Umpires kept Geelong in it. Absolute disgrace.

[lethalselbow]

Without a doubt that was some of the worst umpiring ever to take place in a Grand Final. The HUGE mistakes the umpires kept on "accidentally" making in Geelong's favour, kept them in it. The final free kick count was a 2 to 1 ratio.

Disgraceful umpiring.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Dont worry about that, just enjoy it

 

[harmesy 37]

Without a doubt that was some of the worst umpiring ever to take place in a Grand Final. The HUGE mistakes the umpires kept on "accidentally" making in Geelong's favour, kept them in it. The final free kick count was a 2 to 1 ratio.

Disgraceful umpiring.

Name one decision that wasn't there..

The one where Chapman got a free kick for the head high tackle?

You guys give away twice as many free kicks - and it has happened all year - as you push the envelope. (or play "unfashionable football" as the media states.)


I thought they umpired pretty well. There were a few good passages where they didn't blow the whistle and let blokes go in at one hundred miles an hour. good umpiring all and all.

 

[Quadzilla]

Just savour the win ... and well done!

 

[FunkFarmer]

I think there were a couple of terrible decisions in the first quarter that resulted in geelong goals. cant remember what quarter it was in but the one against franklin when scarlett ran into the front of him was absolutely laughable. i wouldn't want to suggest that these decisions kept the cats in it though. that stuff happens in every game.

 

[The Dustbin]

FFS you won a premiership, yet you still have a need to have a sook about the umpires. Anyone would think you lost.

 

[worthy]

There were a couple of shockers (Franklin/Scarlett) (Roughead HITB) (Mitchells downfield)and several others but thankfully they didn't influence the result.

 

[Butane]

You guys give away twice as many free kicks - and it has happened all year - as you push the envelope. (or play "unfashionable football" as the media states.)

You mean "unsociable football". Although the brown and yellow is unfashionable as well.

 

[harmesy 37]

There were a couple of shockers (Franklin/Scarlett) (Roughead HITB) (Mitchells downfield)and several others but thankfully they didn't influence the result.

The Hands in the back was there - they replayed it on tv and it was a definite free kick.

The only one that was dodgy was the Mitchell one downfield, but to be honest that guy was sniping all day and the umpires had to take a stand on his tactics.

I thought all in all reasonably well officiated.

 

[fuey]

You mean "unsociable football". Although the brown and yellow is unfashionable as well.

Dude, it's GOLD!

Just like our 10th Premiership Cup...

 

[Tassie27]

Hey I thought it was silver. Bit colourblind are we??

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Name one decision that wasn't there..

The one where Chapman got a free kick for the head high tackle?

You guys give away twice as many free kicks - and it has happened all year - as you push the envelope. (or play "unfashionable football" as the media states.)


I thought they umpired pretty well. There were a few good passages where they didn't blow the whistle and let blokes go in at one hundred miles an hour. good umpiring all and all.

The downfield 50 right before 3 1/4 time. Cost us a goal with only a few seconds remaining. Cats got 5 out of 11 goals from frees.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Yes, great analysis. Let's look at the total free kick count when discussing the umpiring

Blame your players for continuously taking out Geelong players after they had disposed of the ball, giving away countless advantage free kicks. This is a tactic to stop Geelong's linking up running, but there is no penalty at all for Hawthorn as advantage is always called.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

The downfield 50 right before 3 1/4 time. Cost us a goal with only a few seconds remaining. Cats got 5 out of 11 goals from frees.

I think the umpire has had enough of the tactic I described in my post above.

 

[SA HAWK]

I think the umpire has had enough of the tactic I described in my post above.

It was a free but definately not a downfield free. If you can't see that you know nothing about football.

 

[TheBloods]

Without a doubt that was some of the worst umpiring ever to take place in a Grand Final. The HUGE mistakes the umpires kept on "accidentally" making in Geelong's favour, kept them in it. The final free kick count was a 2 to 1 ratio.

Disgraceful umpiring.

Your maths is far more disgraceful. 29-21 is a ratio of 1.38 to 1, which is well short of 2 to 1 and not a particularly huge discrepancy.

 

[QuietB]

The umpiring was a disgrace - but then hawks supporters have been saying this all year and Saturday was no different.

Thankfully, it made absolutely no difference so they can go and get %$#&ed!

There were alot of square ups late - particularly from McLaren. How he got a gig after his performance in the Saints/Hawks prelim is a joke.

Go Hawks!

 

[james_omahoney]

Without a doubt that was some of the worst umpiring ever to take place in a Grand Final. The HUGE mistakes the umpires kept on "accidentally" making in Geelong's favour, kept them in it. The final free kick count was a 2 to 1 ratio.

Disgraceful umpiring.

Read the rule book before mate? Hawks fully deserved the win, but yet you still bring up the umpiring, without explaining one decision that was incorrect according to the laws of the game. If you're gonna start a thread like this you're gonna have to do a LOT better.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

Yep. I was wrong. I said we couldn't beat Geelong if they had the umps help.

Without the 'interpretational' umpiring, we'd have been 3 goals up at qtr time. That said, thought they were pretty good after that - a couple of mistakes/questionable decisions - but we got as many as we lost.

Bartel, Ablett, Johnson, Chapman, Corey. All five called out by the umps for diving on occassion - though they got some too. Ablett even got Mitchell reported for one effort. Williams, Bateman, Ladson all got picked up for it too. All good decisions by the umps to let them go for mine.

They let the ruck contest go generally - gave Ottens a fair advantage (able to just throw Renouf out of the way), but allowed Campbell to use his strength to minimise 'direct taps'.

I was furious with the umps at quarter time, but by the last we started to get the 'rub of the green'.

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

James the issue is they don't pay a free for any number of minor infringments (both ways), then the one they do pick up changes momentum in the game (either possesion change, or scoring opportunity), and invariably we seem to be on the wrong end of this one.

In terms of whether it's there or not, they only pay about 30-35% of all infringements, so to get any more than 1 or 2 actually wrong (as against interpretation) is cause for demoting.

The issue is when the interpretation only seems to run one way (eg McLaren paying >30 frees to the opposition, and <10 to Hawthorn in the last two weeks).

 

[hoopla]

Without a doubt that was some of the worst umpiring ever to take place in a Grand Final. The HUGE mistakes the umpires kept on "accidentally" making in Geelong's favour, kept them in it. The final free kick count was a 2 to 1 ratio.

Disgraceful umpiring.

I agree there was some awful umpiring.

What kept hawthorn in the game was geelong's goal kicking. The cats were then duly punished for those misses. Wake up!!

 

[TheBloods]

Without the 'interpretational' umpiring, we'd have been 3 goals up at qtr time.

Which goals were from 'soft' free kicks?

Lonergan's was a mark and Mooney's two were snaps. Ablett's 50m was clearly there as the commentators noted at the time. Can't recall Rooke's free kick at the moment.

 

[TheBloods]

I agree there was some awful umpiring.

What kept hawthorn in the game was geelong's goal kicking. The cats were then duly punished for those misses. Wake up!!

Agreed. Game should have been over half way through the third quarter, but when you score 2.13 while dominating the game you can't expect to win a GF.

 

[lopozop]

The Hands in the back was there - they replayed it on tv and it was a definite free kick.

The only one that was dodgy was the Mitchell one downfield, but to be honest that guy was sniping all day and the umpires had to take a stand on his tactics.

I thought all in all reasonably well officiated.

No it was hands in the side. Watch it again. The commentators said so too.

How had he been 'sniping all day' in the first quarter? And no the umpires don't have to take a stand. They have to be fair, impartial and enforce the rules.

I'm not having a go at the umpiring myself (even though we all know that McLaren should not have been selected for GF day). But there were some poor decisions.

 

[lopozop]

Hey I thought it was silver. Bit colourblind are we??

It's both silver and gold.