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[Upgrayedd]

Well then. He's had a brilliant year now hasn;'t he

 

[HODGEYROAD]

With all due respect, it is pretty exciting to think he could have just saved us over a million bucks and two more years of blushes.

This is all I care about, freeing up cap space for the loss of a Box Hill player would be so handy.

 

[tige19]

Over 10 years ago, a mate of mine used to own and run a restaurant (a busy one) in Richmond for about 2 years. I reckon it took years off his life. After a stint as an economist (he completed a masters in economics at university) he decided to become a licensed second-hand dealer and now exclusively deals on eBay and the like. Keeps his entrepreneurial spirit going but without the stress of running a restaurant.

I would love to learn the art of trading online, I just can't get my head around it. I love business, but probably like your mate being inside the engine room day in day out can be highly stressful.

Hospitality is well known for being such a shonky business, so much physical cash exchanges hands that a situation like this occuring (Vickery) is highly likely, particularly when you have a business partner who in all likelihood is there much more than he is. I don't know how anyone could go into business with friends, absolute craziness.

 

[11sjw]

Well then. He's had a brilliant year now hasn;'t he

How will Box Hill cope without him?

 

[The Offerman]

I think regardless now Vickery's time with Hawthorn is done. How much it costs us depends on if he's found guilty.

So if he's not guilty of anything he should still be sacked? Why?

 

[tige19]

This is all I care about, freeing up cap space for the loss of a Box Hill player would be so handy.

The point I was trying to make is this.... Does his salary get wiped from our books if he is paid out and terminated because of this? Could help us immensely with recruiting another FA and/or making a mega offer to Ryan Burton to keep him at the club for the next 5-7 years.

 

[Dixie Flatline]

I would love to learn the art of trading online, I just can't get my head around it. I love business, but probably like your mate being inside the engine room day in day out can be highly stressful.

Hospitality is well known for being such a shonky business, so much physical cash exchanges hands that a situation like this occuring (Vickery) is highly likely, particularly when you have a business partner who in all likelihood is there much more than he is. I don't know how anyone could go into business with friends, absolute craziness.

Yeah, my mate was hands on in the business which he co-owned with his brothers. He grew up in hospitality so he thought he knew what he was getting into, but having to deal with all the shit that comes with owning a restaurant (including some fairly unstable head chefs) just got too much for him so he sold out (apparently at a tidy profit). The new owners changed the name, the look, the menu, etc of the restaurant and it went downhill immediately.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

The point I was trying to make is this.... Does his salary get wiped from our books if he is paid out and terminated because of this? Could help us immensely with recruiting another FA and/or making a mega offer to Ryan Burton to keep him at the club for the next 5-7 years.

It would likely depend if he has breeched any clauses in his contract, if so I would say it would be voided and free up cap space for us.

 

[11sjw]

The point I was trying to make is this.... Does his salary get wiped from our books if he is paid out and terminated because of this? Could help us immensely with recruiting another FA and/or making a mega offer to Ryan Burton to keep him at the club for the next 5-7 years.

If he was convicted there wouldn't be a payout IMO as there'd be a contract clause voided. Hence no cap hit.

If the HFC choose to f*ck him off (ala Fevola from Brissy) there'd be some type of payout/cap hit.

 

[Furn2]

Debt collection isn't illegal but hiring Jake King doesn't sound a like a smart move.

 

[footyfan1978]

How will Box Hill cope without him?

I want our Northern Blues 4 premiership points back.

 

[The Offerman]

If he's not in consideration for senior selection and he's becoming a distraction for the club I reckon we'd cut our ties.

I highly doubt he'll play another game for Hawthorn. I'm saying that as someone who before today had not said a single negative thing about Ty in his time at Hawthorn.

I recall a journo saying that very line earlier this year. Two days later he was selected. At the moment everything you're basing your opinion on is pure rumour.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Debt collection isn't illegal but hiring Jake King doesn't sound a like a smart move.

Extortion is illegal though.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Sidebar: Is Dusty Martin still close to Jake King?? Just wondering if that casts any doubt about wanting him at our club.

 

[Stranglers]

But how will this affect his chances of winning the Peter Crimmins Medal this year?

 

[Tuck In]

Over 10 years ago, a mate of mine used to own and run a restaurant (a busy one) in Richmond for about 2 years. I reckon it took years off his life. After a stint as an economist (he completed a masters in economics at university) he decided to become a licensed second-hand dealer and now exclusively deals on eBay and the like. Keeps his entrepreneurial spirit going but without the stress of running a restaurant.

The old saying - "How do you become a millionaire? Be a billionaire and open a restaurant".

 

[Gaston]

Is this a footy discussion page or the script for an episode of Blue Heelers?

 

[Davo23]

The fact he's now been charged with a serious crime probably means I've got a better chance than what some random journo said months ago. I fully understand there is a difference between being charged and being convicted of a crime, and I have no inside connections to anyone anywhere with Hawthorn or the Police, I just suspect his time is now done with the club regardless of what happens next. If I'm wrong I'll happily cop it and own it.

But he's NOT been charged.

There are plenty of posts here for defamation lawyers with which to plan their next overseas holidays!

 

[Spursfan]

The fact he's now been charged with a serious crime probably means I've got a better chance than what some random journo said months ago. I fully understand there is a difference between being charged and being convicted of a crime, and I have no inside connections to anyone anywhere with Hawthorn or the Police, I just suspect his time is now done with the club regardless of what happens next. If I'm wrong I'll happily cop it and own it.

He's been arrested not charged as yet as far as I've read

 

[tige19]

Yeah, my mate was hands on in the business which he co-owned with his brothers. He grew up in hospitality so he thought he knew what he was getting into, but having to deal with all the shit that comes with owning a restaurant (including some fairly unstable head chefs) just got too much for him so he sold out (apparently at a tidy profit). The new owners changed the name, the look, the menu, etc of the restaurant and it went downhill immediately.

The only hospitality business I would consider is a tightly run, small/medium scale cafe. Set/basic menu (eliminates the need of a chef), small crew of staff in a high populous/developing area. I have to got to know the guy who owns the cafe about 50 metres from my place, he has 1 in Richmond, 1 in Fitzroy and one in Pascoe Vale, he said the biggest issue is staff. Hospitality is a tough one, plenty of money to be made ( they sell for huge amounts). Anyway a bit off track, but kudos to your mate.

 

[vanders]

Except that you don't get arrested for nothing.

Plenty of people get arrested and are found not guilty, that's if they even get charged with anything.

 

[Lord_Espos]

He's guilty and should be sacked!!!


..... is that how you do it?

 

[Davo23]

I might be wrong about him being charged, but I haven't defamed him. I'm not sure you understand what that word means. All I've stated is an opinion that he won't play for the Hawthorn football club again regardless of the outcome of this investigation.

It's not just you, its most of this thread.
You cannot assume anything until he actually is charged.

And convicted.

And I do know more about the law than you do.

 

[threesixpio]

Except that you don't get arrested for nothing.

Arrests are when an officer has a reasonable belief that a person may have committed an offence. Very far away from being found guilty beyond reasonable doubt that someone has committed the offence. Very very far way

 

[Hodginator]

I wonder if this ruins his chances of winning the Coleman this year.