List Mgmt. Trade: National Draft selection no. 21 traded to St Kilda for Rhys Stanley and selection no. 60

[Cataholic]

Just saw this from the AFL Website, seems Walker is safe.

The Cats have recruited for the future, it seems.

Football manager Neil Balme has told media gathered at AFL House Mitch Clark and Rhys Stanley are viewed as long-term players for the club.

He admitted there was risk associated with Clark but the Cats won't place any pressure on him for next season. They've backed his athleticism and ability to get fit quick.

And, they've assured Josh Walker's future, with their plethora of tall players to provide healthy competition for spots in 2015.

Interesting.

Sounds like he'll be setting his own pace during the off / pre-season.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Interesting.

Sounds like he'll be setting his own pace during the off / pre-season.

No mention of Brown, so he's gone.

 

[TheJimmyCartel]

These stats are wrong.

They're pretty close...

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-geelong-cats--hamish-mcintosh

 

[Cataholic]

No mention of Brown, so he's gone.[/QUOT

Yeah, looks that way.

 

[FredLeDeux]

He also does have clear potential. He has shown infinitely more already than Brown, Walker and Vardy as a forward so far in his career. Whether he lives up to his potential, whether his 'highlights' can become 'regular-lights', remains to be seen. But in Geelong's system you would back him in.
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I don't know whether he's a good recruit or not; however, Vardy has 40-odd games fewer than him and significantly better statistics as a ruckman/forward - slightly fewer kicks & handballs (8 to 10), but more than twice the hitouts (11 to 5), and 20-30% more goals per game (0.9 to 0.7), at much better accuracy. Stanley has better marking stats, but they are identical for contested marks.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Doubt he would have toweled up West like he did Blitz and Walker.

Could've also had Grundy.

We could have had Grundy, yes. That would also mean no Thurlow who I think has a very bright future. West wouldn't have been toweled up as bad as those two, but Goldstein would have still beaten him quite well.

 

[Grimoz]

No mention of Brown, so he's gone.

Could be Brown, HMac or Simpson

 

[Lana]

They're pretty close...

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pc-geelong-cats--hamish-mcintosh

My bad, I thought he was talking about Stanley...

 

[Biggy_Boy]

We could have had Grundy, yes. That would also mean no Thurlow who I think has a very bright future. West wouldn't have been toweled up as bad as those two, but Goldstein would have still beaten him quite well.

Grundy was and is a better prospect than Thurlow. Also the type of player we needed more.

 

[catman2006]

can we bundle Hunt and Brown together for a 4 round pick we would still be getting overs

 

[Lana]

I don't know whether he's a good recruit or not; however, Vardy has 40-odd games fewer than him and significantly better statistics as a ruckman/forward - slightly fewer kicks & handballs (8 to 10), but more than twice the hitouts (11 to 5), and 20-30% more goals per game (0.9 to 0.7), at much better accuracy. Stanley has better marking stats, but they are identical for contested marks.

I wouldn't use career averages to prove anything... he spent 2013 as a key defender, you'd think that would put a dent in your goals per game number.

 

[The rabbi]

Doubt he would have toweled up West like he did Blitz and Walker.

Could've also had Grundy.

 

[r32godzilla]

That was made in 2010.

Hence why I said 'early' highlights

 

[Cataholic]

Could be Brown, HMac or Simpson

Could be, but probabilities say Brown

 

[Biggy_Boy]

Hence why I said 'early' highlights

But it's kind of pointless now. We should be looking at his 'highlights' from his recent AFL career. Surely he's progressed somewhat in the last four years?

 

[Grimoz]

Could be, but probabilities say Brown

But who's to say that Simpson or HMac arent retiring? Brown is not part of that "Ruck" group where Walker is hence why they feel the need to say he is safe.

 

[vinum coupe]

Grundy was and is a better prospect than Thurlow. Also the type of player we needed more.

ha ha ha.
It's started already.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Debatable, but I think most here would've taken some comfort from seeing P21 used on a mid, even if we had to wait a little for any benefit to be forthcoming.

However, what's done is done and I am a supporter of the GFC, so I'll strap in, hold on, and see where the hell this ride takes me.

Why? Our midfield this year was Johnson, Selwood, Caddy, Horlin-Smith, Christensen, Duncan, Motlop and Guthrie. Christensen is gone but didn't play much. Apart from that only Johnson is even getting close to retirement age. We've also got Hartman, McCarthy, Smedts, Lang and Jansen who are all young and expected to play significant time in the midfield in future. If there's anywhere we're not short on young talent it's in the midfield we've just got to give them time to develop.

 

[corio bay]

Could be Brown, HMac or Simpson

why not both?

 

[Nankervis brothers]

I don't know whether he's a good recruit or not; however, Vardy has 40-odd games fewer than him and significantly better statistics as a ruckman/forward - slightly fewer kicks & handballs (8 to 10), but more than twice the hitouts (11 to 5), and 20-30% more goals per game (0.9 to 0.7), at much better accuracy. Stanley has better marking stats, but they are identical for contested marks.

I'm not sure whether he's a good recruit either, but I can see where the club is coming from with this trade. Fair call on Vardy, a bit tough of me putting him in that company; he has shown more than Brown and Walker.

 

[JUBJUB]

Google 2009 GF Sprint.

Hey are we the only club with 2 GF sprint winners ?

 

[SleazySimon]

2 hours in an exam and I don't know what has me more uneasy, worrying about my result or geelong giving up 21 for Stanley. They must see something in him but geez 21 is a bit steep to offer up on exposed form, must be based on that wonderful word 'potential'.

Trying to replicate Hawthorn now.
They had more forwards than the Harlem Globetrotters - Franklin, Roughhead, Gunston, Hale, O'Brien, Hodge and Shoenmakers.
Their fans were wondering WTF they were doing.
Roughhead had stints down back, in the ruck and can play onball. Hale was forced into the ruck. Hodge and Shoe were played down back.
Now we are trying to do the same.

 

[Seeds]

Brown will walk whether we delist him or not, he will want gametime elsewhere.

he wont get anywhere else. no one will want him. really dont see how you guys dont get that.

 

[Cataholic]

Why? Our midfield this year was Johnson, Selwood, Caddy, Horlin-Smith, Christensen, Duncan, Motlop and Guthrie. Christensen is gone but didn't play much. Apart from that only Johnson is even getting close to retirement age. We've also got Hartman, McCarthy, Smedts, Lang and Jansen who are all young and expected to play significant time in the midfield in future. If there's anywhere we're not short on young talent it's in the midfield we've just got to give them time to develop.

Don't necessarily disagree with you, and wasn't stating it as the absolute necessity, but was just conveying the overwhelming sentiment of most posters here.

I posted earlier that I assume the GFC have conceded 2015 and will use it to pump as many games into the youngsters, like those you mentioned, so we have a competitive midfield come 2016/17.

 

[Seeds]

Brown will walk whether we delist him or not, he will want gametime elsewhere.

he wont get anywhere else. If no one wants Hunt then Brown has buckleys chance. no one will want him. really dont see how you guys dont get that.