WADA threat looms for Cousins

[Brewster_]

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But no, west Coast opted to go by the word of a drug using, continually misbehaving 'untouchable' . Its about as believable as some of the Bold and the Beautiful plots

You've admitted to getting on the " stuff " several times on here to give yourself more street cred. Now you're saying drug users can't be trusted. That includes you.
Get over yourself.

 

[FuManchu]

Have you checked your closet lately. On second thoughts you'd better not, you might not like what you see.

Ironically West Coast will now have the cleanest club in the AFL, now lets have a look at each of the other 15 clubs individually like they have the Eagles.

I have said all along every club is rotten in some regard

I dont defend Collingwood when it handles things incorrectly. but west Coast supporters are finding excuses here to defend the undefendable. I just want them to answer the hard questions.

If Collingwood handled this the way west Coast handled it, I'd be screaming at the admin.

 

[bigsam]

stop your whinging and get on with it

you should pay closer attention to your signature...

 

[FuManchu]

You've admitted to getting on the " stuff " several times on here to give yourself more street cred. Now you're saying drug users can't be trusted. That includes you.
Get over yourself.

Cousins has lied for the sake of continuing, I havent, see the diff?

besides, I am self employed, and I dont turn up to work in an unfit manner and I took steps to employ a day to day manager to run my business. I'm free to do as I please and it affects no-one.

Can Cousins say that?

 

[Brewster_]

I asked the question "Should the AFL award the 2006 flag to the Swans?"

As you know the 85 to 84 final margin was just 1.19%.

The results were were surprisingly one sided.

Poll Results

You should send that to the AFL. The intellectuals of Bigfooty cannot be ignored.

 

[Brewster_]

Cousins has lied for the sake of continuing, I havent, see the diff?

besides, I am self employed, and I dont turn up to work in an unfit manner and I took steps to employ a day to day manager to run my business. I'm free to do as I please and it affects no-one.

Can Cousins say that?

You could say whatever you want. Doesn't mean we should believe it.

 

[FuManchu]

You could say whatever you want. Doesn't mean we should believe it.

If only west coast took that stance with cousins


lol

 

[Brewster_]

If only west coast took that stance with cousins


lol

Oh well. Now I'm taking that stance with you. You can't be trusted.

 

[FuManchu]

Oh well. Now I'm taking that stance with you. You can't be trusted.

Ah well, I'll have to stand my self down from the next two days of work

 

[iscah]

Drug cheats is the lowest anyone can stoop to in professional support (bar maybe match fixing). Cousins is not credible in anything he says and Worsfold is either very dumb, arrogant or lying when he talks about what he knows. How can they possibly say they could not do anything as a club with what was happening, that they did not know what he was really on, that hey did everything possible. They take the public and press over here for granted. but that is slowly changing.

If he played with amphetamines he was clearly cheating and many games, not just the GF have therefore been won by cheating.

Worse though... if Cousins is indeed the spiritual leader of the club, and WC are supposed to have up to 8 players with drug issues in past times, including clearly Kerr, Cousins and Fletcher, then how many of them would have seen that taking drugs also has a consequence of improved onfield performance. And so followed his behaviour ?

The club is in disgrace for off field behaviour, but more importantly for onfield integrity they should be investigated by an independent body and if proven the club should be stripped of any wins affected by this cheating. Then start this season with maybe 6 minus wins to show that no club should ever become this grubby again.

 

[zero]

so, thats a 'no I have no answer'?

actually, thats a "youve been bitchslapped on the first 10 pages of this thread, why do we need to continue"

 

[imright]

Drug cheats is the lowest anyone can stoop to in professional support (bar maybe match fixing). Cousins is not credible in anything he says and Worsfold is either very dumb, arrogant or lying when he talks about what he knows. How can they possibly say they could not do anything as a club with what was happening, that they did not know what he was really on, that hey did everything possible. They take the public and press over here for granted. but that is slowly changing.

If he played with amphetamines he was clearly cheating and many games, not just the GF have therefore been won by cheating.

Worse though... if Cousins is indeed the spiritual leader of the club, and WC are supposed to have up to 8 players with drug issues in past times, including clearly Kerr, Cousins and Fletcher, then how many of them would have seen that taking drugs also has a consequence of improved onfield performance. And so followed his behaviour ?

The club is in disgrace for off field behaviour, but more importantly for onfield integrity they should be investigated by an independent body and if proven the club should be stripped of any wins affected by this cheating. Then start this season with maybe 6 minus wins to show that no club should ever become this grubby again.

So in summary you don't like the Eagles?

 

[FuManchu]

actually, thats a "youve been bitchslapped on the first 10 pages of this thread, why do we need to continue"

actually, it's that not one supporter can answer any of the hard questions posed here with any credibility other than with 'we chose to ignore the obvious'

That line seems to have lost you cousins for an indefinite period. Good luck with that stance

 

[zero]

actually, it's that not one supporter can answer any of the hard questions posed here with any credibility other than with 'we chose to ignore the obvious'

actually, its been answered over and over again, you just ignore the answers and reask it.

because your nothing but a troll

youve actually got this hilarious idea that deliberately misinterpreting a quote and ignoring answers makes you george negus.

when actually it makes you naomi robson

 

[campbell]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21488330-421,00.html


HOSPITAL emergency departments are struggling to cope with the growing number of people requiring medical treatment after using the drug ice, according to two studies published in the latest edition of the Medical Journal of Australia.

The results have prompted doctors working in drug-addiction treatment to call for more resources to deal with the growing scourge.

Ice, or crystalline methamphetamine, is a potent stimulant that can cause violent rages and erratic behaviour. It has led to an increase in the number of patients requiring treatment in emergency departments for heart problems and psychosis.
The study found that amphetamines such as ice were the main drivers of the rise in drug-induced psychoses, overtaking marijuana.

Another study, by Royal Perth Hospital's registrar in Emergency Medicine Suzanne Gray found that 20 per cent of all amphetamine-related presentations at the hospital had required police assistance. The patients were often aggressive, required long emergency department admission and consumed considerable resources.

"A third of patients required sedation, which correlated with a high pre-hospital, nursing, medical and security load to manage these patients safely," Dr Gray said.

"Further contributing to the impact are the high rates of repeat attendance and the large proportion of patients with underlying psychiatric illness and a history of drug dependence.

 

[Obi-Haive]

Drug cheats is the lowest anyone can stoop to in professional support (bar maybe match fixing). Cousins is not credible in anything he says and Worsfold is either very dumb, arrogant or lying when he talks about what he knows. How can they possibly say they could not do anything as a club with what was happening, that they did not know what he was really on, that hey did everything possible. They take the public and press over here for granted. but that is slowly changing.

If he played with amphetamines he was clearly cheating and many games, not just the GF have therefore been won by cheating.

Worse though... if Cousins is indeed the spiritual leader of the club, and WC are supposed to have up to 8 players with drug issues in past times, including clearly Kerr, Cousins and Fletcher, then how many of them would have seen that taking drugs also has a consequence of improved onfield performance. And so followed his behaviour ?

The club is in disgrace for off field behaviour, but more importantly for onfield integrity they should be investigated by an independent body and if proven the club should be stripped of any wins affected by this cheating. Then start this season with maybe 6 minus wins to show that no club should ever become this grubby again.

He's back, complete with his anti-eagles prejudices and totally misguided, bordering on ignorant views on the topic at hand.

No doubt you have hard evidence to state so matter-of-factly that the Eagles are drug cheats. I'm sure that even though Cousins was tested negative four times between July and the Grand Final, you have resounding proof as to why this should be disregarded.

I look forward to seeing the results of your analytical and I'm sure even handed investigation.

 

[Obi-Haive]

actually, it's that not one supporter can answer any of the hard questions posed here with any credibility other than with 'we chose to ignore the obvious'

That line seems to have lost you cousins for an indefinite period. Good luck with that stance

Seriously mate, if you still think your "hard questions" haven't been answered there's no way anyone is going to be able to answer them to your satisfaction. Unless, of course, we go against all logic and reason to submit to your blinkered views.

Everything you've posed has been answered but like a dog with a bone you continue to deny what is being said and continually push this tired argument.

 

[Captain Random]

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21488330-421,00.html


HOSPITAL emergency departments are struggling to cope with the growing number of people requiring medical treatment after using the drug ice, according to two studies published in the latest edition of the Medical Journal of Australia.

Amphetamines are an epidemic in society. Footballers live in society. It's quite simple, really.

 

[skipper kelly]

One would hope that the AFL eventually take action against Cousins and West Coast for bringing the game into disrepute.

 

[MrChristo]

Did anyone see the cross to LA on the Sunday Footy Show?

The reporter said Cousins must have had a few things on his mind, becuase he didn't sleep for the entire 22 hours of the flight...

...hmmm... or...

 

[Alphanumeric]

Did anyone see the cross to LA on the Sunday Footy Show?

The reporter said Cousins must have had a few things on his mind, becuase he didn't sleep for the entire 22 hours of the flight...

...hmmm... or...

And did they report how many times he took a piss and what he ate??

 

[greennick]

actually, it's that not one supporter can answer any of the hard questions posed here with any credibility other than with 'we chose to ignore the obvious'

That line seems to have lost you cousins for an indefinite period. Good luck with that stance

I tried, but gave up. It seems that although you took on board certain aspects of other's arguments. You always came back to the key point that WC should have done more before.

Yes, with the benefit of hindsight, all WC supporters would agree that more should have been done last year. However, this neglects that, as Worsfold has said, there was no real evidence. Yes, if he was a lower player, he probably would have been given less chances. That is only natural. Good workers always get away with more in the workplace. Pretty girls always get away with more. That's life. However, without anything other than rumour and innuendo, what was to be done? Can you imagine the backlash of the WC fans if Cousins was suspended back in July for missing a total of 1 training session and having a few rumours floating around that he likes to have a big weekend? That would be ridiculous.

The fact of the matter is, from what I have heard on the grape vine, Cousins went off the rails after the GF win. He more or less partied from then till he was suspended. He was an occasional heavy user before, but became what would be classified as a substance abuser since then. That is why he missed a whole bunch of training sessions and started acting more aloof. That is why he was suspended. There was not enough circumstantial evidence before. They determined there was enough evidence after that final missed training session, particularly with the drawn out state Cousins eventually rocked up in.

On the point that he was using during the week and effectively risking being busted on game day. I am barely going to go into that because of how stupid of an idea it is. They train every day during the week. You cannot have this stuff at night and then rock up to training the next day. That is why he was always missing the FIRST training session of the week, not mid-week ones. This is evidence to the contrary of him using during the week.

Why would WC suspend a player they thought MAY (read: possibly, but without any evidence) be using illicit substances (illicit, not performance enhancing) after games (not before, so not under the influence during a game), when all the evidence is this is not affecting his training or his on-field performance? It's not like we were in the position of you guys, trying to lose games in order to get good draft picks!

If you cannot see this argument, you are either unwilling to see it because you want to see WC burn or you want to see all drug users burned. Which one is it? Maybe it's both...

 

[greennick]

Did anyone see the cross to LA on the Sunday Footy Show?

The reporter said Cousins must have had a few things on his mind, becuase he didn't sleep for the entire 22 hours of the flight...

...hmmm... or...

They are absolute dogs following him around like that.

Papparazzi > Channel 9 >>>> **** on my front yard

 

[Belgian_Tiger_Army]

Carlton forced two of their players to take tests.

And then the AFL/AFLPA changed the rules so clubs oculdn't drug test their own players....

 

[greennick]

One would hope that the AFL eventually take action against Cousins and West Coast for bringing the game into disrepute.

Of course you would, your a Sydney supporter.

I can't see how or why they would do it but. Would it not just encourage people to not openly admit their problems but hide them from the AFL, the media, and all and sundry. WC could have handled this in such a way that there were always questions, but no admissions. Say he's badly done his knee and send him to the states for special surgery and high altitude recovery. However, they did it openly and in the spotlight.