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I'd do it for Smith and Draper for sure, even though they're both on the smaller side.
Any idea how many points we have (excluding 1 & 21)
We should keep 21 as it has its own value given you get 24 hours for teams to make offers. The strength of this draft may result in a good F1 pick for us to deathride. Collingwood love to trade F1's and then shit the bed a year later
Yeah, but we don't need to give away pick 1, we just have to make sure we try and beat other teams to the Suns, Lions or Blues 1st round picks. I think Essendon's 1st rounder comes into the frame now as well considering they can match any bid on Kako.
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I think we will need to get flogged 1 or 2 more times to really lock in pick 1.
There isnt much seperating us and Norf
There isnt much seperating us and Norf
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Daniel Rioli and Picks 34, 39, 41, 52 and 57 to Gold Coast for picks 8 and 9 and a future 3rd.
Allows GC to get Rioli, get enough points for Lombard. We get two top ten picks which in this draft is bloody huge.
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Biggest positive from cals phantom form guide is that Sims, Faull, and Shanahan are available in the second round, and Jack whitlock is at 18. Means we don't need to reach for a need and we can focus on adding best available and difference making mids with our first few picks.
I really like Hotton, Travaglia and Berry in the mid-late first round i'd love to see them in the yellow and black
With our first pick it's still one of Smilie/FOS/Lalor for me, and big on Reid as well
I really like Hotton, Travaglia and Berry in the mid-late first round i'd love to see them in the yellow and black
With our first pick it's still one of Smilie/FOS/Lalor for me, and big on Reid as well
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Draft Power Rankings: New No. 1 emerges after National Championships
A new No. 1 has emerged following the U18 National Championships, while some bolters have also made their move after strong showings, writes Jasper Chellappah. Plus, every prospect's carnival stats, in ESPN's July Draft Power Rankings.
1. Sid Draper (June ranking: 3)
South Adelaide/South Australia
MID, 182cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 21.0 disposals, 3.8 clearances, 2.8 marks
There's a new No. 1 at the top of the board. Draper returned from injury for SA and took time picking up the pace of play, but by the end of the carnival he was at his explosive best. The past two weeks at SANFL level have shown the on-baller is AFL ready. Draper is tough, courageous, powerful and all-consuming in his pursuit of the football. He's one-touch fighting for contested balls and takes on would-be tacklers with an elite turn of pace, then has the foot skills in the open field to spot up leading forwards. Draper has averaged 25 disposals and 10.5 tackles in two SANFL outings, elevating his standing atop the draft rankings with inspiring defensive intensity.
2. Jagga Smith (4)
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID, 181cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 29.3 disposals, 6.8 clearances, 4.8 marks
Smith led the country for disposals at the national carnival and did it while spending a chunk of each game resting forward. He is the draft's best prospect at whisking the ball from congestion into open space, finding teammates with crafty kicks and weighted handballs. Smith went at 82% per outing, with nearly half of his disposals contested. The knocks on the maestro are twofold; he's a diminutive figure in the engine room and isn't a metres gained player, averaging a tick under 20 metres per disposal. On Sunday he laid those concerns to rest with a true captain's performance, fighting through physical targeting from Country to be his side's most influential midfielder with eight clearances and 425 metres gained. His heroic performance included winning the final pivotal clearance of the game which led to Luke Trainor's game-winning goal after the siren
3. Leonardo Lombard (6)
SUNS Academy/Allies
MID/FWD, 178cm 2024
Champs: 4 games, 26.2 disposals, 4.8 clearances, 1.0 goals
Lombard was named a joint Larke Medallist after leading from the front for the Allies throughout the championships. The on-baller boasts incredible top speed and the strength to dominate on the inside, exerting his physical dominance at VFL level after winning a premiership last season. Lombard is at his best linking play in transition and driving the ball forward. The Suns are certainties to match a bid for the Gold Coast Academy product.
4. Finn O'Sullivan (2)
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country
MID, 182cm 2024
Champs: 2 games, 11.5 disposals, 1.5 marks, 3.5 tackles
It's been a frustrating campaign for O'Sullivan who was visibly underdone in his return from a fractured finger. He played off the wing for Vic Country but wasn't his typical damaging self. Last season as a bottom-ager for his state he averaged 17 disposals and looked every bit a pick one contender. Recruiters still view him as such, with his floor as a prospect as high as anyone in his draft class. The cousin of Sam Walsh possesses a similarly insatiable work rate and blend of inside-outside craft. O'Sullivan's elite aerial ability gives him a point of difference in a midfield-heavy draft, but will need to recapture his best to challenge for the first selection this year.
5. Josh Smillie (1)
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
MID, 194cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 18.8 disposals, 5.8 clearances, 3.5 tackles
Smillie has all the tools to end up the best player in his draft class. He possesses unmatched size and strength as an inside midfielder and has used it to great effect at times this season. But he couldn't solidify his pick one claim at the national carnival, failing to take a contested mark and going at 56% by foot through four games. The Ranges star was visibly frustrated on Sunday against Vic Country, but still had moments of brilliance powering out of congestion. Smillie remains in the pick one race but needs to prove his potency in open play.
6. Sam Lalor (9)
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
MID, 187cm
2024 Champs: 3 games, 11.0 disposals, 5.0 marks, 1.3 goals
Lalor is a match-up nightmare, routinely winning contested one-on-ones both at ground level and in the air. His most damaging moments have come as a makeshift full forward, leading full-chested out of the goal square and clunking marks above his head. Lalor offers an abundance of raw power and defensive tenacity through the midfield, plus hits the scoreboard forward of centre. He spent the majority of his championships playing deep forward as he was eased back after an injury layoff, and the co-captain's leadership came to the fore after the final siren, bringing his Country squad into a tight knit huddle after tough umpiring decisions cost his side.
7. Levi Ashcroft (5)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
MID, 179cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 25.5 disposals, 3.2 clearances, 1.0 goals
Ashcroft has been a dominant midfielder throughout his junior career, and may end up with three Coates Talent League premierships to go with his Vic Metro title this season. The younger brother of Brisbane's Will is equally as hard working, getting from contest to contest and accumulating possessions. He's a neat ball user and has a penchant of getting forward to hit the scoreboard, but lacks the top end speed of his older brother. Ashcroft is yet to nominate Brisbane under the father-son rule but is expected to do so closer to November.
8. Tobie Travaglia (12)
Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
DEF, 187cm 2024
Champs: 4 games, 21.8 disposals, 6.2 marks, 8.2 intercepts
Travaglia was desperately unlucky in the final minute of Sunday's decider, giving up a holding free kick and an abuse 50 metre penalty that put Vic Metro in front after the siren. But it won't detract from his exploits throughout the four quarters. Travaglia is an elite rebounder off halfback, showcasing all of the speed, dare and skill necessary for the modern-day defender. He's a desperate and courageous defender to go with his offensive firepower. Travaglia led the championships for intercept marks with 3.5 per outing and used the ball at 85%. It was a dominant carnival that put him in the top-10 frame.
9. Luke Trainor (7)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
DEF, 194cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 19.8 disposals, 5.8 marks, 4.5 intercepts
Trainor will forever be remembered for a goal after the siren to beat Vic Country in one of the great national championship games. It's a testament to his immense aerial prowess that he was swung forward late to win the game for Vic Metro and delivered. Trainor is the premier tall in the draft, playing above his size when necessary and reading the play with aplomb. The interceptor is also an elite rebounding defender, taking the kick ins for his sides and showcasing a penetrating right boot. Trainor doesn't have genuine key position height at the next level so will need to play alongside those types to be effective.
10. Harvey Langford
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
MID, 190cm
2024 Champs: 25.5 disposals, 6.2 clearances, 6.2 marks
Langford was named Vic Country's MVP and the joint Larke Medallist after a truly dominant carnival through the middle of the park. The big-bodied on-baller proved impossible to contain at stoppage, but it was his transition run and carry that impressed the most. Langford took a huge pack mark at the top of the goal square in the final term on Sunday as he willed his side to the line, but also had a costly miss late in the piece. He led Vic Country for disposals, contested possessions, clearances, inside 50s, score involvements and metres gained across the championships.
11. Xavier Lindsay
Gippsland Power/Vic Country
MID, 183cm
2024 Champs: 3 games, 22.7 disposals, 4.3 clearances, 6.7 marks
Lindsay saved his best championship performance for last, slicing Vic Metro apart in the first half off a wing. He's quick and classy off his left foot, routinely setting up scoring opportunities with laser-like incision. Lindsay averaged 6.3 score involvements and 449 metres gained across his three games, second to just Langford in both categories for Country.
12. Joe Berry (11)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 180cm 2024
Champs: 4 games, 13.2 disposals, 2.8 tackles, 2.2 goals
Berry possesses all the traits to thrive as a small forward at the next level. He's quick and agile with brilliant goal sense off both feet. He can work up the ground and push hard back to goal in transition, or is equally adept at the forward's feet crumbing around goals. His tackling technique and intensity without the ball is superb, and he injected much-needed energy into Country's centre square brigade in the final term. Berry doesn't have a weakness in his game as a small forward, and has genuine midfield scope at the next level given his speed and skill.
13. Taj Hotton (10)
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD/MID, 182cm
Talent League: 3 games, 28.7 disposals, 7.3 marks, 1.7 goals
Hotton tore his ACL at training in May. It was a cruel blow for an early riser in the draft pool after a stunning start to his campaign where he was the Dragons' standout midfielder amongst Ashcroft and Murphy Reid. Hotton is incredibly agile and clean, able to find space and distribute beautifully through the corridor. He's played long stints of his junior football in the forward line and has the goal nous to prove effective.
14. Isaac Kako (13)
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
FWD, 175cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 14.5 disposals, 1.2 tackles, 2.0 goals
Kako has the bag of tricks befitting the game's best small forward. He kicks goals on the fly regularly, hitting the contest at full steam and exiting with ball in hand. He's an excitement machine and converted his set shots on the weekend, plus has the acceleration and energy to become an excellent pressure forward. Kako was Vic Metro's most consistent forward across the championships, and has shown flashes of on-ball ability for the Cannons. As an Essendon NGA product, the Bombers could be the biggest beneficiary of sweeping changes to NGA bidding rules.
15. Bo Allan (16)
Peel Thunder/Western Australia
DEF/MID, 191cm
2024 Champs: 3 games, 20.0 disposals, 3.7 clearances, 6.0 tackles
Allan is a bruising, combative midfielder. His incredible strength and frame helps him win a lot of contested ball and he boasts one of the better defensive workrates of anyone in the draft. Allan's leadership was enormous for WA and he's stepped up to the senior WAFL side off halfback where his competitiveness holds him in good stead.
16. Murphy Reid
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
MID, 180cm 2024
Champs: 24.5 disposals, 3.2 clearances, 1.0 goals
Reid oozes class and his silky disposal is a joy to watch. Whether it's up forward or through the midfield he always seems to create time and space for himself, and was deservedly named Vic Metro's MVP on Sunday. Reid will get top-10 considerations from many clubs given his brilliant campaign, but there remain concerns around his athletic profile as he steps up to the next level. Producing against VFL competition in the back half of the year would alleviate any questions about his ability to play his style against bigger bodies.
17. Alex Dodson (14)
Sturt/South Australia
RUC, 203cm
2024 Champs: 3 games, 17.3 disposals, 19.7 hitouts, 3.7 clearances
It's rare for a top-ranked draft prospect to be undecided on his future, but Dodson is yet to choose between basketball and football. The smooth-moving tall established himself as the draft's best ruck prospect for SA, able to win clearances and follow up post-stoppage with strong athleticism and skills. He loves the ball in his hands and works hard to provide an option around the ground, but needs to build strength to win more hitouts and become a better contested mark.
18. Jobe Shanahan
Bendigo Pioneers/Allies
FWD, 194cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 12.2 disposals, 5.5 marks, 1.2 goals
Shanahan is a genuine key forward target with his supreme vertical leap and sticky hands. He led the Allies for score involvements at 6.2 per game and took his opportunities with a beautiful set shot routine that extends well outside the 50 metre arc. The Moama native's two contested marks per game were the most in the country.
19. Christian Moraes (8)
Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 183cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 20.8 disposals, 5.8 marks, 0.8 goals
Moraes was forced out of the Vic Metro midfield rotation, but was still prolific at half forward and off halfback. He's an incredible gut-runner and typically grows stronger as the game progresses. Moraes didn't execute his set shots in the final term on Sunday and was wayward in his ball use in the frantic conditions. At his mercurial best he kicks goals and links up in transition with dash.
20. Harry Armstrong
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
FWD, 195cm
2024 Champs: 3 games, 9.0 disposals, 5.0 marks, 3.0 goals
Armstrong took time to get going this season, but has now kicked 12 goals from three Talent League games and ended up Vic Metro's top goalkicker from three matches. He was the difference between the sides on Sunday; when everyone around him missed he kept his composure and nailed all five shots at goal. He also took two huge contested marks in the final term and has elevated himself to first round standing.
21. Ben Camporeale (17)
Glenelg/South Australia
MID/DEF, 186cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 26.8 disposals, 4.5 clearances, 3.8 tackles
Camporeale took out SA's MVP for the carnival with a strong showing through the midfield. He's a desperate and determined contested ball winner, able to rip the ball out of contests and force it forward. There are better athletes and kicks at the top of the pool, but few can match Camporeale's intensity at the coalface. Ben's twin Lucas looms as a second-round prospect and both are expected to end up at the Blues under the father-son rule.
22. Kayle Gerreyn
West Perth/Western Australia
RUCK/FWD, 199cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 12.5 disposals, 9.0 hitouts, 1.2 goals
Gerreyn is an incredible athlete for his size, with power and acceleration that defies his big frame. He competes hard in the ruck but up forward is where he's best suited, beating opponents on leads and in pack situations. He's an exciting prospect with a huge ceiling as a forward who can pinch hit in the ruck.
23. Jack Whitlock (18)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
FWD, 200cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 14.8 disposals, 5.0 marks, 1.0 goals
Whitlock had a strong finish to his championships campaign on Sunday with several strong contested marks around the ground. He's a good athlete with an exciting upside given the gains he has to make in filling out his 200cm frame. There remain big question marks on his goalkicking and ability to impact when the ball hits the ground, but his aerial upside could see him taken in the top 10.
24. Samuel Marshall (19)
Sandringham Dragons/Allies
MID, 185cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 27.0 disposals, 4.0 clearances, 3.8 tackles
Marshall is just about the hardest running player in the class, covering a huge distance to help out the defensive unit and follow up inside 50. He led the Allies for disposals and averaged five score involvements per contest. The workhouse on-baller is aligned with Brisbane through the Lions Academy.
25. Jonty Faull
GWV Rebels/Vic Country
FWD, 195cm
2024 Champs: 3 games, 8.3 disposals, 3.3 marks, 1.7 goals
Faull has missed a chunk of the season through injury and wasn't at his best through the champs, but his work rate was still excellent. He acts as the outlet out of defence and pushes hard forward to get on the end of attacking chains with great aerobic capacity. He kicked five goals in his injury return for the Rebels and entered the season as one of the premier talls.
26. Tom Gross
Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
MID/FWD, 181cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 20.0 disposals, 5.2 marks, 0.5 goals
Gross was a strong presence for the undefeated Vic Metro side through the midfield and at half forward. As opposed to some other on-ballers, Gross thrives ahead of the football with his aerial ability a real feature. He plays above his size and has real power through his hips to break tackles and create separation on the lead. He isn't in the top echelon of midfielders at this juncture but possesses strings to his bow that others don't.
27. Harry O'Farrell (20)
Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
DEF, 196cm
2024 Champs: 2 games, 4.0 disposals, 1.5 marks, 2.0 intercepts
O'Farrell is a stout key defender but was unable to fully show his wares at the championships due to an injury suffered in his second game. His defensive instincts are gold class, with the reach to play from behind and recover with good closing speed. He can take pack marks and has flashed upside as a forward in his school commitments for St Kevin's.
28. Matt Whitlock (15)
Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
DEF/FWD, 199cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 14.0 disposals, 4.8 marks, 3.2 intercepts
Whitlock played the majority of his championships at fullback where he looks most at home. He was disruptive against Vic Metro in tough matchups, but also had moments of panic with the ball under pressure. His athletic scope is exciting with good closing speed and great reach, but figures to be a long-term development project at either end of the ground.
29. Cooper Hynes
Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
FWD/MID, 190cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 16.8 disposals, 4.8 marks, 1.0 goals
Hynes is a powerful athlete that ignites midfields with short stints on-ball and creates energy and pressure up forward. He does everything full-chested and takes the game on, often breaking through tackles and having shots on goal at full pace. His best outing this year was a 27-disposal, four-goal haul against the Lions Academy.
30. Hamish Davis
Claremont/Western Australia
FWD/MID, 190cm
2024 Champs: 4 games, 14.5 disposals, 4.0 marks, 1.8 goals
Davis is a strong-bodied forward able to kick goals in a variety of ways. He was WA's best avenue to goal, but on the weekend he transformed Claremont's midfield with an utterly dominant display. Davis had 40 disposals and a goal, bursting from stoppage and finding targets inside 50 all game. It was an eye-opening performance from the utility who has played off halfback and the wing as well, but looked at home in the centre square.
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Going to need a top 10 is my worry. Hopefully Baker goes to Freo and he's available at whatever pick that is.
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No info just that he has a decision to make now. Get his old man a job at the club coaching our academy kids in Bendigo and it makes our case a lot stronger.
The Lizards old man played 220+ games for #lolNorf and yet he picked the Swans.
There is precedent for it.
Those who are saying he is going to Carlton are clueless. The kid is more than 2 years away from being drafted. He has plenty of time to decide and it just got a lot easier for us to get him.
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This seems to be a very doable deal, however, points will run out at pick 53 this year so 52 and 57 are effectively worthless.
If we want to keep Rioli we do the same deal but its pick 1 plus 34, 39, 41 & 52 for picks 8, 9 & 20.
That gives us 8, 9, 12 (Baker) 20, 21, 57 and whatever we get for Graham.
That gives us Lalor, Reid, Henderson, Lindsay & Faull. Our best draft haul in the history of the club.
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If we can turn Baker into Armstrong, we are ****ing geniuses
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You would have to think his manager is telling him, Freo, good list, young and up and coming, I mean players like Serong and Brayshaw are stand up guys, footballers footballers. It would be an enticing pitch.
WC, would be a bloody hard sell unless its crazy money.
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Murphy Reid has been the biggest bolter in the draft class through this Champs series, from back end of the first round to comfortably inside the top 10. He done this by showing how his innate poise and class becomes more valuable the higher the level and the more intense the pressure. In this final champs game he didn't have his most prolific game, but there were a few moment of sheer class and creativity that few if any can match in this draft pool.
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Reminds me Cotchin. Same movement out of a contest. He could be no.1 by end of the year.
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Cotchin but with Gulden's foot skills....
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The prospect of having 3 top 15 picks gives me a raging stiffy.
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A wild ride of ups and downs in this game for Trainor. In the opening half he was matched up predominantly on Jonty Faull and blanketed him extremely well. In the second half he was shifted onto Jack Whitlock who exposed some of Trainor's limitations against the super tall 200cm forwards as Whitlock outmarked him on several occasions by simply reaching up to a higher point than Trainor was capable of, and Trainor failed to use his body or block his run at the footy. During this period, Trainor also committed some damaging turnovers by foot and seemed to be out of sorts. But in a final dramatic twist, he pushed himself forward with seconds remaining and Metro in need of a goal, won the pivotal free kick and 50 meter penalty and kicked the winning goal from point blank range.
tigs2010
Pick 1...
Smillie didn't make AA lol
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It's not funny.
tigs2010
Pick 1...
Is a little
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