List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 4

[Rioli2Rioli]

If Cerra was always leaving due to wanting to be in Victoria, then ending up with Picks 6, 8, 19/22, Clark and Brodie is good work. With their list and the way it's being built, they're doing a great job of it.

Not really as you will be using these picks (8) ans what ever they get to replace the players they have lost with no guarantee to be as good
pick #19 is the bonus for the salary dump but i would question with Lobb & Cerra out of the team where they will finish on the ladder

They could be just trading their 2022 2nd rounder #25 (example) for pick #19 this year and taking a $500k salary dump
For Freo to win this trade Brodie needs to become a player

Whilst Gold Cost is being looked at as a fail just need to remember this
2022 Gold Coast draft picks
1st round. - Gold Cost
2nd round. - Gold Cost , Collingwood , Fremantle
3rd round . - Gold Coast , Collingwood , Fremantle

 

[sregit]

Is Dal on the hawks payroll?

 

[beema limapep]

Why was Graham a slider anyway?

Where was he projected?

A slider has to slide from the consensus phantom in the draft to a clear later pick

For example, Astbury and Gawn where drafted together in the thirties, but that does not necessarily mean they slid.

A later draftee does not necessarily mean the draftee was a slider if he was projected to be drawn late

Wasnt Rendell in charge of list management at Adelaide the year they overlooked him?

 

[Marcel Proust]

Note cotchin with blood pissing out.

Bloody champion

 

[Funky Chicken]

Unfortunately Hartley and co refuse to speak to anyone during the trade period. That obviously includes both media and the other clubs!

Well, Blair Hartley's ignoring my emails and phone calls so this must be true.

 

[Lord of the Wings]

After a 4 year drought it's so nice coming home after a hard day a work and seeing Richmond people melting over our lack of activity during trade period, suggesting that people who helped build our premiership winning sides have effectively signed their dismissal papers and it's possible if we don't do anything in the next 24 hours that talk will start about the Focus on Footy ticket getting rebooted.

Clark didn;t

Is Dal on the hawks payroll?

There are more dumb arse ex players trying to make a name for themselves in AFL media these days than #lolNorf members. Ignore the cants

 

[beema limapep]

we'd need inside goss from someone in the Club to know if we are stuffing up ie( not contacting oppo club people direct , not being able to put our proposed trades in an attractive way etc )

or could it be the offers we were getting just aren't good enough for us so no deal

or are we a victim of our own success , no body wants to deal with us , even a "win / win " deal advantages us and in their eyes we've had enough wins in the last 5 years ???

Well, I for one am not happy.

 

[prodigy]

I can see where Dal Santo is coming from to be fair. If we were going to target either of those players, I'd be more comfortable with O'Meara who is younger. I believe the way to go is to do a bit of a mix... Get in one proven performer and then invest in the draft.

 

[beema limapep]

the ox is slow, the earth is patient

keep quiet like this, and flags won't be renascent.

 

[Marcel Proust]

I can see where Dal Santo is coming from to be fair. If we were going to target either of those players, I'd be more comfortable with O'Meara who is younger. I believe the way to go is to do a bit of a mix... Get in one proven performer and then invest in the draft.

It makes some sense to top up in the dusty window. Assuming he comes good.

It's not everyday toy have the core of a 3 flag side to work with and it's a hard and even comp.

Cue the SpongeBob I don't want to be hawthorn/Geelong

 

[petro12]

I can see where Dal Santo is coming from to be fair. If we were going to target either of those players, I'd be more comfortable with O'Meara who is younger. I believe the way to go is to do a bit of a mix... Get in one proven performer and then invest in the draft.

There’s only 15 months between the pair. Hard to go past Mitchell where we’re guaranteed 30+ a week. We’re not a high possession player team so it’ll be interesting to see if we go panicking buying next week

 

[Marcel Proust]

There’s only 15 months between the pair. Hard to go past Mitchell where we’re guaranteed 30+ a week. We’re not a high possession player team so it’ll be interesting to see if we go panicking buying next week

When does the trade thing end?

 

[theyellowsash]

Is Dal on the hawks payroll?

if we could turn some of our picks in the 30s/40s into another second rounder, id do 2 picks in the 20s for mitchell. omeara can gagf though, theres nothing that makes him special since gc stuffed his calves.

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

We all have a player or two we dislike and just because we voice ourselves loudly about our opinion, it does not make us a poor supporter. George has had two very poor years not one. I am also of the opinion that he should be moved on. As for respect it should be earned and even though George is a 3 x premiership player he is quickly losing support.

No doubt everyone has a player who think their no good etc.
I have no problem you think he needs to be moved on but at least your doing in a respectful manner.
There is a line in the sand.Hence why your not on my shit list.

 

[richoplzbreed]

He’ll bounce back

Here's my only thoughts when it comes to claims Costanza will bounce back.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

I can see where Dal Santo is coming from to be fair. If we were going to target either of those players, I'd be more comfortable with O'Meara who is younger. I believe the way to go is to do a bit of a mix... Get in one proven performer and then invest in the draft.

I can see where Dal Santo is coming from to be fair. If we were going to target either of those players, I'd be more comfortable with O'Meara who is younger. I believe the way to go is to do a bit of a mix... Get in one proven performer and then invest in the draft.

JOM v Mitchell

I would rather mitchell at Richmond than JOM to be honest
JOM is 14 months younger but more injury prone and i personally think mitchell has another 5 years of football in him. Not sure JOM does
Also Mitchell fits our need more than JOM

 

[Marcel Proust]

Apparently Jager can hardly train due to injury ...

 

[Barnzy]

JOM v Mitchell

I would rather mitchell at Richmond than JOM to be honest
JOM is 14 months younger but more injury prone and i personally think mitchell has another 5 years of football in him. Not sure JOM does
Also Mitchell fits our need more than JOM

Don't think we're trading for any mature player (Besides Tarrant).

Normally there's rumors. Mostly it is the media pushing for Richmond to get JOM or Mitchell.

Think we take kids and that's it. Not sure I agree with not topping up the midfield at the very least, but at the same time can also understand the hesitancy to unload good picks for Mitchell when it is not a sure thing to turn this team back into a legitimate flag threat.

I think Dustan was the move as a moneyball guy to fix an area of need. Now I don't see any other options.

 

[prodigy]

JOM v Mitchell

I would rather mitchell at Richmond than JOM to be honest
JOM is 14 months younger but more injury prone and i personally think mitchell has another 5 years of football in him. Not sure JOM does
Also Mitchell fits our need more than JOM

That's fair, I just think O'Meara's ceiling is higher and has a bit more of an x-factor way about him. Tom Mitchell is a supreme ball winner sure, but he doesn't hurt the opposition. That may be different in our system, but I still prefer O'Meara, injury history and all. Completely understand the opposing view though.

 

[Dr Tigris]

Not saying I want to do this.

But let me throw a brash, hypothetical - your way.

Pick 7 - Not enough for the boys we want. We can't get a trade done for a higher Pick.

Do we go to Hawthorn.

Richmond: "We give you 7, 15 and CCJ Compo you give us JOM, Gunston & Tom Mitchell. We know we're paying overs, we know Hawthorn rebuilding... take 50% of their salary too"

Now, im not saying I agree to it - so don't thumb me down! It would be good to hear other perspectives. It would be good to talk about something different.

Take 26, 28, 38, 42, 44 to the draft - picks we've used to nail players like Bolton, Balta, Graham, etc. And bring in two contested winning beasts, and a proven gun goal kicker who suddenly take us from being potentially having an over the hill midfield, to oh boy, we've got a lot going for us here...

If it's a failure? We've got next year to hit the draft and the year after that. But how often do we have a premiership calibre team on our list?

Going for Tarrant was a sign were aiming for a premiership. Tom Mitchell will play every game, he will win us the ball. JOM is a risk, but along with Prestia, they can go part time in the midfield. Dusty, Gunston can go forward and support the slow moving Jack and Tom show.

You go into 2022 - not half and half, you go in, all in, for the premiership.

7 and 15 is way overs - but if they take a chunk of the salaries, it gives us a huge opportunity to go for number 14. It's out of the Geelong play book

B: Grimes, Balta, Short
HB: Vlastuin, Tarrant, Rioli
C: Cotchin, O'Meara, Graham
HF: Martin, Riewoldt, Edwards
F: Gunston, Lynch, Bolton
R: Nankveris, Mitchell, Prestia
I/C: Soldo, Pickett, Baker, Broad

Now that's a ******* team, don't @ me

Like the thinking. Not sure I'd do it. But it'd get us right into the next 2 years of contention.

 

[_RT_]

 

[Marcel Proust]

That's fair, I just think O'Meara's ceiling is higher and has a bit more of an x-factor way about him. Tom Mitchell is a supreme ball winner sure, but he doesn't hurt the opposition. That may be different in our system, but I still prefer O'Meara, injury history and all. Completely understand the opposing view though.

He is 28 next season and made of glass. How long do you wait on potential?

 

[richoatthedisco]

Clark didn;t

Yeah, he did.

It makes some sense to top up in the dusty window. Assuming he comes good.

It's not everyday toy have the core of a 3 flag side to work with and it's a hard and even comp.

Cue the SpongeBob I don't want to be hawthorn/Geelong

Mmm. Get Taranto though.

There’s only 15 months between the pair. Hard to go past Mitchell where we’re guaranteed 30+ a week. We’re not a high possession player team so it’ll be interesting to see if we go panicking buying next week

JOM averaged more clearances and contested possessions per game this year. He's quicker and a better kick and comes out the front of the stoppage. Mitchell was top-3 for uncontested possessions per game but not top-20 for contested. Not sure you want a slow bloke who can't kick racking up the uncontested.

Let's just get Taranto.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Not saying I want to do this.

But let me throw a brash, hypothetical - your way.

Pick 7 - Not enough for the boys we want. We can't get a trade done for a higher Pick.

Do we go to Hawthorn.

Richmond: "We give you 7, 15 and CCJ Compo you give us JOM, Gunston & Tom Mitchell. We know we're paying overs, we know Hawthorn rebuilding... take 50% of their salary too"

Now, im not saying I agree to it - so don't thumb me down! It would be good to hear other perspectives. It would be good to talk about something different.

Take 26, 28, 38, 42, 44 to the draft - picks we've used to nail players like Bolton, Balta, Graham, etc. And bring in two contested winning beasts, and a proven gun goal kicker who suddenly take us from being potentially having an over the hill midfield, to oh boy, we've got a lot going for us here...

If it's a failure? We've got next year to hit the draft and the year after that. But how often do we have a premiership calibre team on our list?

Going for Tarrant was a sign were aiming for a premiership. Tom Mitchell will play every game, he will win us the ball. JOM is a risk, but along with Prestia, they can go part time in the midfield. Dusty, Gunston can go forward and support the slow moving Jack and Tom show.

You go into 2022 - not half and half, you go in, all in, for the premiership.

7 and 15 is way overs - but if they take a chunk of the salaries, it gives us a huge opportunity to go for number 14. It's out of the Geelong play book

B: Grimes, Balta, Short
HB: Vlastuin, Tarrant, Rioli
C: Cotchin, O'Meara, Graham
HF: Martin, Riewoldt, Edwards
F: Gunston, Lynch, Bolton
R: Nankveris, Mitchell, Prestia
I/C: Soldo, Pickett, Baker, Broad

Now that's a ******* team, don't @ me

Give them caddy too so the salaries work

 

[prodigy]