Universal Love Welcome to Freo- Josh Treacy

[CapitalA]

A player half as good as Amiss would still have a pretty good career.

I don't think he realises that Jye Amiss is an outlier in performance for his age. Quite funny tbh.

 

[FreoRicci]

Amiss has kicked 29 goals as a 19 year old KPF. Treacy in his third season has kicked 31 goals total in double the games. My personal opinion is he would be a great WAFL/SANFL forward but he doesn't have the extra dimension at AFL level that is required of forwards.

Perhaps Amiss’ development is a testament to Treacy’s work off the ball? The two compliment each other.

On that basis, Switkowski should be delisted immediately

 

[Bradesmaen]

Perhaps Amiss’ development is a testament to Treacy’s work off the ball? The two compliment each other.

On that basis, Switkowski should be delisted immediately

Switta is having a down season that is all. Treacy makes Crab look elite.

 

[MadMundy]

Treacy being signed is good keep playing him every week and I'll guarantee that both he and Treacy are going to become one of the best forward duos in the competition.

 

[freodog]

Amiss has kicked 29 goals as a 19 year old KPF. Treacy in his third season has kicked 31 goals total in double the games. My personal opinion is he would be a great WAFL/SANFL forward but he doesn't have the extra dimension at AFL level that is required of forwards.

I think Treacy is a selfless player and does a lot blocking & clearing space so Amiss and other forwards can perform their best.

 

[Dockernut]

Stoked we get to keep the Cyclone around. Kid is a bull.

 

[mattis117]

What's with the vendetta...?

 

[arsesmart]

Switta is having a down season that is all. Treacy makes Crab look elite.

A lot of people would've been rating Darcy Fogarty lowly two and a half years into his AFL existence too.

 

[freo_leo29]

A lot of people would've been rating Darcy Fogarty lowly two and a half years into his AFL existence too.

Why stop there? You can genuinely list dozens of KPF's who were average in their first 2/3

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Why stop there? You can genuinely list dozens of KPF's who were average in their first 2/3

Just Brades being Brades really

 

[Dump Truck]

I'd take 500 goals form our third tall any day!

Tough to hear Amiss goes backpacking for 2 years celebrating our threepeat

 

[Bradesmaen]

Just Brades being Brades really

Just Brades having an opinion*

I'm happy to be proven wrong but right now he is not on a track to progress to AFL standard consistently.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Just Brades having an opinion*

I'm happy to be proven wrong but right now he is not on a track to progress to AFL standard consistently.

Yeah but you love a good controversial opinion to upset the sheeple. I'm not going to say he's a lock to be a gun (and I've never been as big on him as others) but using arguably the most exciting pure forward we've ever had as a measuring stick is almost as rough as saying you would have been ok delisting him at the end of the year.

If Treacy is half the player Amiss is I'd be ****ing stoked, that's a decent AFL player

 

[Bradesmaen]

Yeah but you love a good controversial opinion to upset the sheeple. I'm not going to say he's a lock to be a gun (and I've never been as big on him as others) but using arguably the most exciting pure forward we've ever had as a measuring stick is almost as rough as saying you would have been ok delisting him at the end of the year.

If Treacy is half the player Amiss is I'd be ******* stoked, that's a decent AFL player

see I'd disagree and say if he's half the player, he wont be that decent.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

see I'd disagree and say if he's half the player, he wont be that decent.

Not as big on Jye as others? I picture him being a 60-70 goal a year forward so Treacy could be a 30-40 goal a year forward. That's a decent player

 

[Bradesmaen]

Not as big on Jye as others? I picture him being a 60-70 goal a year forward so Treacy could be a 30-40 goal a year forward. That's a decent player

No, I don't think Jye is going to be kicking more than 60 goals in this day and age very often. 30 a year? I doubt Treacy gets near that, but if he does then I'd expect him to be providing link up play and getting higher disposals than he already does. Often he's caught behind his man or in completely the wrong spot.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

No, I don't think Jye is going to be kicking more than 60 goals in this day and age very often.

Really? There's a few kicking over 60 goals every year even in this day and age. Only the COVID years have had a Coleman less than 60 and I think they'll continue to look for ways to keep scoring up. I think Jye will consistently be in the top 4 or so goal kickers each year since he can kick them in lots of different ways so I'll back him to be a consistent 60 goal a year forward.

If Treacy just holds 2 more marks a game it would be a massive difference to his impact. We'll see how it plays out

 

[arsesmart]

No, I don't think Jye is going to be kicking more than 60 goals in this day and age very often. 30 a year? I doubt Treacy gets near that, but if he does then I'd expect him to be providing link up play and getting higher disposals than he already does. Often he's caught behind his man or in completely the wrong spot.

There's having an opinion and there's having an informed opinion.

Treacy is halfway through his third season after his second was ruined by illness and injury. Not getting to play footy in his draft year could easily have had impact on his pace of development. He's a key position forward...

I don't know any informed opinions could be logically definitive on his potential.

 

[mayne man]

Switta is having a down season that is all. Treacy makes Crab look elite.

And what was tabs doing as a 20 year old?
Treacy hasn’t put it all together yet but has shown glimpses at afl level and shown decent ability and form in the wafl

 

[Dockeroo]

There's having an opinion and there's having an informed opinion.

Treacy is halfway through his third season after his second was ruined by illness and injury. Not getting to play footy in his draft year could easily have had impact on his pace of development. He's a key position forward...

I don't know any informed opinions could be logically definitive on his potential.

I’m a long term fan of Treacy on this board but it does bother me a bit that he’s isn’t the most clinical forward going around... if you need 5 shots at goal to kick 2 goals that’s not very sustainable in intense finals footy.
Amiss will likely average 3-4 goals for every 5 opportunities he gets by comparison.

Darcy Fogarty comparisons with JT are a bit off still IMO - Fogarty has always been a beautiful set shot and very accurate and efficient in front of goal. His issue was he didn’t see much of the pill in those earlier years.
Josh is shaping to be a good honest workhorse at AFL level. A great result from the rookie list actually. On our prospective premiership team in 2-3 years time, you can get away with maybe 2 or 3 of the 7 forwards in the 22 being like that. Not 5 though.
However if Amiss kicks 70 a year then JT will be an ok foil beside him chipping in with 25-30 goals a season. I can deal with that.
It’s the small forward options that bother me, especially when Sonny retires.
If Schultz wants to leave I wouldn’t be too stressed. See if we can use whatever we get for him as an opportunity to upgrade that position.

 

[Jezzitizle]

If Treacy starts holding his marks it’ll make a huge difference.

At the moment I’m surprised in games when he holds onto one.

His confidence will skyrocket and he is a good user.

 

[arsesmart]

I’m a long term fan of Treacy on this board but it does bother me a bit that he’s isn’t the most clinical forward going around... if you need 5 shots at goal to kick 2 goals that’s not very sustainable in intense finals footy.
Amiss will likely average 3-4 goals for every 5 opportunities he gets by comparison.

Darcy Fogarty comparisons with JT are a bit off still IMO - Fogarty has always been a beautiful set shot and very accurate and efficient in front of goal. His issue was he didn’t see much of the pill in those earlier years.
Josh is shaping to be a good honest workhorse at AFL level. A great result from the rookie list actually. On our prospective premiership team in 2-3 years time, you can get away with maybe 2 or 3 of the 7 forwards in the 22 being like that. Not 5 though.
However if Amiss kicks 70 a year then JT will be an ok foil beside him chipping in with 25-30 goals a season. I can deal with that.
It’s the small forward options that bother me, especially when Sonny retires.
If Schultz wants to leave I wouldn’t be too stressed. See if we can use whatever we get for him as an opportunity to upgrade that position.

Fogarty was used as a developmental comparison ie that a KPF not having a blistering start to their careers isn't cause to write them off. Of course there are variations between their strengths and weaknesses (there's no mandatory set). But so too those will mix and morph as the player develops.

 

[arsesmart]

If Treacy starts holding his marks it’ll make a huge difference.

At the moment I’m surprised in games when he holds onto one.

His confidence will skyrocket and he is a good user.

One of the exciting signs in the preseason was seeing Treacy starting to clunk some big pack marks. You're right, it's a key piece that could transform his game and how much of a potential weapon he could be.

 

[Piggy Smalls]

Forward craft aside - Treacy’s ability to burst out of congestion and drive us forward when playing on ball is pretty unique for a player of his type IMO. There’s heaps to work with over the next three years.

 

[E Shed]

I’m a long term fan of Treacy on this board but it does bother me a bit that he’s isn’t the most clinical forward going around... if you need 5 shots at goal to kick 2 goals that’s not very sustainable in intense finals footy.
Amiss will likely average 3-4 goals for every 5 opportunities he gets by comparison.

Darcy Fogarty comparisons with JT are a bit off still IMO - Fogarty has always been a beautiful set shot and very accurate and efficient in front of goal. His issue was he didn’t see much of the pill in those earlier years.
Josh is shaping to be a good honest workhorse at AFL level. A great result from the rookie list actually. On our prospective premiership team in 2-3 years time, you can get away with maybe 2 or 3 of the 7 forwards in the 22 being like that. Not 5 though.
However if Amiss kicks 70 a year then JT will be an ok foil beside him chipping in with 25-30 goals a season. I can deal with that.
It’s the small forward options that bother me, especially when Sonny retires.
If Schultz wants to leave I wouldn’t be too stressed. See if we can use whatever we get for him as an opportunity to upgrade that position.

Treacy has always been a beautiful set shot too, at the lower level. But he’s not the first youngster to be affected by nerves at the top level. Neither of the King boys did very well at set shots when they first started but both have settled nicely.
On the whole I would list a long, accurate set shot under the plus column for Josh.