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[Horaceg]

Getting very quietly confident about Reef in the forward line. The Sean Rusling type who's so fast, tall and going to get better...

Sean Rusling …….but without the breakdowns

 

[Fat Jesus]

Sean Rusling …….but without the breakdowns

He's been broken for a long time brother. Seems to have come good now.
Sean Rusling was a real special talent. Really special. Such a pity.
Reef has potential as a very good talent.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Medical room
Charlie Dean has been moved to the inactive list due to another long-term foot injury. Nathan Kreuger is recovering from a second shoulder reconstruction in 12 months and is set to miss the first half of the season. Fin Macrae has been impacted by a back injury during the pre-season, while Darcy Moore is on track to play in round one following a bone infection in December.

Who's flying
While big-name recruits Tom Mitchell and Dan McStay have banked impressive pre-seasons at the AIA Centre, the two other new faces – Billy Frampton and Bobby Hill – have both rocketed into round one calculations across the summer.
Well, this is new
We got a taste of Nick Daicos in the middle late last season, but we are set to see it far more often in 2023. The 20-year-old hasn’t missed a beat this summer and is ready to be unleashed in a midfield role.

And another thing…
Craig McRae

Craig Mcrae

Age

51

Ht

176cm

Wt

73kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.9

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.9

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

16.2

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.4

5star

spent part of the off-season with Eddie Jones in the England Rugby camp, where he saw the benefit of having a consultant observe and provide feedback. Former Western Bulldogs coach Brendan McCartney will perform that role with the Pies this season.

 

[Wearmouth]

I suspect you’re wrong about Howe. The only way he drops out of the senior team is through injury.

I was wrong about Soy Boy until I wasn’t.

We will see…..

You do also realize that injury is part of the reasons why he can’t keep doing what he was previously. It’s called Father Time. Catches them all.


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[Wearmouth]

Mitchell incoming forces Adams to spend more time up forward. He’ll play a similar pressuring forward role up there so I can’t see how that doesn’t affect McCreery especially when Ginnivan becomes available.

Oh hell no. I can barely handle his poor disposal in our midfield. I will blow a foofer valve if I see him in the our forward line regularly spraying the ball around our goals.

Isn’t there a potato shortage. Maybe Adams can help the farmers.


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[Bianconeri]

Oh hell no. I can barely handle his poor disposal in our midfield. I will blow a foofer valve if I see him in the our forward line regularly spraying the ball around our goals.

Isn’t there a potato shortage. Maybe Adams can help the farmers.


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[Wearmouth]

Hmmm.

Good question. We're looking stacked all of a sudden.

I think there's blokes who will go to stoppage and not necessarily play as traditional mids around the ground - ala Jordy last year. Adams might join him in a role like this, with guys like Crisp, Nick, Pendles and Lippa rotating a little bit through stoppage but generally being our linkers as JDG and Adams move ahead of the ball.. So Nick might start ahead of the footy and then switch with Adams after stoppages. Like Lippa did with Jordy last year.

I think we'll want Adams, Jordy and Mitchell to get to lots of stoppage. Not sure if Nick will have overtaken them there yet.

Nick is a much cleaner mid than all of them. But I’d rather he not be fully exposed just yet. Needs another year not to be destroyed by the pounding he’ll receive. Use up whatever is left in Adams this year. Have Nick share a 50-50 split in the guts.

Has has WIT in spades. You could see it in the Intra. But in the Intra there wasn’t anyone wanting to crunch him. Left to run free. That won’t happen int the real stuff. Guys like Deboer will actively try and crunch him as a negating role.


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[Wearmouth]

I saw him at some centre bounces when they did a bit of rectangular match play.

This will be a natural progression for RamBeau. His skill set allows for it. Speed, strength and the ability to scare the living daylights out of you. Once he gets the speed of the midfield contests look out. He’ll be another weapon Fly can deploy.

I’ve always thought that his natural role would be as a mid. Just forcing the contest. A bit like Dipper used to do. Apart from Nick. Carmichael and RamBeau are my favorite young guys. Because they make the most of what they have.


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[Wearmouth]

I think I've been sucked in about 7 preseasons running, but Cox looked like a weapon.

You’re coming around. Cox should have always been used primarily as our Ruck. But the dilemma would have been what do you do with a Ruckman who can’t mark it around the ground. And can’t take one in the forward line……

You move him and his salary on.


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[Wearmouth]

Tbh, I never really notice or care that much about the actual ruckwork (except when Nicnat was flying). But Cox's marking in defence could be a weapon.

That’s what Ruckman should do. We’ve been hoodwinked into thinking a Ruckman should be a suedo-mid. Playing below their knees.


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[sr36]

That’s what Ruckman should do. We’ve been hoodwinked into thinking a Ruckman should be a suedo-mid. Playing below their knees.


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They should play to their skillset. Dean Cox and Jimmy Stynes played as linking mids. Grundy as a clearance player. Gawn plays the way you're describing.

 

[Wearmouth]

They should play to their skillset. Dean Cox and Jimmy Stynes played as linking mids. Grundy as a clearance player. Gawn plays the way you're describing.

Most if not all Ruckman play the way I’m describing. Only mids should be clearance players. Seeing that’s their job. You don’t see the mid jumping taking the tap outs.

Mind you, that would be something I’d like to try Adams with. At least then it might curtail his disposing of it.


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[stormskye]

Not convinced about Macrae, he’s one of the unfittest on the list.

He won the best vfl player last season so saying he’s one of the unfittest is a stretch . He’s been injured all off season.

 

[The Magnificent Seven]

You don’t see the mid jumping taking the tap outs.

Patrick Cripps says hi.

 

[Wearmouth]

Patrick Cripps says hi.

Can’t help stupid. If the Filth want to risk one of the best mids in the comp taking taps and having a dumb Ruckman cave his chest or back in. Be my guest.

Not the done thing.


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[sr36]

Most of not all Ruckman play the way I’m describing. Only mids should be clearance players. Seeing that’s their job. You don’t see the mid jumping taking the tap outs.

Mind you, that would be something I’d like to try Adams with. At least then it might curtail his disposing of it.


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You're wrong Ronny. Grundy's follow up work is a strength (despite his disposal). Every club would like their ruckman to have that presence at stoppage. It does not stop him from dropping back into defence after stoppage. It's not why his aerial work is below par.
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[KJpie]

You're wrong Ronny. rundy's follow up work is a strength (despite his disposal). Every club would like their ruckman to have that presence at stoppage. It does not stop him from dropping back into defence after stoppage. It's not why his aerial work is below par.
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Agree, Even Tom Hawkins as a 2nd ruck often takes the ruck contests in the forward line for the Cats and regularly takes possession out of the ruck to impact the score board with great effect. Would be a bonus if McStay can impact the scoreboard in a simlar fashion.

 

[jonbe54]

You're wrong Ronny. Grundy's follow up work is a strength (despite his disposal). Every club would like their ruckman to have that presence at stoppage. It does not stop him from dropping back into defence after stoppage. It's not why his aerial work is below par.
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I've always loved the big guy's athleticism and follow up work.

Sadly the competition recognized his single rucking tactic of tapping the ball to his feet and simply blocked up that space.

Added to that the lack of a true marking threat capability and you have a ruckman who isn't.

The fault isn't entirely his though - Pies were too cheap to employ a decent full time rucking coach to broaden his ruckwork.

 

[sr36]

I've always loved the big guy's athleticism and follow up work.

Sadly the competition recognized his single rucking tactic of tapping the ball to his feet and simply blocked up that space.

Added to that the lack of a true marking threat capability and you have a ruckman who isn't.

The fault isn't entirely his though - Pies were too cheap to employ a decent full time rucking coach to broaden his ruckwork.

I don't think a ruck coach was the issue. I still think he's very good around stoppage. It's outside of stoppage that stops him being worth huge money. Under Bucks, he could play as an extra linking mid, but he's not sharp enough to do that with the way we're trying to move the ball and his aerial game isn't good enough for him to have a big impact dropping back and pushing forward as a marking threat.

 

[watt price tully]

Not convinced about Macrae, he’s one of the unfittest on the list.

Yeah but he can coach

 

[Gaspard]

This will be a natural progression for RamBeau. His skill set allows for it. Speed, strength and the ability to scare the living daylights out of you. Once he gets the speed of the midfield contests look out. He’ll be another weapon Fly can deploy.

I’ve always thought that his natural role would be as a mid. Just forcing the contest. A bit like Dipper used to do. Apart from Nick. Carmichael and RamBeau are my favorite young guys. Because they make the most of what they have.


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I suggested this as a possibility last year, and was generally talked down. My reservation that he has so far been too fumbly remains, but I am still hopeful that his fumbles in tight were due to a mixture of the role he was playing and a bit of uncertainty as to whether he was the one who should take possession. This year will tell that story.

 

[KJpie]

Patrick Cripps says hi.

Used Silvani also with limited success, can't believe the Bloos dropped De Koning (who I rate) to the 2nds.
May have cost them a finals spot prior to us making a certainty of it.

 

[JuniorB]

Used Silvani more than Cripps, can't believe the Bloos dropped De Koning (who I rate) to the 2nds.
May have cost them a finals spot prior to us making a certainty of it.

De Koning is a player we should target. A shame his brother signed long term with the pussies.

 

[Jen2310]

Not convinced about Macrae, he’s one of the unfittest on the list.

Came 3rd in the 2k time trial and top 5 in the beep test. Fitness in not the issue. Consistency and this iniury he is dealing with is


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[Wearmouth]

You're wrong Ronny. Grundy's follow up work is a strength (despite his disposal). Every club would like their ruckman to have that presence at stoppage. It does not stop him from dropping back into defence after stoppage. It's not why his aerial work is below par.
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Wrong. His follow up work WAS a strength until he was worked out. Now he is a slow lumber ruck who can’t mark and can’t hit his mids. Whose also impersonating a mid with poor disposal.


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