Certified Legendary Thread Welcome Tim Taranto & Jacob Hopper

[Rayzorwire]

Our problem was, while we dominated hitouts, we lost clearances. Our midfield system does indeed need a tweak. We should be fixing that with new assistant(s) next yr on top of 2 gun mids.

Couldn't agree more, we've been tactically mediocre at some very puzzling stages of key games in the last two years.

People have short memories. Taranto has won a BnF in a grand final team and becasue spuds like Coniglio can’t play anywhere else he has had to move out of his preferred role. I’d have Taranto ahead of Dunkley as an overall player. Dunkley would have been a great get as well.

Reckon in the end, luck with injury may well be the deciding factor in who has the better 2nd half to their career, there's little to split them at this stage, IMO.

I'm hoping Taranto has more upside and if I had to make a call on longevity, Dunkley's shoulders worry me more than Taranto's past issues.

Hopefully both have long careers.

 

[Calcium Man]

Ryan has so much Liam McBean/Gourdis hype for mine.

Ultimatley guy was a late pick who has gone ok in the VFL and is probably a 20% chance of playing 100 games. Hope I’m wrong.

McBean was a 200cm small forward though. Reckon Ryan has more substance to his game.

I also think our development today is way better then in 2012.

 

[TigerTime88]

McBean was a 200cm small forward though. Reckon Ryan has more substance to his game.

I also think our development today is way better then in 2012.

I just think people should cool there jets on a project player. Hope the kid goes well.

 

[Lacustrus]

Ryan has so much Liam McBean/Gourdis hype for mine.

Ultimatley guy was a late pick who has gone ok in the VFL and is probably a 20% chance of playing 100 games. Hope I’m wrong.

Ryan can take an overhead mark; McBean couldn’t

 

[TigerTime88]

Ryan can take an overhead mark; McBean couldn’t

Again not hating on the kid and if he makes it he will take a few years and won’t be a part of any premiership push this team makes.

His VFL stats are ok at 12 touches, 4 marks and just over a goal a game. Feel like it’s a massive step up to AFL level and he will need to be dominating VFL before you could consider him being a second option at AFL level.

 

[Mr Unbelievable]

If we get Taranto and Hopper, the whole AFL will hate us and be even more against us. We will need flags because they will try their best to stop us and make fun or us for the whole 7 years .
let’s try and get 2-3 flags at least
will be epic if we pull it off

 

[richoatthedisco]

If not the most talented list, most talented in modern era. Imo

Biggest myth in footy.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Biggest myth in footy.

If you look at the draft picks and pre draft player selections they were given.

Prior to the Cameron trade it was a decent list

 

[richoatthedisco]

If you look at the draft picks and pre draft player selections they were given.

Prior to the Cameron trade it was a decent list

I'm looking at the players.

Myth.

 

[Marcel Proust]

I'm looking at the players.

Myth.

Pretty good bunch of players prior to cotchin snapping dylan shiel

 

[sportshow]

Ryan can take an overhead mark; McBean couldn’t

and he has a hard edge that a ruckman needs to have .... not afraid of the work ....

 

[RichLeMonde]

I'm looking at the players.

Myth.

Richmond premiership player AAs (whether for us or other club)

• Rance
• Martin
• Cotchin
• Houli
• Edwards
• Lunch (with GC)
• Riewoldt
• Grimes
• Bolton

GWS AA

• Cameron
• Greene
• Whitfield
• Kelly
• Haynes
• Shaw
• Shiel

Richmond AA squad players

• Brandon Ellis
• Caddy

-Lambert

• Prestia
• Vlaustin

GWS AA squad players

• Ward
• Coniglio
• Scully
• Treloar (Collingwood)
• Hopper

They had a pretty good list for a team that won no flags. I know AA and AA squad isn’t the be all and end all, but would be curious to see how many St Kilda around 2010 had, compared with GWS 2015-2019

 

[Morro]

Richmond premiership player AAs (whether for us or other club)

• Rance
• Martin
• Cotchin
• Houli
• Edwards
• Lunch (with GC)
• Riewoldt
• Grimes
• Bolton

GWS AA

• Cameron
• Greene
• Whitfield
• Kelly
• Haynes
• Shaw
• Shiel

Richmond AA squad players

• Brandon Ellis
• Caddy

-Lambert

• Prestia
• Vlaustin

GWS AA squad players

• Ward
• Coniglio
• Scully
• Treloar (Collingwood)
• Hopper

They had a pretty good list for a team that won no flags. I know AA and AA squad isn’t the be all and end all, but would be curious to see how many St Kilda around 2010 had, compared with GWS 2015-2019

There is no denying that they were jam packed with elite talent. They were either poorly coached or had shit attitudes/heart

 

[Marcel Proust]

If they are poorly coached, that doesn't mean the list isn't very talented.

Another indicator is , look at how much money gws and former gws players are getting paid

 

[jc12]

Thanks mate. Now we will end up not getting BOTH and panic trading Liam stocker

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Liam Stocker

Age

24

Ht

184cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

8.4

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

180.0

3star

in instead

 

[richoatthedisco]

Pretty good bunch of players prior to cotchin snapping dylan shiel

Pretty average bunch. No one at Dusty's talent level. Or Jack's. Or Cotch's. Or Shedda's. Or Shai's. Or Rioli's.

 

[richoatthedisco]

There is no denying that they were jam packed with elite talent. They were either poorly coached or had s**t attitudes/heart

Jam-packed with B-graders.

 

[lvt06]

Is it Trade week yet?

 

[RJK Tiger]

There is no denying that they were jam packed with elite talent. They were either poorly coached or had s**t attitudes/heart

None of the above.

You can't fake culture.

They are not a real club with a real culture yet. Playing in front of 8,000 people each week vs 60,000 is not the preparation required to win a flag. The club is like a simulation. It has all the aspects of a real club, except its not

 

[THE THIN MAN]

 

[poppa pump]

Fair enough if that's what the stats say but I stick to what I said, Taranto is a more damaging player. I'm not looking to debate it. Dunkley is a fine player but I will be very pleased if we sign Taranto. He has XFactor as well as matching Dunkley defensively imo

It would be interesting to know how many times he has kicked two in a game.

Agree that Taranto is the better player as tigers know that Dunkley runs 12.5-14 kms per game while
Taranto runs a elitev14-15.5 kms per game.

 

[lvt06]

Dyl and Friends with David Astbury

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David Astbury

Age

33

Ht

195cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

MG

204.2

3star

D

14.8

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

5.0

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.5

2star

MG

230.8

4star

D

8.4

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.4

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

. He is already talking about Taranto and Hopper like they've signed.

 

[Calcium Man]

Dyl and Friends with David Astbury. He is already talking about Taranto and Hopper like they've signed.

Is Dave still involved with the club?

 

[rfctigerarmy]

Is Dave still involved with the club?

Looks like he's been on holidays most of the year.

 

[lvt06]

Is Dave still involved with the club?

He is working with Emma, but not at Richmond. It was one of Dyls best Pods.
He spent 12 months in Europe doing mindfulness with the hockeyroo girls.