List Mgmt. Trade Targets 2016

[Needs Gravy]

Vardy is uninspiring but if fit he's a better fit than Lobbe. At least it's not Dawes.

Dawes is my fear for this off season.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I like the idea of a straight swap of Ah chee for Brooksby or something like that

Ah Chee has more talent in his left nut than Brooksby has in his entire body. We may need a ruck, but we don't need one that badly.

Personally the only reason I'd trade Arch is to get us back into the second round, i.e. Arch + our 45 for GC's 28. Anything less than that and we're better off keeping him.

 

[RossFC]

Vardy as a fwd/ruck > Lobbe > Brooksby

 

[snozulu]

I was thinking of bringing in someone much younger

As long as they are a handy back up i have no problem with a younger player. Probably prefer it now that i think about it.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

If that campaigner gets his body right, we'll do alright out of Vardy.

 

[MALTSY]

Ah Chee has more talent in his left nut than Brooksby has in his entire body. We may need a ruck, but we don't need one that badly.

Personally the only reason I'd trade Arch is to get us back into the second round, i.e. Arch + our 45 for GC's 28. Anything less than that and we're better off keeping him.

Considering the sheer number of potential footballers locked up in the left nut of Arch....id say you are correct.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Considering the sheer number of potential footballers locked up in the left nut of Arch....id say you are correct.

And every last one of them is a better footballer than Brooksby. Even the girls.

 

[mic59]

Toby Nankervis has a 4-page thread on the trading board. The initial posts say that he wants to be near his family so wants to move to Melbourne from Sydney. Most of the later posts say this is hooey as he comes from Tassie and Sydney is just an extra 40 minutes, if that. Being at the bottom of the pecking order with 12 games in 2 years is the most likely reason. Should we have a go? A lot of the Swans supporters on the board are saying a third or fourth would do it.

 

[rumoursofwinter]

Yes.

Get Toby Nankervis!

If you can't get Nankervis get Tom Downie.

Someone young...who can play now...who can kick a goal...who should improve...who is cheap!

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Toby Nankervis has a 4-page thread on the trading board. The initial posts say that he wants to be near his family so wants to move to Melbourne from Sydney. Most of the later posts say this is hooey as he comes from Tassie and Sydney is just an extra 40 minutes, if that. Being at the bottom of the pecking order with 12 games in 2 years is the most likely reason. Should we have a go? A lot of the Swans supporters on the board are saying a third or fourth would do it.

Look at the number of flights, variety of time and cost of Hobart or Launceston to Melbourne vs to Sydney. You can overnight it on the Spirit of Tasmania if you live in Launceston. So that would be a more important fact than the extra 40 minutes in the air if he wants his family to visit him. Plus it seems as if half of Tassie has moved to Melbourne and not Sydney, so who knows how many mates and relos he has in Melbourne compared to Sydney.

He is definitely worth having a crack at to be no.3 ruck if he was open to it. He was always been behind other ruckmen at Sydney but that was to expected the first 3 or 4 years after being drafted in 2013. When he got there, the swans had Pyke, Tippett and Derrickx, Mumford had been traded out a few weeks earlier and Naismith was rookied 12 months earlier. Recruiting Sinclair from WCE and Naismith developing nicely from late last year onward means he is now still 4th or 5th banana.

 

[longdonkey]

Dawes is my fear for this off season.

Tonight I'll have nightmares about Dawes playing for Port - he'll be wearing number 666

 

[Jakksynn]

Tonight I'll have nightmares about Dawes playing for Port - he'll be wearing number 666

I'd prefer a combination of Renouf/Redden, before having Dawes on our list. Genuinely hopeless footballer.

 

[MALTSY]

And every last one of them is a better footballer than Brooksby. Even the girls.

Didnt you get the birds and bees talk? Girls are sourced from the right nut.

 

[MALTSY]

Dont put Redden in the same sentence as Dawes and Renouf!!

 

[x_les_x]

Dont put Redden in the same sentence as Dawes and Renouf!![/]

Youre right renouf is a premiership player remember, as is dawes

 

[simmo_bc]

As much as I want to see Ah Chee succeed, I think we overrate him as a talent. If GC don't take him, he'd be a straight forward delisting.

Agree though, Brooksby for Ah Chee is lunacy. Brooksby is rookie list caliber talent for me, not senior list. His old man was a good footballer.

 

[Steve Dore]

Not when you consider father Barry played for Sydney, Collingwood and Carlton

Sydney 170 games over 9 seasons
Collingwood 13 games 1 season
Carlton 38 games 3 seasons

Only qualified as father-son at Sydney.

With his father having played at those three clubs though you can see the "romantic" attraction of Hawthorn*.

* Barry was an assistant coach at Hawthorn in 2008.

He was offered a dud deal by Sydney thanks to their commitment to Tippett & Franklin. Had to leave.

That is not true. Only Portz Pawa have celery cap issues.

 

[raptalia]

He is definitely worth having a crack at to be no.3 ruck if he was open to it. He was always been behind other ruckmen at Sydney but that was to expected the first 3 or 4 years after being drafted in 2013. When he got there, the swans had Pyke, Tippett and Derrickx, Mumford had been traded out a few weeks earlier and Naismith was rookied 12 months earlier. Recruiting Sinclair from WCE and Naismith developing nicely from late last year onward means he is now still 4th or 5th banana.

Nankervis isn't going to come to us to be No3 on the list when he can go to Richmond and possibly take over from an ageing Maric or a hot and cold Hampson. Richmond are apparently hot for Nankervis as a replacement for Tyrone Vickery.

It looks like Nankervis has passed Lobbe on Richmond's wish list.

 

[1954]

It's probably already been said, but the swannies would know their reported offer of 400k a season to Mitchell will be comfortably bettered by another club.
It's obviously just another way of clearing celery space.

 

[chachi11]

Meanwhile....lets cross to CD working hard on our next trade.

 

[RossFC]

Meanwhile....lets cross to CD working hard on our next trade.

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Ah the Vardy file.

 

[mic59]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-11/it-will-be-difficult-for-cats-to-trade-stars-in-says-wells

GEELONG admits it will be "difficult" to broker trade deals for both Brett Deledio and Zach Tuohy, given the club's tight salary cap space.
Deledio and Tuohy both nominated Geelong as their preferred destination on the opening day of the NAB AFL Trade period.
But Cats list manager Stephen Wells said the club would have to get creative to sort out a suitable trade for Deledio and Tuohy with club finances an issue.

Finally! Some news has been printed to confirm that someone other than us may be a bit tight on salary cap space. Even though Vardy would not be expected to free up as much as some it still would be a bit of cap and the Cats could be ready to accept a late pick which could then be used on someone who will get minimum.
Found some extra NEAFL news on Tom Downie. The last two years were an improvement on some of his earlier years. Check the link below for all years.

http://www.aflplayerratings.com.au/Ratings/Player/117323/Tom-DOWNIE

2016 Season
1 Played in NEAFL trial against Sydney.
2 NEAFL Impressed with his attack on the ball after half time in ruck. -
3 NEAFL Good tussle in ruck against Derickx and Nankervis. Had 21 hit-outs. -
4 NEAFL Big afternoon with two goals to go with 28 hitouts and 19 touches. -
5 NEAFL Lowered colors to Nicholls in the ruck contests. -
6 NEAFL Played second fiddle to Simpson in the ruck. 11 hitouts, eight marks. -
7 NEAFL Bye. -
8 NEAFL Rucked well and was a threat in attack with three goals and seven marks. -
9 NEAFL 20 hit-outs and two goals in the ruck and resting forward. Good outing. -
10 NEAFL Best of Giants’ rucks with 24 hit-outs, 16 touches and a goal. Injured elbow though. -
11 NEAFL Very good in the ruck. Dominated the hit-outs and gave midfielders first use. -
12 NEAFL OK in ruck and booted a goal resting forward. -
13 Ess Didn’t take advantage of opportunity and well beaten by Bomber pair. 2
14 NEAFL Ruck work was decent and showed a bit around the ground. -
15 NEAFL Bye. -
16 NEAFL Influential big man with 22 hit-outs and two goals in ruck and attack. -
17 NEAFL Kicking let him down at times, but was lively in forward half and serviceable in the ruck. -
18 Shoulder.
19 Shoulder.
20 NEAFL Good in the ruck (23 hit-outs) and was a presence up forward with two goals. -
21 NEAFL Did some good things up forward (two goals) and in the ruck. -
22 NEAFL Big presence up forward with four goals and seven marks (three contested). -
23 NEAFL Bye. -
QF NEAFL Shared ruck load with Simpson. 14 hit-outs, but laid seven tackles at ground level. -
PF -
2015 Season
1 -
2 Had 16 hitouts and a goal as main ruckman.
3 NEAFL Rucked fairly well against Swans talls. -
4 NEAFL Kicked two goals and had 13 hitouts. -
5 NEAFL Wasn’t a big factor on the night. -
6 NEAFL Solid in ruck in tandem with Phillips. -
7 NEAFL Rotated through ruck 24 hitouts and five marks. -
8 NEAFL Had an impact in ruck and attack with three goals. -
9 NEAFL Bye. -
10 NEAFL Rotated through ruck and attack. Two goals, 16 hitouts. -
11 NEAFL 29 hitouts and a goal in hard-fought win. -
12 NEAFL Best afield in big win with 45 hitouts. -
13 NEAFL Bye. -
14 Rich Rucked well against Maric. Had 21 hit-outs and was a presence. 4
15 StK Big kid was lead ruckman but well beaten. 3
16 GCS OK in the ruck and managed to boot a goal. 4
17 Geel One goal and while he certainly didn’t set world on fire he showed glimpses. 4
18 Frem A rough day. Battled in the ruck and got hurt. 3
19 NEAFL Gave mids first use with 46 hitouts in big ruck effort. -
20 NEAFL Bye. -
21 NEAFL Even battle in ruck with Derickx. 35 hitouts. -
22 Carl Best game at league level so far. 37 hitouts and controlled the ruck. 7
23 Melb OK start but then overwhelmed in ruck by Gawn. Good learning lesson. 4

 

[rumoursofwinter]

The reviews on Downie are pretty positive for a young cheap ruck.

Here's Vardys season. It's ugly. Doesn't mention much ruck work. I assume its hard to do much ruck work when everything hurts.

2016 Season
1 Played in VFL trial against North Ballarat.
2 Foot.
3 Foot.
4 VFL Returned from foot injury. Grabbed a couple of nice marks but generally quiet. -
5 VFL Got through second game back from injury. Needs to find more of the ball. -
6 GCS Late inclusion snagged one goal but quiet for most part. Will get better. 3
7 VFL Struggled to find the footy up forward. Timing of marking was well off. -
8 VFL Couldn’t get into the game at all playing forward. Six tackles, one goal. -
9 VFL One goal from seven touches as lean trot continues up forward. -
10 VFL Bye. -
11 VFL Struggles continue. Three marks and eight kicks in a quiet day. -
12 VFL Rotated ruck forward. Four inside-50s, one goal and two contested marks. -
13 VFL Rotated ruck/forward. Six marks (four contested) and three inside-50s. Ok. -
14 VFL Six kicks and two marks in another average effort. Really struggling. -
15 VFL Bye. -
16 VFL Six marks (three contested), one goal and three tackles. OK. -
17 VFL Four marks and two goals from five kicks. Needs to do more. -
18 VFL Carried from field on stretcher in first term with an ankle injury. -
19 Ankle.
20 Ankle.
21 Ankle.
22 Ankle.
23 VFL Returned after injury but struggled to find his feet playing ruck/forward. -
QF -
PF -

 

[wayb2912]

The reviews on Downie are pretty positive for a young cheap ruck.

Here's Vardys season. It's ugly. Doesn't mention much ruck work. I assume its hard to do much ruck work when everything hurts.

2016 Season
1 Played in VFL trial against North Ballarat.
2 Foot.
3 Foot.
4 VFL Returned from foot injury. Grabbed a couple of nice marks but generally quiet. -
5 VFL Got through second game back from injury. Needs to find more of the ball. -
6 GCS Late inclusion snagged one goal but quiet for most part. Will get better. 3
7 VFL Struggled to find the footy up forward. Timing of marking was well off. -
8 VFL Couldn’t get into the game at all playing forward. Six tackles, one goal. -
9 VFL One goal from seven touches as lean trot continues up forward. -
10 VFL Bye. -
11 VFL Struggles continue. Three marks and eight kicks in a quiet day. -
12 VFL Rotated ruck forward. Four inside-50s, one goal and two contested marks. -
13 VFL Rotated ruck/forward. Six marks (four contested) and three inside-50s. Ok. -
14 VFL Six kicks and two marks in another average effort. Really struggling. -
15 VFL Bye. -
16 VFL Six marks (three contested), one goal and three tackles. OK. -
17 VFL Four marks and two goals from five kicks. Needs to do more. -
18 VFL Carried from field on stretcher in first term with an ankle injury. -
19 Ankle.
20 Ankle.
21 Ankle.
22 Ankle.
23 VFL Returned after injury but struggled to find his feet playing ruck/forward. -
QF -
PF -

Wow that is not very encouraging

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[rumoursofwinter]

Vardy was a talented player when he was young but he is broken. Even if we have a miracle and he remains uninjured he is never going to be able to do more than pinch hit in the ruck. We still need a backup if Lobbe leaves.