Europe Backdrop to the war in Ukraine

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[Green Hammer]

1% below Putin's. Make of that what you like!

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How much more than starmer trump macron trudeau?

 

[Bloods86]

How much more than starmer trump macron trudeau?

Why would people even bother to compare dictators propaganda with the results of democratic elections?

 

[Zidane98]

How much more than starmer trump macron trudeau?

Why are you asking? Different electoral systems.



None of the leaders you mentioned would get anywhere near a 80 + percent vote. That sort of thing generally happens in dictatorships.


Even Kim Jong's elections claim some opposition to him.


What is clear is the electoral system in Russia and Belarus is farcical.

 

[Chadwiko]

No better thread to discuss these, but the wave of anti-Russian sentiment we're seeing in Eastern Europe at the moment is a sight to behold.

Hundreds of thousands protesting in Slovakia against what they see as a pro-Putin Prime Minister disrespecting the wishes of the populace;





Similar protests in Moldova around the time of/leading up to their election;






There's massive anti-government protests in Serbia too, although the catalyst for those protests is not specifically anti-Russian in nature, it is undeniable that Serbia's government is pro-Russian and there's an element that can't be ignored;






And there's been big pro-Europe protests in Georgia too;





Serbia. Moldova. Slovakia. Georgia. What a spectacular indictment on Putin's strategy that he's emboldened almost all of Eastern Europe against Russia.

 

[Smeg Head]

Why are you asking? Different electoral systems.



None of the leaders you mentioned would get anywhere near a 80 + percent vote. That sort of thing generally happens in dictatorships.


Even Kim Jong's elections claim some opposition to him.


What is clear is the electoral system in Russia and Belarus is farcical.

Mark McGowan pulled in 82.8% of the primary vote and 87.7% of the two party proffered in his electorate in the 2021 WA State Election. Old Potatoshenko would be proud of that sort of result.

 

[Green Hammer]

Why are you asking? Different electoral systems.



None of the leaders you mentioned would get anywhere near a 80 + percent vote. That sort of thing generally happens in dictatorships.


Even Kim Jong's elections claim some opposition to him.


What is clear is the electoral system in Russia and Belarus is farcical.

Its a farce because they voted for the wrong person according to the west

 

[Green Hammer]

No better thread to discuss these, but the wave of anti-Russian sentiment we're seeing in Eastern Europe at the moment is a sight to behold.

Hundreds of thousands protesting in Slovakia against what they see as a pro-Putin Prime Minister disrespecting the wishes of the populace;


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Similar protests in Moldova around the time of/leading up to their election;


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There's massive anti-government protests in Serbia too, although the catalyst for those protests is not specifically anti-Russian in nature, it is undeniable that Serbia's government is pro-Russian and there's an element that can't be ignored;


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And there's been big pro-Europe protests in Georgia too;


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Serbia. Moldova. Slovakia. Georgia. What a spectacular indictment on Putin's strategy that he's emboldened almost all of Eastern Europe against Russia.

Slovakia loves democracy so much they tried to assassinate its leader!!!

 

[Baldur]

Another vatnik on ignore.

 

[Chadwiko]

Slovakia loves democracy so much they tried to assassinate its leader!!!

Navalny sends his regards.

 

[Green Hammer]

Why are you asking? Different electoral systems.



None of the leaders you mentioned would get anywhere near a 80 + percent vote. That sort of thing generally happens in dictatorships.


Even Kim Jong's elections claim some opposition to him.


What is clear is the electoral system in Russia and Belarus is farcical.

As farcical as western electoral system

 

[Green Hammer]

Navalny sends his regards.

Same as ukraine loves democracy so much as shown by 2014

 

[Bloods86]

Its a farce because they voted for the wrong person according to the west

That's not the farce. Read more.

 

[Bloods86]

Same as ukraine loves democracy so much as shown by 2014

Protests are a sign of democracy.

They arose because the then President switched the constituency he served from Ukrainians to Putin.

 

[Green Hammer]

That's not the farce. Read more.

Yes its worse!

 

[Green Hammer]

Protests are a sign of democracy.

They arose because the then President switched the constituency he served from Ukrainians to Putin.

Where does a coup fit in with democracy ?? You have limited understanding on these events

 

[Bloods86]

Where does a coup fit in with democracy ?? You have limited understanding on these events

It doesn't. Unfortunately, after Ukraine rebuffed Russia's attempt to coerce it into economic agreements it didn't want, there was an invasion and coups orchestrated by Russia, not known for democracy.

 

[Green Hammer]

It doesn't. Unfortunately, after Ukraine rebuffed Russia's attempt to coerce it into economic agreements it didn't want, there was an invasion and coups orchestrated by Russia, not known for democracy.

OMG lots wrong with that. Yanukovych turned to russia for economic ties after european union added extra conditions he saw as unacceptable.

 

[Green Hammer]

Good you agree that it wasn't really a vote at all.

Its all a farce!!!

 

[Mobbs]

OMG lots wrong with that. Yanukovych turned to russia for economic ties after european union added extra conditions he saw as unacceptable.

Please quote some of those extra conditions.

 

[Chadwiko]

Same as ukraine loves democracy so much as shown by 2014

Power of the people.

 

[Chadwiko]

Hey Green Hammer I'm going to take a wild guess about some of your opinions. You tell me how many of these I guessed correctly okay?

• Dislikes the Democrats in the US
• Dislikes "the West"
• Loves Elon Musk
• Loves Bitcoin
• Hates Covid vaccinations
• Hates Covid lockdowns
• Hates the Labor party in Australia
• Likes guns
• Doesn't like Trans people
• Supported Brexit

I'm guessing I scored a minimum 7/10

Let me know.

 

[Green Hammer]

Hey Green Hammer I'm going to take a wild guess about some of your opinions. You tell me how many of these I guessed correctly okay?

• Dislikes the Democrats in the US
• Dislikes "the West"
• Loves Elon Musk
• Loves Bitcoin
• Hates Covid vaccinations
• Hates Covid lockdowns
• Hates the Labor party in Australia
• Likes guns
• Doesn't like Trans people
• Supported Brexit

I'm guessing I scored a minimum 7/10

Let me know.

How right wing can you be in asking this

 

[Green Hammer]

Power of the people.

Victoria nuland people

 

[Green Hammer]

Please quote some of those extra conditions.

Is this new to you Mobbs?

 

[Mobbs]

Is this new to you Mobbs?

No it's not new to me. People come here making claims and then failing to back it up all the time. Anything but new.