Trade period / National Draft 2024

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[tigs2010]

Name?

Archie Ludowyke. Posted some pics in this thread of him taking a couple of screamers.

 

[Nostradumbass]

Archie Ludowyke. Posted some pics in this thread of him taking a couple of screamers.

Found one from a year ago against WA

 

[tigs2010]

Found one from a year ago against WA

That was one of them. Massive

 

[shaky]

The odds of selecting the best and ultimately most highly regarded player at pick 1 in any draft are pretty slim so I wouldn't worry about all the inevitable noise around that. If we take pick 1 at the draft and get an elite player we win, end of. People going nuts trying to compare say Walsh with whoever else is in form from that draft at any given time and saying Rozee/Butters/Rankine etc etc are better than Walsh doesn't alter the fact Walsh is an elite player and a very good selection at pick 1.

It is just as simple as that. If we get an elite player we have done well, if we don't then we have either been unlucky or not selected so well. Expecting the number 1 selection to be the best player in every draft is like expecting the number 1 ranked player to win every golf tournament. It is just not realistic.

Totally agree, I just hate the attitude some in here have that we need to get pick 1 to get the best available player.
1. There is no stand out this year and
2. Even if there us a clear number 1 come draft night, they may not end up the best.
I can't wait for the season to be over so I don't have to read these post saying we need to lose matches to make sure we get pick 1. I hate that loser mentality with a passion.

 

[TigersRoar]

Cal Twomey suggested we could trade Baker and Bolton to Fremantle for picks 6, 12, 15, and then Dan Rioli to Gold Coast for picks 7 and 10 (we'd likely have to give a sweetener back the other way).

How would people feel about this? I'd do it in a heartbeat.

Rocking up to the draft with 1, 6, 7, 10, 12, 15 plus possibly a couple of second rounders, that's a crazy start to a rebuild.

Hard to see some of our premiership players leave but I think we'll be in no mans land for a few years. If we could turn those players into:
1. Draper - Think he looks the most pick 1 out of the crop
6. Lalor or slider from the top 5
7. Same as above.
10. Armstrong
12. Hotton or package this pick up with 15 or 21 for someones future first (They shouldn't but try west coast)

Take a slider taller key forward with the left over 15 or 21 because there were a few later ones according to phantoms. Thats a good start to a rebuild with a couple of picks next year too. Get our spine fast tracked, an explosive mid and explosive mid forward with Taranto and Hopper still there, we can get a younger inside mid in the coming drafts.

 

[tigs2010]

Draper and McAuliffe in the guts next year would be good to watch. A couple of explosive left footed bulls.

Draper is a righty.

 

[Ctl]

I’ve thought about and suggested trading next years first into this years but it’s not worth it, if baker and Rioli leave we will already have an abundance of picks this year where we can load up mids, (Lalor, Travaglia, Hotton, Smillie, Langford, FOS, Allan) and draft a key forward ( Simms and/or Shanahan). Then we can near on complete the rebuild if we draft Ludowyke as a key forward in 2025 then get Armstrong a back flanker as an NGA player in 2026, along with our own first round pick that year.

 

[noobermensch]

Langford had a superb Champs series and was duly named joint winner of the Larke medal for player of the tournament.

 

[guruisatiger]

Don't think we'll be trading our first this season. Campo twins are shaping up to be bid on around that 25-35 mark for Ben and Lucas further back than that.

Think we'll be looking to add a first round kid or two if we can this year to group up with Cody Walker and a couple of NGA kids on their way over the next 2 years as the next young core for our team.

Would be shattered if we did and missed out on Travaglia by doing so too, he'd be a great pick for us as a side who lack speed across the park.

If not you my friend
Then brisbane
Good luck Saturday night

 

[guruisatiger]

Just had a message from a clairvoyant
Said we had 8 picks in the national draft
Between pick 4 and 25
Will tell me later on who these 8 picks are
She is a medium
Very rare is she wrong
Does everything well done

 

[Ctl]

Just had a message from a clairvoyant
Said we had 8 picks in the national draft
Between pick 4 and 25
Will tell me later on who these 8 picks are
She is a medium
Very rare is she wrong
Does everything well done

Trade back with adelaide pick 1 for pick 4 + extras

Would mean we trade all of Bolton, Baker and Rioli and secure Brisbanes 1st

 

[tiger_tough]

Draper is a righty.

 

[tigs2010]

Trade back with adelaide pick 1 for pick 4 + extras

Would mean we trade all of Bolton, Baker and Rioli and secure Brisbanes 1st

Get to 8 if Graham goes and Bolton stays if we split pick.

 

[Ctl]

Get to 8 if Graham goes and Bolton stays if we split pick.

I'm not sold on Graham getting a band 3, think he'll end up being band 4 with his injuries.

And Adelaide only have pick 4 and 28, if the trading of picks two years in advance comes in, I could see them trading pick 4 and a 2026 1st to get Draper at pick 1 and stay in the SA heavy 2025 draft

 

[shaky]

Trade back with adelaide pick 1 for pick 4 + extras

Would mean we trade all of Bolton, Baker and Rioli and secure Brisbanes 1st

Wouldn't mind if we traded back to 4 if we could get a really good deal out of it.
If we could get 4 plus their future first would be ideal, obviously something extra from us, a late second rounder this year perhaps.
Would then possibly give us 2 top 5 picks next year or at least we could use it this year to trade in another early pick.

 

[tigs2010]

I'm not sold on Graham getting a band 3, think he'll end up being band 4 with his injuries.

And Adelaide only have pick 4 and 28, if the trading of picks two years in advance comes in, I could see them trading pick 4 and a 2026 1st to get Draper at pick 1 and stay in the SA heavy 2025 draft

There's a top SA kid in that too. We may see 3 x SA #1 picks in a row. Don't think Adelaide will be in contention for a pick 1 so may not care. They should be pushing finals with a decent coach.

 

[59Stanley]

Langford had a superb Champs series and was duly named joint winner of the Larke medal for player of the tournament.

He is a local lad from Mt Martha Mounties. Might not be speedy enough for AFL but very good at the level he is playing now.

 

[tiger_tough]

Rioli and F2 to Suns for 6 & 11.
Baker to Freo for pick 12.
Later picks to Lions for pick 17.

6 & 11 to Norf for pick 3.

Pick #1 Draper
#3 Jagga/FOS/Lalor
#12 Armstrong
#17 Faull/Whitlock/Whitlock/Shanahan

 

[Coach_Required]

Rioli and F2 to Suns for 6 & 11.
Baker to Freo for pick 12.
Later picks to Lions for pick 17.

6 & 11 to Norf for pick 3.

Pick #1 Draper
#3 Jagga/FOS/Lalor
#12 Armstrong
#21 Faull/Whitlock/Whitlock/Shanahan

Would be nice, not sure Baker ends up at Freo but it would be nice.

 

[59Stanley]

Rioli and F2 to Suns for 6 & 11.
Baker to Freo for pick 12.
Later picks to Lions for pick 17.

6 & 11 to Norf for pick 3.

Pick #1 Draper
#3 Jagga/FOS/Lalor
#12 Armstrong
#21 Faull/Whitlock/Whitlock/Shanahan

TT............delicious

 

[59Stanley]

Ive just gone through a few package highlights of Draper again. Cant wait for the combine testing. This kid is very fast and those first few steps are mad. His skills are elite too.` My new number 1

 

[tunksy]

My real reservations with Jagga is his body type.

He's got as much girth as Gumby. Doesn't have an athletic body type for a professional footballer, more like a gymnast or lucha libre wrestler on mexico. Gives me Thomson Dow vibes.

For a bull midfielder, how does he compete in the centre against players like Rowell, Bont, Petracca, Oliver? He needs size, but five pre seasons in, I see no size on Dow, so my hopes on our fitness team are minuscule

And yet first game in vfl in the mind you did more than dow has ever done against mature bodies.

Some players just have it. Some don’t.

Jaggas body type remind me more of cotch

 

[T4P]

I'm basing my own opinion of Smillie not so much on numbers, just the "look" of him, and right now he is not my choice.

Just on his "look", the way he moved and the aura he gave off, I would have had Nate Caddy in the top 3 way before the 2023 draft. I feel like I was correct, he already looks one of the best players of that draft. But for whatever reason he slipped as far as he did. He wouldn't have if I had been recruiting (I'm not trying to say I'm some know it all but this was my honest read on Caddy even before the draft).

Smillie, the look/aura he gives me, is someone who jogs a bit and is kind of slow to react, he looks very clumsy at times - look at some of his weird splayed-armed tackle attempts in his highlights where he kind of just falls into the opponent - but the real big one for me is just where his hands/arms are; he takes the footy with arms limp/bent, close to his body. He doesn't seem to really strongly extend his hands, really pluck at the footy with power, he has soft arms that "receive" the ball rather than "take" it, if that makes sense.

At AFL level, that split-second between a player needing to receive the ball closer to their chest with bent arms, rather than plucking at it and being able to just grab it (think Cotchin, how strong his arms and grip looked whenever he plucked at the footy), is HUGE. It will often mean he is being tackled before he is disposing of the ball, and the ball will often spill out given how soft his arms are.

It's something that really stood out to me, he just looks a bit "soft" for his size, not soft in the usual association of the word (I don't mean that he is a panzee), but literally soft.

This might change, but all vision I've seen of him so far shows that limp-arms look. I also don't rate the comparisons to Cripps. I went and looked at the highlights of Cripps pre-draft and he looks the better player at the same age, just moves better, looks "firmer".

I absolutely do hope to be proven wrong though, especially if we draft him.

(sorry for the long reply, it's just hard to convey what I mean)

This opinion gives me Moneyball vibes (ie prevailing opinion pre-moneyball) - a strong focus on aesthetic over data.

 

[captain cotch 9]

Yze will prioritise elite kicking.
Who ever is the best kick out of the top ranked players will be our choise IMO.

 

[Tigerbob]

I’m not settled on anyone yet. Long way to go.