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What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 2
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Perhaps.
However, when it comes to our current predicament, there's a little more than 'no underlying evidence and rationale' to his words.
Thanks " Drunken Damo accidentally posting on our forum extremely late on a Saturday night "
Everything and anything that you publish about our Club is automatically disregarded by anyone and everyone due to your preciousness after Bevo made you do wee wees in your girly knickers.
If you are not actually Damian Barrett then I apologize...
Regardless, we are not in some contrived or imagined predicament. We are building nicely and will continue to do so.
Unlike Damian Barrett's career as a "journalist" which will fizzle out within the next year or two.
The general public is so much smarter than the media give them credit for. The days of people like Barrett, Browne, McClure and the like are severely numbered...
There is no crisis, no discontent, no angst at the Dogs. Just a conundrum of how to best trade and draft in the best way to improve ourselves for 2019. Just like 17 other football Clubs.
Shock, Horror!!
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When do they release odds for the Coleman Medal?
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Sounds like Campbell will be staying on the list
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DOGS DON’T NEED A RUCKMAN, SAYS POWER
October 16, 2018 9:36 am
THE Western Bulldogs aren’t in the market for a ruckman during the AFL trade period, according to their general manager of list and recruiting Sam Power.
With premiership ruckman Jordan Roughead likely to move to Collingwood, Power says youngster Tim English is ready to take the next step.
“We’ve got really high hopes for Tim English. Tim’s only just completed his second season, so we have to be a bit patient with him,” Power said on RSN927’s The Breakfast Club on Tuesday.
“We think Tim will be a top-line ruckman in the future. We’ve got confidence that he’ll take his game to a new level next year.
“Jackson Trengove can play in the ruck but also play as a key back, and Tom Boyd’s demonstrated at different times that he can impact in the ruck. And we’ve got Tom Campbell on the list as well.”
The Bulldogs on Monday signed fringe Richmond player Sam Lloyd, sending pick 64 to the Tigers in return.
“It’s good to have Sam Lloyd on board; he’ll play a really important role for us, both up forward and also in the midfield,” Power said.
“For us, it’s definitely a need, our forward half of the ground. We’ve had a little bit of change in the last few years with Jake Stringer going out and Stewart Crameri as well, and then some of our more ageing players in Tory Dickson and Liam Picken up there have had injury-interrupted years in 2018. It was an area of the ground that we identified we needed to bring someone in.”
Power said midfielder Tom Liberatore will remain a Dog, while the club is standing their ground regarding defender Marcus Adams.
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"I guess Tom Campbell is picked by default"
WOO HOO! THE TWO SWEETEST WORDS IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE, DEFAULT DEFAULT DEFAULT
perfect scenario from my POV - we make it to the finals, our big man stocks are low, Tom Campbell must come in for his first game of the season in the grannie - and stars, we win off his boot with a long bomb from 60m out after the siren.
He wins the norm, plods to the podium to take his medal and says "**** you bev!"
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Which in fairness, is exactly how it should be.
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Unfortunately the is no underlying evidence or rationale to your retort, I really wish there was though.
The mass exodus, disgraceful treatment of certain indivdauals and our spectacular decent down the ladder kinda contradicts your arguement completely.
Thanks for you passionate post, however, Peter.
It is you, isn't it Peter?
Yes Damo, it's me, Peter
Mass exodus is a rather emotive term wouldn't you think? A couple of retirees due to injury and age. A couple traded out for either being dicks or a major drop in application. It's called "List Management". Its not like all our best players are walking out, that would be The Gold Coast Suns. Yeah?
Our descent is alarming but scratch beneath the surface and you will see that there are a few factors at play there. Player availability being the first - we have had a cursed run with injuries for two years. Couple that with a clique of players not playing to their maximum and the results are apparent. The second part helps explain some of our list management decisions.
As I said, we are building nicely. Kids growing into men. Age profile is a little on the young side admittedly but time is changing that. We will surprise plenty next year but I'm sure that it won't be enough for some.
Thanks for your passionate defense of yet another lazy, ho-hum, alarmist pile of sewage spewed out in yet another Sliding Doors, pot-shotting the Club from a bloke with less avenues to our inside word than any other excuse for a "journalist".
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Love that prognathous physiognomy. BTC could have been the model for the Chesty Bond singlet ads.perfect scenario from my POV - we make it to the finals, our big man stocks are low, Tom Campbell must come in for his first game of the season in the grannie - and stars, we win off his boot with a long bomb from 60m out after the siren.
He wins the norm, plods to the podium to take his medal and says "**** you bev!"
after the game, Roughie and Tom comapre medals - Roughie is impressed by the norm smith medal
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Mass exodus hahaha. We kick out a known gambling addict and adulterer who was notoriously lazy and who hadnt fired a shot in two years, we had a bunch of injury riddled B-graders retire and we let the cats overpay for Dahlhaus who was no longer a required player. If that consitutes an exodus in your mind then I don't think that word means what you think it means. Oh wait, I forgot we might be losing Premiership ruckman Jordan Roughead and that jacked bloke who manages a few games a season. Oh and JJ to Freo.
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The only player who could be called making an “exodus” is Adams, and he seems to be a strange guy.
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Not sure if it's been posted anywhere else...
Guess we will be the Sunday arvo regulars again nowNot sure if it's been posted anywhere else...
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Spooners versus Losers on Thursday night.
Fremantle and the Suns should count themselves lucky they could be fitted in
From the Foxs Sports website (apologies don't know how to do links - I'm a lemming, I know). Good omen for finishing 13th this year.
AFL fixture 2019: How weighted fixture helped Collingwood, North Melbourne in 2018 and who it will impact most in 2019
THE AFL premiership won’t be decided later this month, but we will learn major clues as to who will contend for it.
For two straight seasons the team that finished 13th the previous year has gone on to make the Grand Final - first Richmond, and then Collingwood.
We’re not saying the Western Bulldogs are guaranteed to be playing off in the flag decider in 2019. But that unique statistical quirk does underline the importance of the weighted fixture.
So what is the weighted fixture exactly, and what impact does it have?
WHAT IS THE WEIGHTED FIXTURE?
In an attempt to balance the draw, teams are given specific ‘double-up’ match-ups based on where they finish on the ladder. Every team plays each other once in the AFL season and then has to play five more games.
Teams that finish in the top six must play two other top six opponents - this is the same within each bracket, including the middle six and bottom six - and at the extremes, teams in the top six only get one ‘double-up’ game against a bottom six side.
To put it simply, if you’re bad, you play other bad teams. If you’re good, you play other good teams.
In 2018, that saw the Magpies (13th in 2017) and North Melbourne (15th in 2017) take advantage - with Collingwood being flagged as a potential bounce-back candidate by Foxfooty.com.au this time last year.
HOW DID THE WEIGHTED FIXTURE IMPACT SEASON 2018?
AFL stat-trackers Champion Data measured Collingwood’s fixture as the easiest in 2018 while the Kangaroos’ ranked as the second-easiest.
North Melbourne’s double-up opponents - Brisbane, Gold Coast, St Kilda, Sydney and the Western Bulldogs - finished with an average of 7.1 wins for the season, the clear fewest in the AFL.
Collingwood’s double-up opponents had an average of nine wins in season 2018 (Richmond, Essendon, Fremantle, Carlton and Brisbane), while Melbourne also took advantage of a kind draw with their double-up opponents averaging 8.3 wins (Adelaide, Geelong, Gold Coast, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs).
At the other end of the spectrum, Fremantle battled the hardest draw as measured by Champion Data despite being a bottom six team. Their double-up group of West Coast, Port Adelaide, Essendon, Collingwood and Carlton averaged 11.4 wins.
St Kilda was measured as having the fifth-hardest draw but were demolished by their double-up opponents, winning just once against a group that averaged 14.5 wins - GWS, Hawthorn, Melbourne, North Melbourne and Richmond.
Some of this is random, of course; the Demons, who finished in the middle six bracket in 2017, took advantage of Adelaide slipping from Grand Finalists to missing the eight, as well as St Kilda dropping from top eight contenders to the bottom four.
But much of it is intended - and it works overall.
On average, bottom six teams from 2017 faced a group of double-up opponents that averaged 9.67 wins in season 2018. Middle six teams were somewhat harder with an average of 11.42 wins, while the top six teams faced the toughest groups, averaging 11.92 wins.
This is the intention of the weighted fixture in action - bad teams having an easier draw, and top teams having a harder one.
SO WHO WILL BE HELPED AND HINDERED IN SEASON 2019?
Having finished in the top six in 2018, Collingwood will clearly face a much more difficult line-up of double-up opponents in 2019.
The AFL usually tries to protect rivalries through the double-ups, so we would expect them to face Essendon (middle six) and Carlton (their likely only bottom six opponent) twice, plus the Grand Final rematch often goes in there twice, so throw in West Coast (top six).
Other obvious candidates would include Melbourne (top six), Richmond (top six) and Geelong (middle six).
It’s just an example, but quite clearly a fixture that exchanges second games against Fremantle and Brisbane for second games against West Coast and Melbourne would be more difficult. If the Pies had copped that in 2018 and instead lost those games, they would have finished eighth after the home and away season rather than third.
We’re not saying the Magpies weren’t a good team - they were arguably Dom Sheed missing a tough set shot away from a flag - but this is just an example of how fine the margins can be.
North Melbourne will also find themselves with a more difficult draw while risers from the middle section to the top six, Melbourne and Hawthorn, can too expect a tougher run.
The Western Bulldogs would have a good chance of improving on their eight-win 2018 season if they are handed double-up match-ups against three members of the bottom six, as usually happens with the bottom six bracket. The same goes for big trade period movers Fremantle.
The Dockers weren’t helped by the fact that two of their 2018 double-up opponents were the season’s two biggest movers (West Coast and Collingwood), and the Eagles will again be on the docket twice in 2019.
But you’d expect Jesse Hogan, Rory Lobb and the team to also get double-up games against teams like Carlton, St Kilda and Brisbane (for the Lachie Neale Cup, of course), which may make things easier.
St Kilda is also likely to have a kinder run, having played in Perth twice for the last two seasons and as mentioned above, having a ridiculously strong group of double-ups in 2018.
We will have to wait and see until later this month for the actual fixture to see who is truly advantaged and disadvantaged.
And then for the actual season for it all to be turned on its head.
AFL fixture 2019: How weighted fixture helped Collingwood, North Melbourne in 2018 and who it will impact most in 2019
THE AFL premiership won’t be decided later this month, but we will learn major clues as to who will contend for it.
For two straight seasons the team that finished 13th the previous year has gone on to make the Grand Final - first Richmond, and then Collingwood.
We’re not saying the Western Bulldogs are guaranteed to be playing off in the flag decider in 2019. But that unique statistical quirk does underline the importance of the weighted fixture.
So what is the weighted fixture exactly, and what impact does it have?
WHAT IS THE WEIGHTED FIXTURE?
In an attempt to balance the draw, teams are given specific ‘double-up’ match-ups based on where they finish on the ladder. Every team plays each other once in the AFL season and then has to play five more games.
Teams that finish in the top six must play two other top six opponents - this is the same within each bracket, including the middle six and bottom six - and at the extremes, teams in the top six only get one ‘double-up’ game against a bottom six side.
To put it simply, if you’re bad, you play other bad teams. If you’re good, you play other good teams.
In 2018, that saw the Magpies (13th in 2017) and North Melbourne (15th in 2017) take advantage - with Collingwood being flagged as a potential bounce-back candidate by Foxfooty.com.au this time last year.
HOW DID THE WEIGHTED FIXTURE IMPACT SEASON 2018?
AFL stat-trackers Champion Data measured Collingwood’s fixture as the easiest in 2018 while the Kangaroos’ ranked as the second-easiest.
North Melbourne’s double-up opponents - Brisbane, Gold Coast, St Kilda, Sydney and the Western Bulldogs - finished with an average of 7.1 wins for the season, the clear fewest in the AFL.
Collingwood’s double-up opponents had an average of nine wins in season 2018 (Richmond, Essendon, Fremantle, Carlton and Brisbane), while Melbourne also took advantage of a kind draw with their double-up opponents averaging 8.3 wins (Adelaide, Geelong, Gold Coast, St Kilda, Western Bulldogs).
At the other end of the spectrum, Fremantle battled the hardest draw as measured by Champion Data despite being a bottom six team. Their double-up group of West Coast, Port Adelaide, Essendon, Collingwood and Carlton averaged 11.4 wins.
St Kilda was measured as having the fifth-hardest draw but were demolished by their double-up opponents, winning just once against a group that averaged 14.5 wins - GWS, Hawthorn, Melbourne, North Melbourne and Richmond.
Some of this is random, of course; the Demons, who finished in the middle six bracket in 2017, took advantage of Adelaide slipping from Grand Finalists to missing the eight, as well as St Kilda dropping from top eight contenders to the bottom four.
But much of it is intended - and it works overall.
On average, bottom six teams from 2017 faced a group of double-up opponents that averaged 9.67 wins in season 2018. Middle six teams were somewhat harder with an average of 11.42 wins, while the top six teams faced the toughest groups, averaging 11.92 wins.
This is the intention of the weighted fixture in action - bad teams having an easier draw, and top teams having a harder one.
SO WHO WILL BE HELPED AND HINDERED IN SEASON 2019?
Having finished in the top six in 2018, Collingwood will clearly face a much more difficult line-up of double-up opponents in 2019.
The AFL usually tries to protect rivalries through the double-ups, so we would expect them to face Essendon (middle six) and Carlton (their likely only bottom six opponent) twice, plus the Grand Final rematch often goes in there twice, so throw in West Coast (top six).
Other obvious candidates would include Melbourne (top six), Richmond (top six) and Geelong (middle six).
It’s just an example, but quite clearly a fixture that exchanges second games against Fremantle and Brisbane for second games against West Coast and Melbourne would be more difficult. If the Pies had copped that in 2018 and instead lost those games, they would have finished eighth after the home and away season rather than third.
We’re not saying the Magpies weren’t a good team - they were arguably Dom Sheed missing a tough set shot away from a flag - but this is just an example of how fine the margins can be.
North Melbourne will also find themselves with a more difficult draw while risers from the middle section to the top six, Melbourne and Hawthorn, can too expect a tougher run.
The Western Bulldogs would have a good chance of improving on their eight-win 2018 season if they are handed double-up match-ups against three members of the bottom six, as usually happens with the bottom six bracket. The same goes for big trade period movers Fremantle.
The Dockers weren’t helped by the fact that two of their 2018 double-up opponents were the season’s two biggest movers (West Coast and Collingwood), and the Eagles will again be on the docket twice in 2019.
But you’d expect Jesse Hogan, Rory Lobb and the team to also get double-up games against teams like Carlton, St Kilda and Brisbane (for the Lachie Neale Cup, of course), which may make things easier.
St Kilda is also likely to have a kinder run, having played in Perth twice for the last two seasons and as mentioned above, having a ridiculously strong group of double-ups in 2018.
We will have to wait and see until later this month for the actual fixture to see who is truly advantaged and disadvantaged.
And then for the actual season for it all to be turned on its head.
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“New Brisbane utility Marcus Adams also fronted the media on Friday after his trade from the Western Bulldogs.
The injury-plagued defender said he wanted a fresh start and he looked at several clubs.
Adams said Brisbane told him he will have different opportunities and he was looking forward to not playing as "the primary defender in the dungeon".”
“New Brisbane utility Marcus Adams also fronted the media on Friday after his trade from the Western Bulldogs.
The injury-plagued defender said he wanted a fresh start and he looked at several clubs.
Adams said Brisbane told him he will have different opportunities and he was looking forward to not playing as "the primary defender in the dungeon".”
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Has quite a long post on Instagram thanking everyone at the club.
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Hopefully our docs got a mention.
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Yes they did. I also thought he mentioned looking forward to not having to be a lock-down defender, but can't find that now. It will be interesting to see where Brisbane play him.
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In the rehab group?
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Anyone else hear the Tom Browne news about a high-profile AFL figure with a social media video doing the rounds (depicting them snorting a white substance). Almost started chanting in my head: "Don't be Libba, don't be Libba..."
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