List Mgmt. Trade targets 2022

[blackholeguns]

In comparison to just the other two options of Lycett and Dixon/Finlayson. (Not just V the opposition) He touched up Stefan from WB (37 ho) and battled gallantly against Geelong (35 ho) at the catery before being dropped after his last game V Essendon where he only had one kick (21 ho), the poor fella!

In Gawns’ early days he struggled to run out a full game and was dropped regularly too, so I hold some hope for the Hayes to still realise his full potential. His wing span must be significantly wider than Lycetts because he manages to elevate and meet the ball at a higher point at throw ins etc... with his height only being marginally taller at 205 V 203cm.

Wouldn’t taps to advantage be a better stat to effectively compare ruck output?I mean Finlayson has the best centre clearances of the lot for ‘22..but rarely gets his hands to it first.. esp around the ground

 

[240volt]

Whelp. I'm banned from both the Dunkley and Rioli threads on the main board. I fought the good fight.

You fought the war and the war won

 

[Long live PAFC]

Sydney Stack

44

Sydney Stack

Age

24

Ht

179cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.7

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

202.0

3star

D

9.8

2star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.4

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.8

4star

MG

133.0

2star

D

16.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

227.4

4star

likely up for grabs. Probably wouldn’t cost much. Burgoyne may be able to keep him on the straight and narrow

 

[Lightning_Rod]

Sydney Stack

44

Sydney Stack

Age

24

Ht

179cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.5

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.7

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

202.0

3star

D

9.8

2star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.4

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.8

4star

MG

133.0

2star

D

16.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.6

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

227.4

4star

likely up for grabs. Probably wouldn’t cost much. Burgoyne may be able to keep him on the straight and narrow

Carrying too many players with off field issues is a massive risk. We are already punting on rioli.


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[Coobk001]

Super hot girls are overrated (from experience)

 

[Long live PAFC]

Carrying too many players with off field issues is a massive risk. We are already punting on rioli.


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Fair enough. Undeniable talent and athleticism though. High risk, high reward for him and Rioli.

 

[Ralph Lorenz]

Fair enough. Undeniable talent and athleticism though. High risk, high reward for him and Rioli.

If we trade in Bonnie and also Clyde, we can put hotels on all 4 of them

 

[Coobk001]

Don’t shoot the messenger, but I’ve heard from a source connected to the club that Zak Butters met with Adam Simpson this week.

Is adam Simpson been in Bali then Europe the past week too?

Yeah last I saw was a couple days back and he was in London with his girlfriend or whatever they are now that she's been signed up by Crystal Palace.

Long way for Simpson to go for a dead end.

 

[Lefti93]

Rate SStack highly as a player, don't know what his off field issues are.

 

[Lefti93]

How many second/future second rounders have we drafted out under Ken?

 

[Festerz]

Cleary is usually on the money.

 

[TeeKray]

Looks like Dunkley is off. Can't wait to see which C-grader we bring in instead.

 

[Quaglia_]

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Cleary is usually on the money.

Didn’t Cleary say this on Tuesday night?

 

[Lightning_Rod]

Cleary knows no more than any one else at the moment he is basing it on the fact Brisbane are still in finals.

 

[TazD]

Brisbane being in finals as the argument makes no sense to me when we just had two players nominate Geelong.

Still think he's Brisbane bound tho.

 

[Papa G]

This is how I grade Dunkley's value:

Pick	Player
1	Jacob Weitering - better than Dunkley
2	Josh Schache - Bust
3	Callum Mills - better than Dunkley
4	Clayton Oliver - better than Dunkley
5	Darcy Parish - 50/50
6	Aaron Francis - bust
7	Jacob Hopper - slightly weaker than Dunkley
8	Callum Ah Chee - weaker than Dunkley
9	Sam Weideman - Bust
10	Harry McKay - Better than Dunkley (KPP get a higher rating than midfielders)
11	Wayne Milera - worse than Dunkley
12	Charlie Curnow - Better than Dunkley
13	Matthew Kennedy - slightly worse than Dunkley
14	Eric Hipwood - Better than Dunkley (KPP)
15	Daniel Rioli - 50/50
16	Harrison Himmelberg - 50/50 (KPP)
17	Tom Doedee - 50/50 (KPP)
18	Jade Gresham 50/50
19	Ryan Burton 50/50
20	Brayden Fiorini - worse than Dunkley
21	Ben McKay - Better than Dunkley (KPP)
22	Kieran Lovell - Bust
23	David Cuningham - Bust
24	Ben Keays - 50/50
25	Josh Dunkley

Of everyone after Dunkley I'd only say that only Jordan Dawson

12

Jordan Dawson

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.0

4star

K

11.4

4star

HB

5.7

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

D

15.7

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

4.9

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

2.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.6

3star

has outperformed Dunkley.

So at best Dunkley is the 9th best player in his draft year, but if you took the 50/50s he could be as high as 16th. Lets average that out and say he's the 12th best player in his draft year.

Dunkley has been in the system 7 years. A good Midfielder generally will establish themselves as a first 18 player by season 3. Dunkley impacted in year 1, but had a poor season 2 game wise with only 7 games (possibly through injury?), but was definately a regular by season 3.

So from the age of 21 to 25 the Dogs got solid value from him. The bloke will be 26 in January. So lets say he has 6 seasons left in him. Whilst he is known quality as opposed to an untried draft pick, an untried draft pick can potentially give you 12 seasons of value, a 26 year old can not. This has to be taken into context.

Dunkley is a good player, but he ain't no world beater. He's featured in the Dogs top 10 bnfs only twice (he will again this year) He's had a pretty good season. He was judged BOG by the coaches twice (once in round 23 for some recency bias). He is not by any stretch an established A grader. He is not top echelon.

So if we rate him the 12th best player from his draft year, a known quality, a B+ type, top 25 quartile in league but no where near top 10%, given he only has 100 - 150 games left in him at best, what is the discount for that?

End of first round/start of second round is about his value.

 

[Quaglia_]

Cleary knows no more than any one else at the moment he is basing it on the fact Brisbane are still in finals.

I’m with you, he said it on 7news Melbourne didn’t give any reasoning to why Brisbane are favourites. I know people have mixed opinions on rucci but what he said yesterday I don’t know why he would lie.

 

[Festerz]

Didn’t Cleary say this on Tuesday night?

You're right. But 7AFL sent that tweet out this morning so assumed it was based on some new information. No detail provided so maybe not.

 

[Quaglia_]

You're right. But 7AFL sent that tweet out this morning so assumed it was based on some new information. No detail provided so maybe not.

Aren’t 7afl just known for repeating shit non stop for content though

 

[Sneeky]

Reports saying Josh Walker has been told to wait until after the trade period to see what his future holds with a contract. Could do worse than picking him up as break glass (replaces Skinner) for a packet of chips or DFA. About to turn 30, a few years younger than I thought he was

 

[Smartys Power]

7AFL also wanted to trade Georgiades for Rioli.

 

[Long live PAFC]

Reports saying Josh Walker has been told to wait until after the trade period to see what his future holds with a contract. Could do worse than picking him up as break glass (replaces Skinner) for a packet of chips or DFA. About to turn 30, a few years younger than I thought he was

True but I think he stays in Victoria. Probably gets similar money and similar opportunities there.

 

[PortVic]

Reports saying Josh Walker has been told to wait until after the trade period to see what his future holds with a contract. Could do worse than picking him up as break glass (replaces Skinner) for a packet of chips or DFA. About to turn 30, a few years younger than I thought he was

Is very underrated as a key defender. Would be a good pickup for a top team. Don’t think would be a good pickup for us. We would have 5 key backs over 28 on our list. Still makes absolutely no sense why we signed McKenzie so early. Should have told him to wait, to see what our options are.

 

[240volt]

Looks like Dunkley is off. Can't wait to see which C-grader we bring in instead.

Come on this should make you happy we keep our pick 9

 

[TazD]

We only kept McKenzie because we need him to send a couple of torps over the redeveloped buildings.