It's throwing darts at that point of the draft we wouldn't have picked him.Idk dude the guy they got with the late pick we gave them just got a rising star nom lol
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It's still trade capital we gave away.. points value and shit that could have been used elsewhere.
A pick in the mid 20s I s a good chance of being decent
Just as likely to be a potato it's really not that drastic, what's drastic is never drafting first round defenders so you end up plugging holes with whatever you can trade wise.
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I suppose it would be pretty 'radical' to do something that Geelong tried and failed for 7 years, yeah. In the same way that it would be pretty radical to try DBJ in the ruck.
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The problem isn't so much the second rounder for Esava, it's the top 10 pick we traded for the two second rounders (and used the other one on another bloke who's also turning out to be a dud).
It feels pointless even discussing coaching for the obvious stale reason, but wouldn't you dumb it down for Esava just take the body and spoil spoil spoil we'll worry about intercept marking & attacking once you nut it down.
I get it's not quite that easy when they guard space more than the old trad one on one, but you could still dumb it down for a player like him until he builds confidence and cohesion with other defenders.
I get it's not quite that easy when they guard space more than the old trad one on one, but you could still dumb it down for a player like him until he builds confidence and cohesion with other defenders.
No. And in the bigger picture that's fantastic.
He can be a legitimately good contested mark though.. probably a better option up forward than Charlie Dickerson, although that's not saying much
If you combined them into one entity I think they'd still be half a brain short of a forward lol
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Have we not given DBJ a run in ruck? Someone get on the blower to Ken.
This was my big concern with Sav. Sure he is still young and relatively inexperienced and hasn’t had that many games as a forward, ruck or defender but if Geelong couldn’t do it, no one can.
Don't worry guys, Mr Chris Davies is responsible enough for take accountability for this.
That's what strong leadership is.
That's what strong leadership is.
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Would be nice if we could actually develop a KP defender. Ken’s coaching team hasn’t developed one Key defender in 12 ****ing years.
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Surely with the spotlight shon on this repeated error he'll learn from his mistakes. It's something that shouldn't be difficult to correct. I think I'm in the minority but I still think he can be handy for us. He's still adapting to our system and to playing as a defender. The problem is his confidence is either too low or too high. Too high and he takes on dumb risky kicks. Too low and he second guesses and is slow to react or does panicked dumb passes. We need him to find the Goldilocks point.
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I feel the same. His ability to get to a contest and spoil is very good, but he needs to learn when to go for a contested mark vs when to punch. He also needs ro be taught to take the safe option with the ball every time. That’s either a hand pass to a team mate running by or a long kick up the line. No more switches across goal.
I really don't think he's suited to defence. His disposal is too iffy and he doesn't have great decision making, those turnovers kill us time and time again. Play him up forward where it hurts us less and give him an opportunity to gain some confidence in his game. I think he'd offer more than Lord and Marshall at the moment.
We're not exactly light on for defenders either so to me it makes sense to push him forward and if we need an extra tall down back, fit someone like McKenzie or Burton back in the side when they recover from injury and gain some form in the SANFL.
We're not exactly light on for defenders either so to me it makes sense to push him forward and if we need an extra tall down back, fit someone like McKenzie or Burton back in the side when they recover from injury and gain some form in the SANFL.
Esava just needs to be coached.
He has all of the attributes but need to bring himself up to a decent level with the nature of defending and the game.
Really, most of his training sessions should be one on one in the tape room.
He has all of the attributes but need to bring himself up to a decent level with the nature of defending and the game.
Really, most of his training sessions should be one on one in the tape room.
I think you are right, he's a keep it simple stupid type I still have hope.
Definitely. He just needs to KISS.
We should never have drafted both BZT and Rat.
Pick ur target, and go and get him. We hedged our bets, and overpaid.
Same situation with the rucks.
Pick ur target, and go and get him. We hedged our bets, and overpaid.
Same situation with the rucks.
You can make an argument on the cost, however there's nothing wrong with ruck depth & an extra KPD with size.
People way too harsh on Rat.
We did not trade in a finished product. He has in fact been a better player for us than he was last year for Geelong.
We recruited him to stand monsters and to intercept mark not to be the distributor out the backline. This week he earns his keep.
I’d rather him on Curnow/McKay than Bergman or Burton.
We did not trade in a finished product. He has in fact been a better player for us than he was last year for Geelong.
We recruited him to stand monsters and to intercept mark not to be the distributor out the backline. This week he earns his keep.
I’d rather him on Curnow/McKay than Bergman or Burton.
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