What are some of the biggest pieces of revisionist history in the AFL?

[Bunk Moreland]

Dude.
The phrase "14 from the wing" means he was playing on the wing, not kicking them from there.

This seems a blatant case of false advertising and I would like a refund.

 

[Blue1980]

Literally every single 90's GF was an uncompetitive blowout and the acquisition of indigenous talent was still very limited. The average team had the mental fortitude of a pea, and a lot of the star goalkickers people so fondly talk about happened to be on dogshit teams no one wanted to watch, if that's not revisionism I don't know what is. 90's just became the new starting point for a lot of people as we aged up and everyone overlooks what sucked about it, everyone has a different golden era.

Besides the 80's I think the opposite, people are way more likely to wank about 90's footy compared to 80's footy where there are some pretty obvious flaws, it was mid and so were the early 00's that were basically the same. I totally get the argument because the rules enabled individual cases of more pleasing footy, it was the era before rule changes were normalised and it epitomised what we think of when it comes to football, but the overall talent pool went to another level by the time the Cats exploded, Bulldogs and St Kilda in 2008 could've won GF's in the 90's on pure talent, easily. People point to a few of our own uncompetitive GF's, but we were an absolute monster team and without such a strong competition we would've strolled to success before 2013 despite lacking elite options at FB and Ruck, not a problem for many modern teams.

Most 80s grand finals were blowouts too.

People wank so much over 89 because it was the only match still in the balance with 15 mins to go from about 1985-2000.

 

[Cleansweep17]

I’ve literally never heard this interpretation. So if for instance a ruckman takes a mark inside 50 and kicks a goal are you saying they aren’t kicking the goal as a ruckman but a forward?

Refer to my image in my previous post that shows where the wing is. Or you can google it.

It’s quite concerning that somebody else laughed at my post. They’d rather believe a fairytale than know where the wing is on the ground. Not surprising, humans beings have made up legends since the dawn of time. That’s all this is.

 

[Blue1980]

This seems a blatant case of false advertising and I would like a refund.

 

[Blue1980]

Refer to my image in my previous post that shows where the wing is. Or you can google it.

It’s quite concerning that somebody else laughed at my post. They’d rather believe a fairytale than know where the wing is on the ground. Not surprising humans beings have made up legends since the dawn of time.

I don’t think anyone anywhere believed Gary kicked 14 goals from 80 metres out.

 

[HairyO]

That Jobe Watson earned his Brownlow, and he deserves to have it returned.

Absolutely not.

I feel like history has forgotten that the most common knock against Watson for years was that he was talented but couldn't run out full games. That he was always gassed in the 4th quarters and looked like he was gasping for air. That lack of fitness was such a common complaint that it basically became a meme.

Then in the offseason before the 2012 season, the Essendon supplements program started, and all of a sudden Jobe Watson was fitter than he had ever been. It seemingly changed overnight. He doubled his career-high Brownlow votes in 2012, and earned his first All Australian nod. What a coincidence!

No, I'm sorry but the Essendon saga punishments were deserved, including Watson losing the Brownlow. History should never undo that.

This may be Essendon history, but everyone else knows that he lost the Brownlow because he cheated. It may not have been intentional, but it happened.

The fact that he still has it is 100% on Gil for not demanding it be returned.

 

[kool kangas]

Footy was better 10-15 years ago, or in the 80s. It wasn't. It was very good comparatively in the 90s though.

 

[Underarm]

By the same token, a bunch of Richmond club B&Fs were awarded via revisionism (including one of Jack Dyer's), the history about which was in turn correctly revised a few years ago. The stand named after Dyer being described as architecturally significant, rather than an eyesore, is also worth mentioning. Glad the Tigers have resisted sentimental hysteria on both counts.

There's alot of revisionist history regarding the name of the stand as well. Was the Dave Chassell stand before 1998. No one would give a shit if Richmond was knocking down the Dave Chassell stand.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Refer to my image in my previous post that shows where the wing is. Or you can google it.

It’s quite concerning that somebody else laughed at my post. They’d rather believe a fairytale than know where the wing is on the ground. Not surprising, humans beings have made up legends since the dawn of time. That’s all this is.

That’s because people are meaning playing from the wing not kicking goals from the actual wing.

 

[Iago]

Refer to my image in my previous post that shows where the wing is. Or you can google it.

It’s quite concerning that somebody else laughed at my post. They’d rather believe a fairytale than know where the wing is on the ground. Not surprising, humans beings have made up legends since the dawn of time. That’s all this is.

You also said 51m out was the wing and not the half forward flank yet your image clearly shows it as the half forward flank.

"you can kick it 51m on the boundary. It’s been done plenty of times. That is the wing." Post #63.

So, as I understand your point is that saying Gaz kicked 14 from the wing is erroneous because he did not in fact kick them 60 -90 out from goal. But the correct saying should be Gaz kicked 14 whilst playing as a wingman?

 

[Cleansweep17]

I don’t think anyone anywhere believed Gary kicked 14 goals from 80 metres out.

No, so why say “from the wing”

Just to spice it up guess.

And it’s not 80 it can be 51

 

[Cleansweep17]

That’s because people are meaning playing from the wing not kicking goals from the actual wing.

He switched mid game from wing to fwd

Dusty plays mid sometimes even has been named there pregame but when he goes forward and kicks goals we don’t say he kicked them from the midfield do we?

Same with defenders that may go forward and sneak a goal. They didn’t kick it from the backline even though the player played 99% gametime in the backline.

Like I said earlier I haven’t come across another player that people have done this exaggeration with. That’s because most people have common sense, except for Snr for some reason.

 

[Blue1980]

No, so why say “from the wing”

Just to spice it up guess.

And it’s not 80 it can be 51

Because he lined up on the wing. If Blake Acres kicks a couple of goals like he did in the finals last year, even if he scores goals in the goal square he still played on the wing.

That is what it means by 14 goals from a wing, you’ve taken it too literally.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Because he lined up on the wing. If Blake Acres kicks a couple of goals like he did in the finals last year, even if he scores goals in the goal square he still played on the wing.

That is what it means by 14 goals from a wing, you’ve taken it too literally.

Refer to my previous post about players that have kicked goals rotating out of their main position. Nobody says “kicked them from the backline, midfield, bench, sub, emergency” when these players have kicked them do they?

So why with Snr. It’s just to spice it up imo.

 

[Norwegian Blue]

That Michael Voss should have got the Norm Smith in 2002. Buckley was awesome that day and fully deserved the gong. Yes, Voss was incredible for the last ten minutes but he wasn't BOG.

 

[burge13]

'Frampton was great in the GF last year' has been said alot by media this season

Playing a defensive role on a FB and that FB having 16 touches to his 2 is insanity to claim he had even an ok game let alone good. May as well have played with 17

 

[Clark G]

That Hawks were underdogs v Freo in the 2013 GF

They were quite a pronounced favourite

Spot on. The media and fans went gaga over Freo’s pressure in the PF. But Hawthorn only lost three games that year and were the best team in the comp that year. Only a big choke would’ve cost Hawthorn and that was unlikely after what happened in 2012.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

He switched mid game from wing to fwd

Dusty plays mid sometimes even has been named there pregame but when he goes forward and kicks goals we don’t say he kicked them from the midfield do we?

Same with defenders that may go forward and sneak a goal. They didn’t kick it from the backline even though the player played 99% gametime in the backline.

Like I said earlier I haven’t come across another player that people have done this exaggeration with. That’s because most people have common sense, except for Snr for some reason.

Fair enough if he actually switched and played forward. I wasn’t at the ground so I wouldn’t know. You can play wing and push deep forward but.

I do hate when commentators talk about goal kicking mids when most of their goals are kicked playing as a forward.

 

[Taper]

That Ken Hinkley is a good coach, that Port has played finals in just about year that he's coached.

That he's selfless, that he's this loveable Kenny bloke.

When Port lose its always the players fault. That the inaccuracy of the team is a reflection on the players and not his game plan.

That supporters' expectations are unreasonable and based on relative dominance in the SANFL.

Ken Hinkley is a great coach because Port don't bottom out, with their lowest finish under Hinkley being 11th in 2022.
Higher win percentage than the likes of Mark Williams, Alastair Clarkson and Damien Hardwick as well.

 

[The 747]

Sorry Facebook videos are autoblocked by my device.

 

[The 747]

Literally every single 90's GF was an uncompetitive blowout and the acquisition of indigenous talent was still very limited. The average team had the mental fortitude of a pea, and a lot of the star goalkickers people so fondly talk about happened to be on dogshit teams no one wanted to watch, if that's not revisionism I don't know what is. 90's just became the new starting point for a lot of people as we aged up and everyone overlooks what sucked about it, everyone has a different golden era.

Besides the 80's I think the opposite, people are way more likely to wank about 90's footy compared to 80's footy where there are some pretty obvious flaws, it was mid and so were the early 00's that were basically the same. I totally get the argument because the rules enabled individual cases of more pleasing footy, it was the era before rule changes were normalised and it epitomised what we think of when it comes to football, but the overall talent pool went to another level by the time the Cats exploded, Bulldogs and St Kilda in 2008 could've won GF's in the 90's on pure talent, easily. People point to a few of our own uncompetitive GF's, but we were an absolute monster team and without such a strong competition we would've strolled to success before 2013 despite lacking elite options at FB and Ruck, not a problem for many modern teams.

If you don't like my opinion that's fine but stop ranting.

 

[GWT6]

Sorry Facebook videos are autoblocked by my device.

Thanks for letting everyone know, but maybe get your mum to change the parental controls instead of posting it here.

 

[Clark G]

Correct. Mercuri injured and others would’ve missed.

I doubt we would’ve beat Noof.

You might be thinking of 1996? Mercuri was a late withdrawal for the PF against Sydney and several others, including Matthew Lloyd, got injured during the game.

 

[Im New]

That Jobe Watson earned his Brownlow, and he deserves to have it returned.

Absolutely not.

I feel like history has forgotten that the most common knock against Watson for years was that he was talented but couldn't run out full games. That he was always gassed in the 4th quarters and looked like he was gasping for air. That lack of fitness was such a common complaint that it basically became a meme.

Then in the offseason before the 2012 season, the Essendon supplements program started, and all of a sudden Jobe Watson was fitter than he had ever been. It seemingly changed overnight. He doubled his career-high Brownlow votes in 2012, and earned his first All Australian nod. What a coincidence!

No, I'm sorry but the Essendon saga punishments were deserved, including Watson losing the Brownlow. History shoulThat Jobe Watson earned his Brownlow, and he deserves to have it returned.

Absolutely not.

I feel like history has forgotten that the most common knock against Watson for years was that he was talented but couldn't run out full games. That he was always gassed in the 4th quarters and looked like he was gasping for air. That lack of fitness was such a common complaint that it basically became a meme.

Then in the offseason before the 2012 season, the Essendon supplements program started, and all of a sudden Jobe Watson was fitter than he had ever been. It seemingly changed overnight. He doubled his career-high Brownlow votes in 2012, and earned his first All Australian nod. What a coincidence!

No, I'm sorry but the Essendon saga punishments were deserved, including Watson losing the Brownlow. History should never undo that.

See I reckon that’s a bit revisionist. Check his 2011 season, the year before Dank. He was leading the Brownlow after 7 rounds on 11 votes. Then in the eighth game he went and pulled his hamstring, in the end that cost him six weeks out and he struggled to regain full strength in the muscle. 2012 was a continuation of that 2011 form, without the injury. Average votes per game until his injury in 2011 was 1.5, superior to the 1.36 he achieved in 2012. He was clearly on an upwards trajectory, having improved his fitness and disposal.

 

[The 747]

Thanks for letting everyone know, but maybe get your mum to change the parental controls instead of posting it here.

Awesome, was responding to some who isn't you.