Voss on Fev/Brown - Yikes!

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what happens to your depth if you lose judd, murphy and gibbs during the year who have you got to cover them if injuries strike.

Personally I would expect either another one of our first round draft picks in McLean, Lucas, Russell, Walker or Yarran to stand up. Failing that we could always rely on one of Simpson, Carrazzo, Scotland, Houlihan, Grigg, Hadley, Cachia, Joseph or Betts.

;)

I think we could manage. Even in the extremly unlikley scenario we somehow manage to have all three of Judd, Murphy AND Gibbs all go down at once.

Oh.. and by the way, Midfield depth is not a problem at Carlton.
 
I think its funny that Brisbane talks about Carlton having a lack of depth when they're the one team in the AFL that will be relying on half a dozen players to win them football games.

I wish I could play their backline. Hell, they made Cameron Cloke look competent in the Final up there.

I'm shocked people view their backline as being quality. If it wasn't for their defensive forwards and midfielders (Rischitelli, Black, etc.) they'd be leaking like a sieve. The next time Merrett plays defense without giving away free kicks (I thought our SOS and T-Bird were/are bad, this guy's ten times worse than they ever were) will be a first.

If they're expecting big things from any of their recruits not named Brendan then they've got another thing coming. Raines could do well (I like him, being part of an AFL team will do him the world of good, now that he's out of the minor leagues), but he's about the only one of their mediocre pickups that can.
 

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Raines is okay. Problem is he spent too much time at Richmond. Now we'll really see what he's got.

Most of Richmond's young talent looks a lot more awful than it really is because of how they've been coached and played.

We're talking about a team that plays forwards in the ruck and rucks in the forward line. We're also talking about a team that plays flankers at key position, etc, etc.
 
We can all argue and debate about Fev and Brown colliding together *cough Brown and Bradshaw never had a problem cough* but at the end of the day we will all find out March 27th at 7.30.

Cough* Big Difference *Cough

Bradshaw played out the square and close to goal, Brown roamed the 50 so they weren't fight for the same space.

Fev is best when leading around the 50, so he'll be in JB area.
 
Raines is okay. Problem is he spent too much time at Richmond. Now we'll really see what he's got.

Most of Richmond's young talent looks a lot more awful than it really is because of how they've been coached and played.

We're talking about a team that plays forwards in the ruck and rucks in the forward line. We're also talking about a team that plays flankers at key position, etc, etc.

And the fact that Raines has been injured for the best part of two years. Sure, when he is fit he's not a bad little footballer, but seriously, all they might have got with him is a running HB.
 
^^
I would say Raines has the least ability out of all of them, and that is saying something.

Awful, awful footballer.
The problem with Raines is he learnt to kick the wrong way.

He started with goal kicking, and quite wisely he was told to "aim for a spot in the crowd".

Sadly he then applied this to his field kicking.......so really he is actually hitting his targets 100% of the time. :eek:
 
Brisbane will be sh!t next year.

I will be punting they don't even make the 8.

Fev won't give a F*** when there is only 15,000 people watching him and not every kick is directed at him.

Fev is only a minor improvement on Bradshaw anyway and to get that minor improvment they gave up kane Lucas and Hendo.

They let Bradshaw and Mcdonald walk and pick up a swag of duds.

I have no idea how they expect to be better next year.


OK, I will put $500 on we will make the 8. Willing to take the bet?
 

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I think its funny that Brisbane talks about Carlton having a lack of depth when they're the one team in the AFL that will be relying on half a dozen players to win them football games.

I wish I could play their backline. Hell, they made Cameron Cloke look competent in the Final up there.

I'm shocked people view their backline as being quality. If it wasn't for their defensive forwards and midfielders (Rischitelli, Black, etc.) they'd be leaking like a sieve. The next time Merrett plays defense without giving away free kicks (I thought our SOS and T-Bird were/are bad, this guy's ten times worse than they ever were) will be a first.

If they're expecting big things from any of their recruits not named Brendan then they've got another thing coming. Raines could do well (I like him, being part of an AFL team will do him the world of good, now that he's out of the minor leagues), but he's about the only one of their mediocre pickups that can.

This post is bordering on delusional. It is clear you don't watch too many Brisbane games. For example:

- Our defence was our strongest department last year. 5th least conceeded points in the league.

- It is true we were fairly relient on a few players last year, but this is where our trading comes in. Our midfield is still our weakest area, but we have recruited young mids to deal with this, and the drafting of X clarke should help too, if he can get fit.

- Cameron Cloke...made to look competent, yet not competent enough to get another contract? Please. He was given that space, with his defender given a mind to watch Fev's space. Worked for me.

- Raines is not our best recruit. Carlton's 7 time leading goal kicker is.
 
Brisbane's recruiting for 2010 has a hint of desperation about it. It will be interesting to see if it reaps rewards this season otherwise Vossy's ego will result in a lost year for developing several young players for the next decade.
 
Brisbane's recruiting for 2010 has a hint of desperation about it. It will be interesting to see if it reaps rewards this season otherwise Vossy's ego will result in a lost year for developing several young players for the next decade.

Geezus, its amazing what one pre season shitty interview from Vossy mentioing about Browny and Fev can create on the Blues board.. 12 pages and counting!

Lookout when the real stuff starts, there will be a meltdown here when Browny and Fev kick 10 + between them in round 2.

Jamo on Fev? Cmon. I rate Jamo but you obviously havent seen how fit Fev is looking up North. He'll push over Jamo with 1 finger.

Thornton on Brown? Yeah maybe if you have Waite and Kruezer dropping back like you usually do.

Its becoming a tasty rivalry between the Lions and the Blues.
 
Geezus, its amazing what one pre season shitty interview from Vossy mentioing about Browny and Fev can create on the Blues board.. 12 pages and counting!

Lookout when the real stuff starts, there will be a meltdown here when Browny and Fev kick 10 + between them in round 2.

Jamo on Fev? Cmon. I rate Jamo but you obviously havent seen how fit Fev is looking up North. He'll push over Jamo with 1 finger.

Thornton on Brown? Yeah maybe if you have Waite and Kruezer dropping back like you usually do.

Its becoming a tasty rivalry between the Lions and the Blues.

I would've thought 10 between Brown and Fev would be an average day at the office.

A lot of Blues supporters here are taking the piss out of Brisbane but really it's just denial, isn't it?

Fev has been dynamite on field for the last few years and he will be again. As much as we might hope that Brown and Fev run into each other every game (whatever), the reality is, the combination of the two of them can only make life hell for any defence.

So why blame Brisbane fellas? It's not their fault that they had one of the top two goal kickers in the league fall in their lap (they already had the other one). Surely it's our own folly, and if they have a great year and they're laughing at us, then it's with some good reason...
 
Geezus, its amazing what one pre season shitty interview from Vossy mentioing about Browny and Fev can create on the Blues board.. 12 pages and counting!

Lookout when the real stuff starts, there will be a meltdown here when Browny and Fev kick 10 + between them in round 2.

Jamo on Fev? Cmon. I rate Jamo but you obviously havent seen how fit Fev is looking up North. He'll push over Jamo with 1 finger.

Thornton on Brown? Yeah maybe if you have Waite and Kruezer dropping back like you usually do.

Its becoming a tasty rivalry between the Lions and the Blues.

Fev is always fit this time of year & has been a man mountain for a number of years now. He hasn't suddenly got fitter & stronger because he is now on the Lions' list. Jamo will have a fair idea how to counter him. They have played on each other several times at training & in intra-club matches.

Brown kicks his 3-4 goals most games against us, but it doesn't always get Brisbane over the line. Thornton did alright against him in the last quarter of the Round 21, 2008 game when Waite was moved to the forward line (& kicked 2 goals in that quarter).

FWIW, Brown & Bradshaw kicked 9 goals between them in both the aforementioned 2008 game & in Round 2, 2009, both games won by Carlton. You will need to hope that Fev & Brown do kick 10+ goals between them in Round 2 because there are very few other avenues to goal in the Brisbane team (scored 253 less points than Carlton during the 2009 home & away season, despite Brown & Bradshaw kicking 143 goals for the season).
 
Geezus, its amazing what one pre season shitty interview from Vossy mentioing about Browny and Fev can create on the Blues board.. 12 pages and counting!

Lookout when the real stuff starts, there will be a meltdown here when Browny and Fev kick 10 + between them in round 2.

Jamo on Fev? Cmon. I rate Jamo but you obviously havent seen how fit Fev is looking up North. He'll push over Jamo with 1 finger. ....

Fev's crucial asset to his game is his burst speed. It peaked in season 2008, and has slowly tampered since. He was still very quick in season 2009, but you could see a few defenders starting to catch up to him on the lead. He won't be getting any faster over the next few years. You've got yourselves a star FF, nearing the end of his career. Once a leading FF loses that speed off the mark, their demise happens very quickly e.g. Lloyd. Fev has about 2 years left in this role. He can't play any other position.

BTW Jamo will have no problems. Jamo is huge and very very fast. Not sure if you're aware, but we know exactly how Fev plays FF.

:)
 
I would've thought 10 between Brown and Fev would be an average day at the office.

A lot of Blues supporters here are taking the piss out of Brisbane but really it's just denial, isn't it?

Fev has been dynamite on field for the last few years and he will be again. As much as we might hope that Brown and Fev run into each other every game (whatever), the reality is, the combination of the two of them can only make life hell for any defence.

So why blame Brisbane fellas? It's not their fault that they had one of the top two goal kickers in the league fall in their lap (they already had the other one). Surely it's our own folly, and if they have a great year and they're laughing at us, then it's with some good reason...

Damn you and your sense making!! Good post JFG...as always
 
Geezus, its amazing what one pre season shitty interview from Vossy mentioing about Browny and Fev can create on the Blues board.. 12 pages and counting!

Lookout when the real stuff starts, there will be a meltdown here when Browny and Fev kick 10 + between them in round 2.

Jamo on Fev? Cmon. I rate Jamo but you obviously havent seen how fit Fev is looking up North. He'll push over Jamo with 1 finger.

Thornton on Brown? Yeah maybe if you have Waite and Kruezer dropping back like you usually do.

Its becoming a tasty rivalry between the Lions and the Blues.

Fev and Brown will need to kick a bag, as any other goalkickers have been pretty scarce for the Lions in recent memory. And, I reckon Jamo will be more confident playing on Fev than what he was playing on Bradshaw, who he did a pretty good job on anyway.

Should be a ripping game up at the Gabba in round two anyway.
 
Your math is faulty we will be a contender during the compromised drafts and rebuilding when they are over in a few years.

We are a contender now and in a few years we stock up on high draft picks when we bottom out.

As for our midfield we have Rich,Redden and Proud and just picked up a likely gun in Callum Bartlett. Our midfield is starting to build nicely for the future.

We have experience in trading early picks for average players. It was ugly. Staker, Buchanan and Clarke (I know he was for pick 60) will add little and I'm wondering if you actually gained given who you lost. Fev's a great pick up but you lost Bradshaw, Henderson, pick 12 not to mention the possibility of losing a p1ssed off Rischitelli to the GC next year, even that trade is diluted. He does need to win a flag given what he's done on the trade table. No flag followed by a huge drop due to the lack of early picks coming through will look bad.
 

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