What would a Dutton Liberal leadership mean for the Liberals and the country?

[Ghost Patrol]

If people are wetting their pants about the dangers of nuclear being nearby despite all the real world evidence showing it’s overwhelmingly safe, then they can always move.

Most Australians aren’t that stupid though.

You could stop whining and just move to a nuclear country.

 

[MPMonkeys]

There is no policy. There is a press release.

Are you suggesting that he should not have issued a press release and just snuck it through on the quiet?
Seriously.

 

[MPMonkeys]

You could stop whining and just move to a nuclear country.

Which would be just about every country in the Western world.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Which would be just about every country in the Western world.

Ok. I'll chip in for your uber ride to the airport.

Happy for a non whining immigrant to take your place here.

 

[QuietB]

Ok. I'll chip in for your uber ride to the airport.

And I'll chip in for a MAGA hat

 

[nut]

Either way, one half of this debate clearly demonstrates the political risk Peter Dutton is taking by advocating a policy so vulnerable to an effective scare campaign.

You may call it a scare campaign … did they rebuild a nuclear plant at Fukushima?

 

[Demons09]

If people are wetting their pants about the dangers of nuclear being nearby despite all the real world evidence showing it’s overwhelmingly safe, then they can always move.

Most Australians aren’t that stupid though.

There’s a few that vote for Bandt though.

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

They were in power for nine years?

Why now?

 

[MPMonkeys]

Ok. I'll chip in for your uber ride to the airport.

Happy for a non whining immigrant to take your place here.

Who is whining?
Seems there are a lot of bedwetters scared to death of nuclear power. All whining about issues as if they are still stuck in 1960.

I'm not worried at all. Bring it on

 

[MPMonkeys]

They were in power for nine years?

Why now?

Because the folly of renewables is impacting Australians first hand and this is one way of mitigating those impacts during the transition period.

 

[CM86]

Who is whining?
Seems there are a lot of bedwetters scared to death of nuclear power. All whining about issues as if they are still stuck in 1960.

I'm not worried at all. Bring it on

BOO!!

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Who is whining?
Seems there are a lot of bedwetters scared to death of nuclear power. All whining about issues as if they are still stuck in 1960.

I'm not worried at all. Bring it on

Why do you conservative types keep saying "do it my way or move to a different country"

When you could just move to a different country that already does it your way.

Why do you keep throwing out such a lame argument?

 

[Engimal v3]

If people are wetting their pants about the dangers of nuclear being nearby despite all the real world evidence showing it’s overwhelmingly safe, then they can always move.

Most Australians aren’t that stupid though.

I don't have concerns around nuclear, I have concerns around the LNPs motivation for proposing it with absolutely no plan - and their history of ****ing everything up perfectly doesn't give me a lot of relief from those concerns.

 

[Chief]

Are you suggesting that he should not have issued a press release and just snuck it through on the quiet?
Seriously.

Maybe have some sort of real plans that last more then 12 hours before sinking without a trace.

 

[CM86]

On one hand we have the majority of Australia, scientists, business leaders etc supporting renewable and opposing nuclear in Australia.
Renewables being an industry that already exists in Australia.


On the other hand we have Dutton, Gina, some of the Coalition, and Dutton fanbois supporting an alleged policy about nuclear, and demanding the dangerous evil renewables be stopped.

In fact... Renewables are so preferred, the Nationals want to put a cap on investing in them...
And we have never had a nuclear power industry.

Hard to work out which makes more sense.
And I do worry about the whales!!!

 

[nut]

Hell, there is even one in Los Angeles.

and they are shutting it down with no plans for another one… WHY?

 

[CM86]

Wind turbines being highly sensitive and difficult to replicate, and notoriously liable to catastrophic failure, giving millions of people cancer over the following decades.

The disconnect is so ridiculous.

People being apprehensive around catastrophic failure of nuclear power plants is just silly bedwetting.

But the insane rhetoric around the danger to birds, whales, land etc due to renewables is just good honest discussion that demands answers!

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

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You may call it a scare campaign … did they rebuild a nuclear plant at Fukushima?

They just decommissioned it the lot. Units 1-4 were formally shutdown 19th May 2011. Unit 5 and 6 were shutdown 17th December 2013.

1. It didn't go 'Boom' - you've been watching too much television
2. Impacts on people were minor
3. It happened almost 15 years ago.
4. There are currently over 400 nuclear power plants globally operating with no incidents.

1. It did go boom. Unit 1 and Unit 3 both had explosions.


2. Impacts were not minor. A 20km evacuation zone was implemented. That zone still exists. 30,300 people still can't go back to where they live.

Reconstruction Agency

The government is spending 200 billion to clean up.

3. Chernobyl happened 38 years ago and yet it gets brought up every time there's Nucular talk.

4. Actually quite a few incidents happen.

List of nuclear power accidents by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Most just don't end up in Meltdowns.

 

[nut]

A day earlier, Bluescope manager Dave Scott said the opposite: “We will need large volumes of firmed, affordable, renewable energy. So, this (offshore wind farm) is a very important part of that mix. It’s a very important volume of renewable energy that will go towards supplying the energy that we need for decarbonisation.”

Is David Littleproud prepared to switch off rooftop solar to jam nuclear into the grid?

The Coalition says it wants nuclear and more rooftop solar. It can’t have both, so will it be reaching into the home to switch off your rooftop PV?

reneweconomy.com.au

 

[Ghost Patrol]

We are struggling to build houses, and can't even build a fast train.

And we are meant to believe that a Queensland policeman can build 7 nuclear power stations?

lol

 

[nut]

So the Commonwealth will own the reactors .
The states are going to love this.

 

[nut]

We are struggling to build houses, and can't even build a fast train.

And we are meant to believe that a Queensland policeman can build 7 nuclear power stations?

lol

2 in 10 years …

 

[QuietB]

They were in power for nine years?

Why now?

Because the Coal and Gas lobby told them too.

This is purely about stopping grid upgrades - and hence stopping investment in renewables - meaning gas and coal is all that is left.

That is all.

 

[nut]

Because the Coal and Gas lobby told them too.

This is purely about stopping grid upgrades - and hence stopping investment in renewables - meaning gas and coal is all that is left.

That is all.

Exactly … and they’ll blame the states for delays … the delays they want.

 

[Gough]

So the Commonwealth will own the reactors .
The states are going to love this.

The state controlling the means of production all sounds a bit dirty leftie to me.