What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 4

[Sentinel]

TBH I'm surprised this has come up this week (first by Montagna and then plagiarised by Barrett because his ability is limited to his single sentence Sliding Doors comment and suggestions about bringing the Showdown to the MCG).

Usually it would be expected to drop days before a big final or something for maximum impact, not before a game against the Wooden Spoon favourites. Guess it'll be a new season long agenda, and at least takes some gloss off the positivity of a good win against Freo and Bont's 200th.

The fact none of them are even clear cut throws makes it even funnier.

 

[Iamspock]

Watch the free kicks against us for 'throwing' be more than ever this week...

 

[ScragCity]

Here's a radical idea. Why not just get rid of handball altogether? Let anyone throw it. One hand, two hands, hand-offs, whatever. I honestly can't think of any really good reason why players should have to handball it, but I'm happy to be enlightened.

I'm serious that this idea should at least be explored. I know all the traditionalists will come shouting and clamouring to say it will totally alter the game but think about how good, exciting and fast-moving the game could become. Think about the sort of throws you could do (like a 50m quarterback throw). Think also about how clearances and congested play will be reduced. Think about how creative players can become without the need to handball. Think about how simpler the umpiring would become (currently one of the hardest games in the world to umpire I reckon).

And think about how pricks like those on Footy Classified will have to think up totally new hatchet jobs to get their vengeance on Bevo for being a grumpy old non-compliant bastard and rightfully telling the muckrakers to go f*ck themselves.

It's a slippery slope DW. If you make throwing legal then what will it be next? Should we make it legal for players to take a dump on the field? Do we make it legal for players to marry their pet goldfish?

 

[BulldogMuscle]

It's a slippery slope DW. If you make throwing legal then what will it be next? Should we make it legal for players to take a dump on the field?

I mean, they're already pissing in the group huddles, why not allow for a number 2?
Dedicated TP runner and poop-scooper job incoming.

 

[dogwatch]

It's a slippery slope DW. If you make throwing legal then what will it be next? Should we make it legal for players to take a dump on the field? Do we make it legal for players to marry their pet goldfish?

Happy to make it legal to marry their pet goldfish, as long as it's during a stoppage in play.

I'm just worried about the Father Son program. For a start there might be some same-sex goldfish (NTTAWWT but it kind of puts a dampener on the WB F/S program). But assuming they do have some spawn we would of course expect them to be great in the wet ... but could they remember the coach's instructions from just 30 seconds ago?



Come to think of it maybe that's not such a bad idea.

I look forward to them joining the ranks of past luminaries such as Harry Dolphin, Frank Finn, Les Herring, Farren Ray, Ian Salmon, Wayde Skipper and Scott Taylor.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

AFLMedia are a human centipede.

A flat circle of shit in. Shit out.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Happy to make it legal to marry their pet goldfish, as long as it's during a stoppage in play.

I'm just worried about the Father Son program. For a start there might be some same-sex goldfish (NTTAWWT but it kind of puts a dampener on the WB F/S program). But assuming they do have some spawn we would of course expect them to be great in the wet ... but could they remember the coach's instructions from just 30 seconds ago?



Come to think of it maybe that's not such a bad idea.

I look forward to them joining the ranks of past luminaries such as Harry Dolphin, Frank Finn, Les Herring, Farren Ray, Ian Salmon, Wayde Skipper and Scott Taylor.

I've often wondered if such an apparent reasoned poster such as yourself had a dark side.

Now I know.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Watch the free kicks against us for 'throwing' be more than ever this week...

How many do we usually get, and how many to do other teams get Oliver Gigacz ?

 

[dogwatch]

I've often wondered if such an apparent reasoned poster such as yourself had a dark side.

Now I know.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

It’s quite breathtaking when every team does it but it’s us being highlighted. Bevo will say, Watch your handballs, boys. Stand by for BT or Donkeyshaw to pepper the commentary with “how did he dispose of that?” “I saw at least three throws in that chain of handballs” and other pointed remarks. Umpires to hand out a couple of throwing frees and everyone will feel justified.

Also, it's incredible how people don't actually understand the rules.

If:

• There was no or minimal prior opportunity when the tackle came
• The player makes an immediate attempt to dispose of it and
• The attempt to dispose legally was genuine, it's just that the presence of the tackle meant that the actual physical execution of the disposal wasn't possible

It's technically a throw, but not against the rules.

Obviously sometimes they should call throw, because it's clear that a player is throwing the ball when they could make more of an effort to make disposal more legal, in order to make the pass to the teammate quicker and more accurate.

But other times (and Libba is very good at this), you're asking the mentality of the player to be interpreted by umpires - essentially asking them to be mind readers. And while it's clear on certain angles on slow mo replays that a player threw and indented to throw, it's easy to see how umpires don't want to guess in real time from their positions.

So yeah, sometimes, throws can actually be legal depending on the timing of the tackle after possession, and the immediacy and intent of the player to handball. That's actually the rules of the AFL, that people don't seem to understand. And with us being a slick handball team, it seems we throw more, as other teams have an emphasis on breaking tackles, disposing before the tackle comes, etc. Meaning they seem to "throw" less.

 

[dogwatch]

Also, it's incredible how people don't actually understand the rules.

If:

• There was no or minimal prior opportunity when the tackle came
• The player makes an immediate attempt to dispose of it and
• The attempt to dispose legally was genuine, it's just that the presence of the tackle meant that the actual physical execution of the disposal wasn't possible

It's technically a throw, but not against the rules.

Obviously sometimes they should call throw, because it's clear that a player is throwing the ball when they could make more of an effort to make disposal more legal, in order to make the pass to the teammate quicker and more accurate.

But other times (and Libba is very good at this), you're asking the mentality of the player to be interpreted by umpires - essentially asking them to be mind readers. And while it's clear on certain angles on slow mo replays that a player threw and indented to throw, it's easy to see how umpires don't want to guess in real time from their positions.

So yeah, sometimes, throws can actually be legal depending on the timing of the tackle after possession, and the immediacy and intent of the player to handball. That's actually the rules of the AFL, that people don't seem to understand. And with us being a slick handball team, it seems we throw more, as other teams have an emphasis on breaking tackles, disposing before the tackle comes, etc. Meaning they seem to "throw" less.

Demonstrates how hard it is to umpire. Need to keep the rules simple.

 

[doggies ftw]

Also, it's incredible how people don't actually understand the rules.

If:

• There was no or minimal prior opportunity when the tackle came
• The player makes an immediate attempt to dispose of it and
• The attempt to dispose legally was genuine, it's just that the presence of the tackle meant that the actual physical execution of the disposal wasn't possible

It's technically a throw, but not against the rules.

Obviously sometimes they should call throw, because it's clear that a player is throwing the ball when they could make more of an effort to make disposal more legal, in order to make the pass to the teammate quicker and more accurate.

But other times (and Libba is very good at this), you're asking the mentality of the player to be interpreted by umpires - essentially asking them to be mind readers. And while it's clear on certain angles on slow mo replays that a player threw and indented to throw, it's easy to see how umpires don't want to guess in real time from their positions.

So yeah, sometimes, throws can actually be legal depending on the timing of the tackle after possession, and the immediacy and intent of the player to handball. That's actually the rules of the AFL, that people don't seem to understand. And with us being a slick handball team, it seems we throw more, as other teams have an emphasis on breaking tackles, disposing before the tackle comes, etc. Meaning they seem to "throw" less.

It’s a bit of a grey area isn’t it, by the letter of the law (ie not the interpretation we all use) do you have to be tackled to get pinged incorrect disposal, is incorrect disposal & holding the ball the same thing? It’s amazing that I don’t know these things about a sport I’ve been watching since the day I was born. But shows how hard it is to umpire,

Is a throw and incorrect disposal the same rule? Does that mean in reality if you drop the ball when not tackled should it be considered a free against too? I guess the interpretation for the umps is whether it’s a throw or a fumble, but technically is there a difference? What if I fumble the ball into the hands of my teammates, now it’s a throw?

Tough sport to get your head around

 

[doggiesin08]

Has anywhere highlighted how bad the Liam
Jones 50m penalty was.

Said in the match thread but if he was on or behind the mark when he stood up then the Freo player (who was closer to Freo’s goal) was ahead of the mark which isn’t allowed.

If Jones was ahead of the mark when he got up then he has to be allowed to move back on to the mark … and in fact the umpire should have been directing him to do so.

I just don’t see any interpretation where that’s a 50m penalty.

 

[dogwatch]

Has anywhere highlighted how bad the Liam
Jones 50m penalty was.

Said in the match thread but if he was on or behind the mark when he stood up then the Freo player (who was closer to Freo’s goal) was ahead of the mark which isn’t allowed.

If Jones was ahead of the mark when he got up then he has to be allowed to move back on to the mark … and in fact the umpire should have been directing him to do so.

I just don’t see any interpretation where that’s a 50m penalty.

Lol I’m sure Footy Ossified would love to pick up that story.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Seriously, why doesn’t the club take some legal action against them. It is seriously bullying, the amount of garbage that constantly streams from Wilson, Barrett and co‘s mouth. If the Royals can sue Murdoch, why can’t Gordon act on behalf of the club and make a libel suit against Purple for instance, who is well known to have an agenda against Bevo and his employer. One club does it, they would all do it.

Well, if we cut to the chase, Barrett and co are accusing the club of cheating, so that's defaming the club I would have thought.

 

[ScragCity]

So are we adding defamation law to our repertoire of Bigfooty expertise now?

 

[dogwatch]

So are we adding defamation law to our repertoire of Bigfooty expertise now?

Why not? No shortage of first hand experience.

 

[RedWhite&Blue]

It's a slippery slope DW. If you make throwing legal then what will it be next? Should we make it legal for players to take a dump on the field? Do we make it legal for players to marry their pet goldfish?

Have you got a pic of the fish?

 

[Freshwater]

Well, if we cut to the chase, Barrett and co are accusing the club of cheating, so that's defaming the club I would have thought.

Not only that, he is still trying to delegitimise the 2016 flag, which is pathetic and childish and to do so with his platform on national television. I’ve watched the 2016 Grand Final about 15 times and I wouldn’t enjoy if we ‘cheated’. They were all handballs 100%.

 

[NBates]

Is there a champion player (probably best in league) in the AFL having a milestone game this week?

 

[_Cerberus_]

Is there a champion player (probably best in league) in the AFL having a milestone game this week?

Have not heard of a single mention outside of any WB club related posts unfortunately.

 

[NBates]

Have not heard of a single mention outside of any WB club related posts unfortunately.

You know, if this was Dustin Martin or Dangerflog or anyone else the media would be talking about it the whole week before. Starting the week with at least getting a mention, then ramping it up as the week goes along. It's Friday. The game is tomorrow. All I'm hearing is we have questionable handball skills and

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Not only that, he is still trying to delegitimise the 2016 flag, which is pathetic and childish and to do so with his platform on national television. I’ve watched the 2016 Grand Final about 15 times and I wouldn’t enjoy if we ‘cheated’. They were all handballs 100%.

No, that was all the frees we GOT that were unfair. Plus all the frees Sydney didn’t get. They were the difference between a team that played to win and that other useless lot of plodders. Sydney should have won, dammit!

 

[GetDimmaBack]

No, that was all the frees we GOT that were unfair. Plus all the frees Sydney didn’t get. They were the difference between a team that played to win and that other useless lot of plodders. Sydney should have won, dammit!

Surely it's time we apologised to the whole competition and gave the flag back.

In a world full of Joeys, Purples and Caros, it's the only honourable thing to do

 

[dogwatch]

Surely it's time we apologised to the whole competition and gave the flag back.

In a world full of Joeys, Purples and Caros, it's the only honourable thing to do

Yes it is. Right after Meltank hand back theirs.