Coach Who should be our next coach?

[Lore]

Spoiler: Timeline and reported candidates

15/8 Board toppled (reportedly will pursue Clarkson)
19/8 Alastair Clarkson to join North
21/8 Ben Rutten

Ben Rutten

Age

41

Ht

190cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.4

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

10.6

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.0

3star

sacked
22/8 Coach selection sub-committee to be established to find a replacement
26/8 Committee members announced: Josh Mahoney

Josh Mahoney

Age

46

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.9

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

(GM-Footy, chair), Dorothy Hisgrove (Board member), Andrew Thorburn, Simone McKinnis, Robert Walls, Jordan Lewis

Jordan Lewis

Age

38

Ht

186cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

11.5

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

2.7

4star

MG

310.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

15.0

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.8

5star

7/9 James Hird, Dean Solomon

Dean Solomon

Age

44

Ht

189cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.5

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

3.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

17.6

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

6.2

5star

T

2.8

5star

, Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

, Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

interviewed at EY
13/9 Daniel Giansiracusa

Daniel Giansiracusa

Age

42

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.6

4star

K

11.0

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.2

4star

No current season stats available

D

10.2

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.0

4star

reportedly interviewed
17/9 Don Pyke “not pursuing that at this stage”
21/9 Brad Scott contacted by the club but won’t make a decision on whether to pursue the role until after the Grand Final
21/9 Adem Yze

Adem Yze

Age

47

Ht

187cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

5.2

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

1.8

2star

M

0.6

1star

T

0.6

3star

has second interview and tours the training facilities at Tullamarine
22/9 Blake Caracella

Blake Caracella

Age

47

Ht

186cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.6

3star

will put his hat in the ring
27/9 Brendon Lade

Brendon Lade

Age

48

Ht

199cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.4

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

4.0

3star

HO

15.1

5star

No current season stats available

D

11.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.4

4star

HO

9.6

5star

appointed as assistant coach at the Western Bulldogs, out of the running for Essendon job
28/9 Brad Scott to be interviewed on Thursday
29/9

 

[Vander18]

Rob Harvey is interesting
Would think he'd have the experience now.

Collingwood system has both produced longmuir and had mcrae step in and go from 17th to a prelim, and he spent a good part of his coaching career there. Also spent 2 years working with Lyon during the saints best years in decades.

Has done the head coach thing as caretaker including half a season with the pies last year.

Given his playing profile, his age and his time in the system….find it hard not to conclude there is a reason he’s not a head coach.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Given his playing profile, his age and his time in the system….find it hard not to conclude there is a reason he’s not a head coach.

One of my favourite players and while I wouldn't know it's hard not to think the same.

 

[faible]

The AFL don't have the right to rubber stamp a coaching appointment, but as with most things it's advisable for them to tacitly approve of it.

They’d love it. Imagine the media clicks.

 

[Vander18]

I reckon Brad Scott will emerge as a possibility.

Like his brother he is just a psychopathic competitor first and foremost. Playing best scratches that itch but coaching is next best when you can’t play any longer. Administration doesn’t cut it at all.

Throw in a pay rise (I’m guessing) and I’m just struggling to believe he’d prefer to continue pencil pushing at AFL House.

 

[Lore]

They’d love it. Imagine the media clicks.

disrepute

 

[bomberlegend2007]

**** me, interviewing Solomon just shows how Essendon we are.

I would hazard a guess he would not get even interview at any other head coaching job.

 

[eth-dog]

* me, interviewing Solomon just shows how Essendon we are.

I would hazard a guess he would not get even interview at any other assistant coaching job.

FTFY

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

I reckon Brad Scott will emerge as a possibility.

Like his brother he is just a psychopathic competitor first and foremost. Playing best scratches that itch but coaching is next best when you can’t play any longer. Administration doesn’t cut it at all.

Throw in a pay rise (I’m guessing) and I’m just struggling to believe he’d prefer to continue pencil pushing at AFL House.

Of the possibilities Scott is the one I think I'd like most so I hope you're right. I think he was underrated at Roos.

 

[Vander18]

One of my favourite players and while I wouldn't know it's hard not to think the same.

What a player he was.

* me, interviewing Solomon just shows how Essendon we are.

I would hazard a guess he would not get even interview at any other head coaching job.

If it helps him out by giving him experience with a process and boosting his profile….why not help an EFC premiership player?

Just don’t give him the job!

 

[fairbump_playon]

I reckon Brad Scott will emerge as a possibility.

Like his brother he is just a psychopathic competitor first and foremost. Playing best scratches that itch but coaching is next best when you can’t play any longer. Administration doesn’t cut it at all.

Throw in a pay rise (I’m guessing) and I’m just struggling to believe he’d prefer to continue pencil pushing at AFL House.

I knew them a bit around the time they were reunited at Brisbane in 97/98

Can confirm they were both psychopathic competitors even then

 

[Westlo]

He has coached. He doesn't need experience in a lesser role. I'm sorry but I'm running short of patience on this, it is completely non-sensical.

Was carried by premiership coach Bomber Thomson, side developed by the guy who built the foundation for a Bulldogs premiership and with another assistant who went on to win the Demons their flag.

It's okay, Solly will help out Hird this time, he has a fantastic record as GC defensive coach throws up

 

[eighties_bomber]

Embarrassing that Hird is even a possibility and a reflection on how broken and dysfunctional this once great club has become

 

[fairbump_playon]

He has coached. He doesn't need experience in a lesser role. I'm sorry but I'm running short of patience on this, it is completely non-sensical.

In his first 3 years he had a record of 11.5, 11 and 14 wins. 2015, which was on track collapsed once WADA announced its appeal. If this wasn't the belief he wouldn't have been asked to interview.

If you think he needs to do a new apprenticeship say what it is you think he will gain from it. I've read nothing that isn't just saying he needs to earn the right again. What the hell does that have to do with whether he can sell a message to players next year?

The mistake people makes is thinking that football is different.

This whole thing is hung up on tactics and being in a system for the sake of it. If his presentation is contemporary, because he's takes the 2 hours it would take him to get up to speed with the current tactics, all that matters is whether he can sell the panel on implementation.

If Yze and Hird make an equivalent substantive presentation it would the height of stupidity to select Yze over Hird because Hird is not just an experienced senior coach he has implemented successfully.

I totally agree with what you have written above and I don't really see anyone refuting it effectively.

I wasn't in Melbourne during ASADA but from a distance it seems like the experience was way more traumatic for those in the traditional AFL states than it was here in the outposts. Co-workers, footy media, radio, news, family, friends, all going nuts?

But now a lot of things are being said in the media and here that defy logic. The only thing that makes sense is that a lot of old intense feelings are coming up and clouding the debate. Fear of copping crap from strangers seems to be the big one.

Re the lack of recent assistant roles... yep, that could cost him the job. But he has senior experience that others don't. All candidates have different kinds of imperfect experience.. none are Clarkson or Hardwick. So all comes down to what happens in the interview room - as it should.

People saying "well if Hird.. then why not Sheedy.." .. that's a false equivalence to score points. One is a razor sharp 49 year old and the other is suitable for pipe and slippers and not much else.

 

[FrankGrimes]

Merrett said today hird being coach isn’t the right path, not a very ringing endorsement for old mate jimmy..

 

[The Prosecutor]

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[Zach Package]

The irony of Hird potentially coming back into the coaching role just as we potentially excise the last of the 34 (Heppell) off the list and finally reach fresh air is not lost on me.

It’s what we’ve apparently always wanted but we’re electing not to move forward.

 

[Old Campaigner]

Surely Jaymie Graham

Jaymie Graham

Age

41

Ht

196cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.2

3star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

4.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

0.4

3star

would be on the short list

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Has he applied for the job?

 

[The Prosecutor]

I mean, you would think someone would maybe consult the leadership group and gauge their thoughts on Hird coming back?

Then again, communicating with relevant stakeholders doesn't seem to be Barham's strong suit.

 

[Atavistic]

Imagine if we got Hird as coach now. What's Zach going to say then? "I meant to say it IS the path. It's the ONLY path. Yay Hirdy."

 

[Albertross]

Merrett said today hird being coach isn’t the right path, not a very ringing endorsement for old mate jimmy..

The board didn't care what the players thought of Truck, so his opinion should be noted, but not taken into consideration, regardless of who the coach is.

 

[The Prosecutor]

The board didn't care what the players thought of Truck, so his opinion should be noted, but not taken into consideration, regardless of who the coach is.

Barham has already acknowledged that this was an error.

 

[footyfanatic111]

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Jesus. Wonder what all the hird worshippers will say when Merrett request a trade after seeing hird appointed as coach. A few will change their tune - was it really worth it?


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[Albertross]

I mean, you would think someone would maybe consult the leadership group and gauge their thoughts on Hird coming back?

Then again, communicating with relevant stakeholders doesn't seem to be Barham's strong suit.

Do you think they should consult the playing group about everyone interviewed? Or just Hird?

 

[Old Campaigner]

Lol. Assistant coaches who have never coached senior afl footy before saying no..

Are we that much of a basket case or is that a silly decision by them that they may regret?


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Because Hird is going to be looming large over anyone we appoint as coach. Not because he's good but because a bunch of nuffs have got it into their heads that he's still the golden child and will move heaven and earth to get him back into the role.

I don't particularly like it but if good candidates are refusing to even apply for the role we might need to get Hird in just so it can all be burnt to the ground when he ushers in 5 more years of mediocrity and finally discredits the power brokers and sheedy-ites.

 

[CBombers17]

I knew them a bit around the time they were reunited at Brisbane in 97/98

Can confirm they were both psychopathic competitors even then

Dobber and Dobbers brother Dobber?