Which team is "Austrlia's Team?"

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And to "blue" also means to fight. Something Carlton players do to each other effectively. :D
Another fine Aussie tradition.

Blue can also be slightly pornographic ... kind of describes how we feel with Juddy, Murph and Gibbsy running through the midfield. :eek:

Blue is also Aussie venacular for a bloke with red hair.

Carlton .... as Aussie as meat pies and ..... umm ... Souvlaki Hut.
 
Carlton would go close to matching the Cowboys in the eyes of most opposition supporters, I would think. Arrogance, reviled even when down and out in the cellar for years, born to rule mentality, chequebook recruiting

I couldn't help but notice that all of these traits seem to be shared by the Liberal party. I guess that goes a long way to explain why I hate them both with unrivaled passion.
 
Re: Which team is "Australia's Team?"

No "Australia's Team", especially when 2 of the 3 most populous states prefer another football code.

Their are parallels in the clubs though.
Collingwood and Carlton both remind me of the Dallas Cowboys and the Oakland Raiders.

Where Dallas and Collingwood are all bling with self proclaimed majesty.
The Collingwood fans resemble Oaklands Raider Nation, who are mental, toothless and have healthy support across the nation.

Carlton and Dallas have the Rich, cheating, arrogant crooks in Admin.
Carlton, like The Oakland Raiders on the field have a history of overstepping the rules.
Carlton like both Dallas and Oakland have been historically successful.

Essendon is like the Pittsburgh Steelers. Salt of the earth teams that have one of the largest supporter groups and like the Steeler Nation, the Essendon fans can be found all across Australia. Essendon fans waving their scarves at Ess vs WCE fixtures is not unlike the Steelers with teh terrible towl.

St Kilda is like the New Orleans Saints. Both good places to go for a drink. Teams have historically been poor but are currently in good shape.

The Western Bulldogs are like the Arizona Cardinals. Working class roots (Cards originally from Chicago's south), hard history of mediocrity, recently pushed for glory but yet to find it. New home facilities in the immediate past.

West Coast and the Washington Redskins. Both huge clubs with more regional support than nation wide. Wealthy and historically successful, currently average on the field.

Geelong are obviously Green Bay. Old clubs with proud traditions, safely secure in their leagues smallest markets. During the 90's I'd have compared Geelong to the Jim Kelly / Thurman Thomas' Buffalo Bills.

Adelaide Crows and the Denver Bronco's. More because of the 97/98 back to back but both huge clubs from mid sized markets. Both teams have historically had electrifying offences (Modra, Jarman, Burton) (Elway, Morton, Davis, Sharpe).

Melbourne Demons and the Detroit Lions. Useless, haven't won anything since JFK.

Fremantle and the Houston Texans. Have done nothing memorable but continue to erode the proud footballing history of their respective states.

Hawthorn and San Francisco 49ers, awesome in the 80's. or Hawthorn and the NY Giants, playing hardnose football while recently upsetting superior competition in the championship. (NY Giants beating the NEW England Patroits in the last 90 seconds of the superbowl 2 seasons ago to end the Pats perfect season). Hawthorn like these Franchises have healthy support and more premierships than most teams in the plast 30 years.

North Melbourne and the Jacksonville Jaguars. Smaller support base, can't sell out and talk by other around the league in moving them. In Jacksonville's case Los Angeles.

Richmond and the Philadelphia Eagles. Feral fans starved of ultimate glory. Melbourne has the big 4 and the NFL has the NFC East.

Port Power and NFL Europe/USFL/XFL

Sydney and Indianapolis Colts, relocated teams that have recently found a premiership after a couple decades of crap. Sydney and the chicago bears, have a large city to themselves and play hardnose football.

Brisbane and the Miami Dolphins. Humid.
 
Jebus, there's certainly some bias showing in the previous post :eek:

You've got to have had a much longer history to be "historically successful" for one thing :p

you mean Austria?
then i would take a guess and say Rapid Wien

It's Austria Wien actually ;)
 
The Demons would be more like the New York Jets over the last 4 decades or so I think.... last big achievement during the 60s, but plenty of playoff appearances from the 80s onwards, most recently in 2006 ;)

But also like the Chicago Bears (I think), we have the longest continuous history as a club (and a similar record of success through up to the 60s).
 
^ Or the Cleveland Browns, who last won a title in 1964 (like the Demons). The Browns played pretty good football in the 80's including a couple heart breaking defeats in the AFC championship game (Melbourne in the '87 prelim), final also in '94 and '02 (though Melbourne has done better then that) but the Baltimore Ravens are the Cleveland Browns prior to 97 and they've been very successful including a Superbowl win (Melbourne has the 2000 GF berth).

Jebus, there's certainly some bias showing in the previous post

You've got to have had a much longer history to be "historically successful" for one thing
ahaha, yeah, well as far as I'm concerned with West Coast, history is relative, 22 years is good enough for me. WCE and the Washington Redskins (Superbowl era) both have 3 championships from 5 appearances in the GF/SB.
 
^ Or the Cleveland Browns, who last won a title in 1964 (like the Demons). The Browns played pretty good football in the 80's including a couple heart breaking defeats in the AFC championship game (Melbourne in the '87 prelim), final also in '94 and '02 (though Melbourne has done better then that) but the Baltimore Ravens are the Cleveland Browns prior to 97 and they've been very successful including a Superbowl win (Melbourne has the 2000 GF berth).

Yeah, that's a pretty close comparison too I reckon :thumbsu:
 
NFL - Dallas Cowboys
NBA - Los Angeles Lakers
MLB - New York Yankees
NHL - Detroit Redwings (perhaps)
AFL - Collingwood
English football - Manchester United/Liverpool


In terms of brand recognition, i.e. even people with no interest in the sport have heard of the team, would it go a bit like this?
 
No AFL team could be called "Australia's Team" as we've only had a national competition for less than 20 years (if you could call it that with 10 of the 16 teams coming from one city).

From my perspective, the Socceroos (National Soccer Team) is the closest that we have to an all-encompassing National Team, and that is because just about all of our other successful national teams are "minority" sports from a global perspective (Netball, Cricket, Rugby Union, Rugby League), and our love affair with Basketball was more about Jordan than the game. Anecdotally, I have never seen the Australian population behind ONE team like they did for the FIFA World Cup (qualification and finals).

We also LOVE our Olympic teams, from a population of only 22 million people we are in the top 5 of the medal tally.
 
From my perspective, the Socceroos (National Soccer Team) is the closest that we have to an all-encompassing National Team, and that is because just about all of our other successful national teams are "minority" sports from a global perspective (Netball, Cricket, Rugby Union, Rugby League)

How is that relevant? Why does the popularity of the sport overseas change our true national team? The Australian cricket team shits all over the Socceroos (and the other teams you listed) in terms of national popularity. A few people jumping on a bandwagon every four years will never change that.

BTW, cricket is the 2nd most popular team sport in the world.
 

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Basketball & Rugby Union have far more interest worldwide than cricket.

Most Popular Sports

What are the most popular sports worldwide?
Football (Soccer) ranks at the top of a majority of the credible lists published.
Additional Answers
"Most popular" could mean "most watched", "most played" or "most revenue-generating."
Based on the variable definition of "most popular" the following observations apply:


  • The most played sport in the world is FOOTBALL.


  • Based on the number and size of stadiums around the world, the number of people who wear football merchandise, number of people who are aware of football, and the number of leagues/tournaments worldwide (The WORLD CUP, UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, THE SOUTH AMERICAN CUP, THE AMERICAN CUP, THE ASIAN CUP, 70 English league teams, 40 Italian league teams, 40 Spanish league teams) football ranks at the top of the list regardless the definition of "most popular".


  • Rugby is very popular in many former English colonies (with the noteable exception of the United States) and carries a large following, however participation rates fall below that of football.
Most Frequently Cited Ranked Lists
1) Football. 3.3-3.5 Billion Fans. (Europe, Africa, Asia, Americas,etc)
2) Cricket 2-3. Billion Fans. (India,U.K,Pakistan,Asia,Australia,etc)
3) Field Hockey. 2-2.2 Bilion Fans. (Asia, Europe, Africa, Australia)
4) Tennis. Around 1 Billion Fans. (Europe, Americas, Asia)
5) Volleyball Around 900 Million Fans. (Asia, Erope, Americas, Australia)
6) Table Tennis Around 900 Million Fans. (Asia, Europe, Africa, Americas)
7) Baseball Around 500 Million Fans. (U.S, Japan, Cuba, Dom rep)
8) Golf Around 400 Million Fans. (U.S, Canada, Europe)
9) Gridiron (american football) 390-410 Million Fans. (U.S mainly)
10) Basketball Not more than 400M Fans. (U.S, Canada mainly)


  1. Football
  2. Cricket
  3. Tennis
  4. Gymnastics
  5. Swimming
  6. Cycling
  7. Karate
  8. Basketball
  9. Field Hockey
  10. Baseball
I just got this from the Net so it must be true
 
Re: Which team is "Australia's Team?"

St Kilda is like the New Orleans Saints. Both good places to go for a drink. Teams have historically been poor but are currently in good shape.
St Kilda last won anything in 1966. New Orleans were awarded a licence in 1966 (a few weeks after St Kilda won the flag) and haven't won anything since.

Both teams have had their longest winning streaks in their history this year too.
 
Cricket in India is like a religion and has been for decades. A bit of recent Chinese basketball interest sparked by Yao doesn't compare.

China literally stops when Yao Ming is televised into the country, it's a major reason why the NBA pockets huge coin through it's television rights to China. The Basketball competition at the Olympics was the most watched of any event in China.

NBA/Basketball is more popular in China than Cricket is in India.
 
China literally stops when Yao Ming is televised into the country, it's a major reason why the NBA pockets huge coin through it's television rights to China. The Basketball competition at the Olympics was the most watched of any event in China.

NBA/Basketball is more popular in China than Cricket is in India.

Every basketball court in the city is always packed with Asians. I'm guessing most are Yao fans.
 

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