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No I’d still take Green or Rowell.
Opinion Who is the best young gun... Daicos, Green, Gulden, Rowell or Walsh?
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No I’d still take Green or Rowell.
An interesting stat was shown during Fremantle Gold Coast game.
Caleb Serong has had minimum 24 disposals in 42 consecutive games which is 3rd highest in history.
Caleb Serong has had minimum 24 disposals in 42 consecutive games which is 3rd highest in history.
Serong is an inside mid. So his possessions are earned the hard way with elite clearances numbers.
Gulden is doing better than Daycare but true champions bring something new to the game.
Daicos has brought the please-don't-tackle-me-handball into the sport of Australian Rules Football and the game is so much richer for it.
I reckon we are pretty damn lucky that they are all playing together
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1- Daicos
2- Gulden
3- Walsh
4- Green
5 - Rowell
I’d take Sam Darcy over them all for the future.
2- Gulden
3- Walsh
4- Green
5 - Rowell
I’d take Sam Darcy over them all for the future.
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Does noone take contested marks anymore ?!?!
In what world with those stats you are comparing, is Gulden doing better than Daicos?Gulden is doing better than Daycare but true champions bring something new to the game.
Daicos has brought the please-don't-tackle-me-handball into the sport of Australian Rules Football and the game is so much richer for it.
Daicos has more disposals, more tackles, nearly twice as many CP and twice clearances.
All with a higher DE% and from less game time.
I have seen you struggle before and make up ridiculous stats to try and improve your Dustbin argument but this time, you have seriously lost the plot.
I have seen in the rare normal posts that you produce, that you are far from a fool, so I don't understand your will to come across as one.
For the record, I would love to have either, because they are two future hall of fame stars, that we are lucky enough to be around to watch.
But just because one wears Black and White stripes, many will try and bring him down and take away from his brilliance.
Yet in 2024, Daicos averages more CP, so he also can get the ball that way and like their CP, their clearance numbers are similar also.
Both elite in this part of their game.
What sets them apart is that Daicos is elite (0.9) in Goals, where Serong is below average (0.1).
An outside player with lower disposal efficiency, less disposals and goals is doing better? Haha good one.Gulden is doing better than Daycare but true champions bring something new to the game.
Daicos has brought the please-don't-tackle-me-handball into the sport of Australian Rules Football and the game is so much richer for it.
He also attends 12 more center bounces per game than Gulden.
Gulden is clearly more damaging with the ball.
He moves it 25% further per possession, has more goal assists, more score involvements etc.
The differences in the contested possessions are all ground balls, which is where Daicos is king. A loose ground ball get is a contested possession. It's also understanding where Daicos plays vs Gulden.
Gulden is often lining up on the wing or half forward for half of the restarts. Daicos' CBA are 71%, which is pretty much the definition of a center square midfielder who isn't a ruckman.
Wouldn’t bother engaging with someone who just constantly makes stupid, patently false posts. He’s Richmond’s equivalent of Fitzey and Christian Boy. He obviously knows nothing about Football, and is a troll. Absolute waste of space.
Daicos has a better DE% and is elite on effective disposal, so how can you say Errol is more damaging with the ball.
The fact that one runs around loose on a wing, whilst the other plays in the middle (usually with a caravan attached) is a tad different.
I would rather compare Errol to the other Daicos Josh. At least they play the same position.
He's not loose on the wing. Not that that matters anyway.
He's got a 30% CP ratio, which is fine for his role.
You really need to understand how CP's are calculated. You see Daicos' contested possession numbers and probably think he's Matt Rowell.
He's not.
There's lots of ways to earn contested possessions, in Daicos' case, he's the king of ground ball and loose ball gets. Which are contested possessions.
Gulden is more impactful per disposal. He gains a hell of a lot more territory per possession, he puts it inside 50 more per game, his disposals end in more goals and more scores per game and he does it from less possessions in total, which only amplifies this ratio of impact per disposal.
How in the hell are you determinating Daicos is more impactful per disposal? DE%? lol
Daicos certainly wins more of the ball and is better at winning those disposals himself, Gulden is absolutely better and more damaging once he has the ball.
So it's really a discussion on what you prefer?
Do you prefer the player that is slightly better at winning the ball and gets it more by extension, or the player that is more damaging once they have it, but might get it slightly less, because they aren't as good winning it in the first place?
You are splitting hairs regardless.
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He only has lower disposal efficiency because he does not handball as much and usually goes for fairly high risk high reward kicks. Rarely goes for the cheap disposals that look good on a stats sheet but does not really achieve anything
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Daicos
Gulden
Then the next three.
Gulden
Then the next three.
I would rather the player that can do both.
Daicos gets twice as many clearances as Gulden, so without Errol having someone to pass it to him when he is free and in space, he would have it far less.
If Nick was to play that free running wingman, with no-one on him and gets the ball in space, with his sublime kicking skills, he would tear the game apart.
Even more than he does now.
Hence why he gets tagged each week. Errol doesn't get tagged, so he can do what he pleases. He is lucky, his team has other players that teams are more concerned about.
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