There’s at least one thing more silly that that.
oh, and Ravaillion has every right to have her say about this.
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oh, and Ravaillion has every right to have her say about this.
Yo
You were pretty quiet for 37 years thenI know you think it’s all about playing finals, I’d prefer to win premierships
Genuinely surprising to see a Swans fan with toxic low brow opinions given the fanbase at large has been piously sitting in the AFL’s thickest glass house for years now.
With that said. This story is commercially attractive because Collingwood drives clicks and games aren’t actually taking place.
We’re all kidding ourselves if we think we’re not two bad Treloar games away from the media doing a 180 and blaming him/Kim for poor form, and starting to talk about his contract like it’s a millstone around the Bulldogs’ necks. These are all headlines / talking points by round 5 next year.
eth-dog
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Interesting comment given your club of choice.
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The way the media are wetting the bed over this story is embarrassing. These poor footballers remain employed footballers on hundred of thousands of dollars. Whilst bucks/Eddie and whoever have wronged them just remember two of them butcher the ball massively and the other one has so much talent but spend 2020 looking like he couldn't be bothered to play.
Now whilst they are talented and have received a come down , everyone loses a job generally during their life and takes a financial and mental hit. These guys have little to worry about compared with many Australians especially this year! Don't forget thousands still haven't earned a cent since Feb and tens of thousands have not seen family members this year.
The way some journos are talking this up you would think they were being sent to Nauru
Now whilst they are talented and have received a come down , everyone loses a job generally during their life and takes a financial and mental hit. These guys have little to worry about compared with many Australians especially this year! Don't forget thousands still haven't earned a cent since Feb and tens of thousands have not seen family members this year.
The way some journos are talking this up you would think they were being sent to Nauru
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While its incredibly dumb to say it in public, if behind closed doors Collingwood management decided to trade treloar due to concerns about his ability to play with his partner interstate; I'd understand it. Especially since they know him better than almost any other pundit commentating on the issue.
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yeah I thought that was interesting, Ned Guy saying that the Pies needed to 'arrest the slide' from 2nd to 4th to 6th. Not sure you can really pull out a trend there, they went deep in finals each season.
They outperformed their expectations in the '18 prelim, did the opposite in the prelim in '19, but were incredible in '20 EF before running into a red hot side in Geelong who would have smashed anyone, in a COVID year.
Reckon that it was all salary cap, not arresting any obvious slide
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she had every right to have her say the minute guy mentioned her name.
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This will all be swept under the carpet if Collingwood starts the season well, results hide everything.
How incredibly unprofessional of a sporting club that could be the largest in the country to make these comments and allowing it to be played out in the media like it has been.
How incredibly unprofessional of a sporting club that could be the largest in the country to make these comments and allowing it to be played out in the media like it has been.
Haven’t even been in the comp that long so that’s kinda irrelevant. Plus you don’t know who I barracked for prior to their introduction.... been a bombers fan since how long?
eth-dog
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I had a choice between being a Bombers fan and living in the garage as a kid. I caved after 20 minutes.
I dislike Richmond supporters as much as the next guy, but now's not the time to take potshots.
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You don't arrest a slide by giving away Treloar, Stephenson and Phillips for cents on the dollar.
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If you are full and bloated, don't complain about it when you are still stuffing food in your mouth.
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Most couldn't stand treloar a few months ago, now everyone is worried about his feelings
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Leave him alone mate. We shouldn't pick on those less fortunate.
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Most couldn't stand treloar a few months ago, now everyone is worried about his feelings
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Is that just a made up comment?
where has it been said people couldn't stand him?
don't tell me you are defending the club you follows actions?
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Bit different. He saw out his contract at GWS and wished to move. Opposite here. Could easily have dug in and said I'm staying but club dug it's heals. Should never have mentioned his wife or the players.
Club should've just said due to our **** ups, covid and list sizes we are over the cap.
Thus contracts needed to be redone or players moved on. While not pleasant it had to be done according to AFL rules and we'd rather get it done now then create issues in the future. We thank the players for their service and are sorry to see them go but that's the nature of the industry at times.
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Is that just a made up comment?
where has it been said people couldn't stand him?
don't tell me you are defending the club you follows actions?
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He's been called loads of names over the years on big footy, essentially for supposedly being overrated , has lots of possession but does nothing with it, butchers the ball, is soft, is arrogant, ott goal celebrations, chose Collingwood over Richmond because of the list etc etc
Sounds like you're defending your new recruit.
He's a good player, cheer up.
Are you caught up in the soap opera too??
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Bit off topic, but can anyone with a good knowledge of how AFL clubs work tell me with confidence how much Bucks would have been involved in the list management side (including salary cap issues)? Even before this blew up, all the comments I heard in the last 12 months were that coaches these days actually have very little input into this side.
If that is true, I feel a bit for Bucks. I thought his comments yesterday were pretty measured and honest. It seems like a massive problem was created (salary cap wise), not of his making, but then he took on some responsibility to try to fix it. 'Fixing it', unfortunately, meant moving on players while trying to maintain some leverage at the trade table, by dropping hints about reasons for them being traded, but then also clamming up at the wrong times.
The other thing is, we've all heard the whispers that the hubs were a challenge and an eye-opener. Sounds like Collingwood were pretty unimpressed by Stephenson after seeing him in a hub for 3 months, and seeing him play shit footy, and probably putting 2 and 2 together. Regarding Treloar, they would also have seen him very close in that environment. Given that he has been open about his mental health struggles, Collingwood might have a realistic sense that Treloar living away from his partner and baby might not work too well. I thought Bucks' comments around that were not too unreasonable. Although, if they had no salary cap issues it is hard to imagine the interstate arrangement would be a big issue - they would have just thrown a ton of support at him.
If that is true, I feel a bit for Bucks. I thought his comments yesterday were pretty measured and honest. It seems like a massive problem was created (salary cap wise), not of his making, but then he took on some responsibility to try to fix it. 'Fixing it', unfortunately, meant moving on players while trying to maintain some leverage at the trade table, by dropping hints about reasons for them being traded, but then also clamming up at the wrong times.
The other thing is, we've all heard the whispers that the hubs were a challenge and an eye-opener. Sounds like Collingwood were pretty unimpressed by Stephenson after seeing him in a hub for 3 months, and seeing him play shit footy, and probably putting 2 and 2 together. Regarding Treloar, they would also have seen him very close in that environment. Given that he has been open about his mental health struggles, Collingwood might have a realistic sense that Treloar living away from his partner and baby might not work too well. I thought Bucks' comments around that were not too unreasonable. Although, if they had no salary cap issues it is hard to imagine the interstate arrangement would be a big issue - they would have just thrown a ton of support at him.
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I wasn't conned by Bucks at all.
Treloar said he was told 'in no uncertain terms' the players didn't want him by Bucks. Couldn't be clearer.
Then we get Bucks running with 'it must have been a misunderstanding of something I said about on-field connection'
Spare me. He has been clearly outed as two-faced by both Treloar and Stephenson.
RichLeMonde
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Maybe. To be fair, Stephenson strikes me as very immature. Treloar, while he seems like a nice guy, also seems a bit immature. I would suspect the truth lies somewhere in the middle. When emotions are high, people very often misremember or misinterpret what was said to them. Bucks is super competitive and driven, so no doubt would do what he thought would ultimately serve Collingwood, and in a pretty ruthless way. I can imagine Bucks saying "Some of the senior mids really don't feel like they are connecting with you, you should seek a trade" (on the back of an end of season review where they focused on midfield connection), and Treloar taking that as being told "No one likes you!" But who knows what happened, really. There's always 2 sides to every story though.
Yep, because no conversation between a coach and player (or manager and employee) has ever been misinterpreted by one of the parties to the conversation, in the history of the world...
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It wasn't put in nearly such extreme terms, and wasn't the reason. The media are still choosing to frame it that way though, because it makes for more of a sexy scandal.
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Why can't Treloar and/or Stephenson have been at fault in their own way too?
To me it sounds just as much like they're immature and can't accept feedback and criticism as much as anything else.
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