & 36 for Prestia and a pick that ended up at 26. Based on the draft points index that is worth between picks 9 & 10, but closer to pick 10 than 9.
If we got pick 5(probably slides to 6) for Rioli you would be happy with that I think. However, I am pretty sure Suns will want our pick 1 as well. So there is likely to be a massive deal involving at least 3 clubs to get it all done. If that is how it works out we will end up with quite a lot of rd 1 picks, possibly including picks 3 & 5 but definitely one of those.
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Doesn't mean much when he played like a busted arseh*le throughout this year
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Eagles swap pick 3 and 24 future 3rd with dockers for picks 10.11 and 15
We get pick 3 and 27 for Bolton from freo
And pick 5 for rioli from Suns
Lions first pick say 14
Baker to Eagles for pick 15
Which leaves us with
Pick 1
Pick 3
Pick 5
Pick 14
Pick 15
Pick 21
Pick 22
Pick 27
Pick 32
Excellent draft haul
Rioli and 22 (Graham) for 5 & 12 (suns)
Baker and Bolton for 9, 13 and 17 (Freo)
21, 33, 39, 41 and 51 for 14 (Lions)
17 for F1 (anyone, Pies?)
13 and 14 for 6 (Saints)
Leaves us with 1, 5, 6, 9, 12, F1.
Easy
Baker and Bolton for 9, 13 and 17 (Freo)
21, 33, 39, 41 and 51 for 14 (Lions)
17 for F1 (anyone, Pies?)
13 and 14 for 6 (Saints)
Leaves us with 1, 5, 6, 9, 12, F1.
Easy
Rioli and 22 (Graham) for 5 & 12 (suns)
Baker and Bolton for 9, 13 and 17 (Freo)
21, 33, 39, 41 and 51 for 14 (Lions)
17 for F1 (anyone, Pies?)
13 and 14 for 6 (Saints)
Leaves us with 1, 5, 6, 9, 12, F1.
Easy
sregit
Premiership Player
We could take Philips in the preseason draft if we wanted.
Rainesy would get a gig in our midfield at the moment !!!
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time to return the traditional Richmond yellow
a carltoon supporter told me rioli is worth 25
tigs2010
Pick 1...
I've invested a lot of time into deathriding Pies & Freo for Freo to just turn around and trade those picks to WC. Not sure I can allow it
Would be great but imo, there’s absolutely no way GCS will give up pick 5, as Lombard won’t be selected that early (unless we play games and say we will select him
). Pretty unlikely though
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time to return the traditional Richmond yellow
we will get pick 6 and select another reece concaWould be great but imo, there’s absolutely no way GCS will give up pick 5, as Lombard won’t be selected that early (unless we play games and say we will select him
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THE_GUN:"Why don't you use your reg acc"7/9/24
Trade tightrope: The huge calls Richmond face on their stars
ByJake Niall
August 18, 2024 — 5.30amThe path that Richmond takes on whether to trade out Daniel Rioli and/or Shai Bolton represents the most consequential decision that the club has faced since the exit of Damien Hardwick and his replacement by Adem Yze.
The Tigers will likely lose Liam Baker to either Fremantle or West Coast, and they’re comfortable with that reality, recognising that Baker is out of contract and has every right to return home to Perth.
Rioli leaving to reunite with Hardwick at Gold Coast would sting Richmond people, who are still adjusting to the break-up of a band that delivered so many hits and memories and to Hardwick’s rapid shedding of his Tiger skin.
Pivotal decisions loom for Richmond around Shai Bolton and Daniel Rioli.Credit:Getty Images
Thankfully, the threat of Dusty Martin joining the “Dimma” Suns has receded to the point that we will be surprised if Dusty un-retires and lands on the beach.
But to add the loss of Bolton, arguably the club’s most gifted player, to that of Baker and Rioli would be revolutionary. It would signal a near complete list-reconstruction under Yze and would almost compel the hierarchy to guarantee the senior coach at least another three years after 2024.
Instinctively, this column’s initial reaction to the prospect of losing that trio of premiership players, in their primes (Bolton 25, Baker 26, Rioli 27) was to say that the Tigers would be unwise to lose all three and that they should avoid stripping back too far when Tom Lynch, Dylan Grimes, Nick Vlastuin, Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia and Nathan Broad have all turned 30.
Carlton levelled the list to near ground zero in 2015 and while they – finally – have enough mature top-end talent to contend, it has been a turbulent journey that has seen four coaches, three CEOs and other high visibility officials disappear down the Royal Parade trapdoor.
But on consideration, the answer to the Richmond riddle – whether they keep Rioli and Bolton, sell one or trade both – is contingent upon what they would get back in return, and how they would compensate for the loss of three of their best players, culturally and on-field.
Rioli and Bolton are secured on contracts for three and four more years respectively. Richmond can simply hold them to their contracts if they wish, thumbing their nose at the offers from the Suns and Perth teams.
Rioli is certain to fetch at least a first round pick and potentially another decent pick if he goes. Two first rounds is over the odds, but it is clear that the Tigers would extract more from Suns – who have seldom had quality players queuing up to join – than from anyone else.
Bolton is more problematic. He has just become a father for the second time and the club is aware that he would explore a move home to Perth for family/personal reasons.
Bolton’s is Richmond’s premier match-turner and could be a huge difference-maker to a Fremantle team that’s well-placed for multiple flag assaults. I’m not convinced he is such a valuable asset for West Coast, given their demographics are not dissimilar to Richmond’s as a team that’s tipped over into rebuild; the Eagles can hardly afford to hand over too much draft capital.Therein lies another complication: Whichever of Fremantle or West Coast lands Baker will give up a first rounder, and that club might be less inclined to pay an even heftier premium for Bolton.
The Dockers hold three first-round picks, including Collingwood’s (courtesy of a generous Lachie Schultz trade), so they’re the more logical landing for Bolton and possibly Baker.
West Coast have pick three on current ladder positions, which they will obviously be loath to give up. But they’re a fair chance to trade Tom Barrass (Hawthorn?) in exchange for a first rounder, which can be parlayed into a trade for Baker.
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Rioli is performing closer to his peak and his body language and tireless effort suggest he’s more invested than Bolton, who has not scaled the heights of 2022 in a team that has been smashed by injuries this year.
We can speculate about Fremantle, West Coast and Gold Coast’s offerings for the Tiger trio, but really these deals would be on Richmond’s racquet; barring Baker, the Tigers can hold.
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To let all three depart, the Tigers would need to be satisfied of the following:- That the draft return will bring the club closer to premiership contention;
- That the fabric of the team and club will not be damaged for an extended period.
- That they have sufficient senior players – Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper among the key leaders – to retain spirit and competitive performances during the trough, however long it lasts.
Conversely, Hawthorn have shown that it is possible to jettison experience – and prune back the list to supposedly dangerous levels of inexperience – and still to have rapid regrowth. And the Hawks are sexy again for free agents et al.
Having imitated Hawthorn’s unsuccessful acquisitions of Jaeger O’Meara, Tom Mitchell and Chad Wingard (deals that delayed their renaissance) by recruiting Taranto and Hopper, there’s a case for Richmond doing a version of Sam Mitchell’s audacious youth policy.
It largely hangs on what you can get.
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